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Webheads chat logs from January 20, 2002

Meet the people in the chat today

UAE

Puerto Rico

Venezuela

Pennsylvania

Wisconsin

Argentina

Ireland

Canada

Illinois

Germany

Taiwan

Australia

Italy

China

and Webheads and visitors to Tapped In Shun in Japan, MdA in India, Lev in Israel, KeniK from Hubei province in China, and ...

New Jersey

My own experience with today's chaos navigation was complicated by having lost my connection three times during the evening - each time, neither of my browsers could recover Tapped In and each time, I had to restart my computer. Plus, Yahoo voice chat was not working properly - two of us were able to talk to one another, but the third person in a group voice chat could neither hear not speak to the others.

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Connected to TAPPED IN on Sun Jan 20 03:31:37 2002 PST.
JohnSte teleports to the reception.
Started recording in Reception (#268)[TappedIn] at Sun Jan 20 03:37:18 2002 PST.

JohnSte says, "hi, all,"

Dafne [guest] smile, thank you

BJB says, "what university are you affiliated with, Dafne...or maybe you want to put webheads"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves to John. Good morning

JohnSte says, "Morning, BJ, Dafne."

BJB asks, "were you talking to anyone on IM, John?"

BJB . o O ( I saw a bunch of webheads logging on and off )

Dafne [guest] says, "Hi, John"

DanB says, "Hi, John."

DavidW [up'n'down] waves to DanB.

JohnSte says, "About an hour ago, I was talking to Vance."

DavidW [up'n'down] waves to JohnSte [Webhead].

JohnSte says, "Hi, Dan, David."

DanB asks, "Hey, David. Soccer later?"

DavidW [to BJB]: "Not much snow at all. Crunchy, though"

DavidW [to DanB]: "I'm afraid there may be too much snow for soccer this morning."

BJB [HelpDesk] nods to David

DanB [to BJB]: "Logging on and off is what Webheads do best!"

BJB [HelpDesk] grins...yep! Chaos navigation

DanB [to DavidW]: "Oh, I thought the snow was north of you."

DavidW [to DanB]: "We got about 3 inches, BJ got more, i think. North was supposed to get less than, New York City, for example, but don't know."

BJB says, "we got about 6 inches."

JohnSte says, "I'm heading back to PA Tuesday."

DavidW says, "It's supposed to be sunny and above freezing today and a lot of this may melt."

BJB says, "you shouldn't have any travel problems with the weather, John"

Dafne [guest] [to BJB]: "I have jut submitted the membership form"

BJB [HelpDesk] cheers for Dafne

JohnSte says, "I know. I've been checking the weather."

Dafne [guest] smiles

BJB says, "welcome to the community, Dafne"

JohnSte says, "Yep."

BJB says, "your member name is DafneG"

Dafne [guest] says, "thanks"

DavidW [to BJB]: "What, she didn't know that?"

JohnSte says, "That's quick service."

DavidW [up'n'down] grins at BJB [HelpDesk].

BJB [to Dafne [guest]]: "I can give you a password so you can log in as a member for the webheads meeting if you want"

Dafne [guest] says, "No, I didn't know because I got a mail but haven't read it yet"

BJB [to Dafne [guest]]: "if you whisper a password to me, I can set your password"

BJB says, "to whisper type /wh bjb newpasswordyouwant"

JohnSte says, "Just don't say it out loud."

BJB . o O ( or you can open your email and use the computer generated password )

BJB says, "done"

DavidW looks away.

BJB [to Dafne [guest]]: "you can now log out as a guest and then log back in with DafneG and your password"

Dafne [guest] says, "that was fast"

DavidW exclaims, "She is fast!"

BJB [HelpDesk] smirks

BJB exclaims, "I am cyberwoman after all, David!"

JohnSte says, "Faster than a webhead's disconnect."

Dafne [guest] says, "I'm gonna try right now"

DavidW [to BJB]: "I know that."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_71 [guest] has disconnected.

DafneG has connected.

JohnSte says, "zzzzzzz"

BJB [HelpDesk] cheers...welcome, Dafne!

DafneG says, "I'm back"

DanB says, "Hello, DafneG. Welcome back."

JohnSte says, "Welcome back, Dafne."

BJB [to DafneG]: "you now have a personal recorder so you will get a transcript of the dialogue when you log out"

DafneG says, "That's great."

DafneG says, "Yesterday, Vance sent me the transcript of our conversation"

BJB says, "yep, it's particularly useful if you miss any of the urls"

BJB says, "that was nice of him"

JohnSte says, "He's like that."

BJB says, "it's also handy if you are meeting with a class and want to review what was discussed"

DafneG says, "I was very lucky to find you and Vance in my first visit"

BJB [HelpDesk] agrees with John

RitaZ has connected.

BJB exclaims, "Hi, Rita!"

DanB says, "Hello, Rita."

RitaZ says, "Morning, BJ"

DafneG says, "Hi, Rita"

RitaZ says, "Hi, Dafne"

JohnSte says, "Hi, Rita."

BJB says, "looks like we're going to have to do a round of introductions today"

DanB says, "Good idea, BJ."

RitaZ says, "Hi, John"

BJB says, "to welcome our new member, Dafne, to the TAPPED IN community"

DanB projects Intro.

---------------
Hello, my name is Dan Bilitz. I'm an Assistant Professor at Wisconsin Lutheran College (Milwaukee), teaching marketing and management courses. My research interests focus on undergraduate business education, and the role that technology can play in the educational process.
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DafneG [to Rita,]: "Are you in Argentina at the moment?"

RitaZ says, "yes :("

DafneG says, "Hi, Dan"

DafneG asks, "in Buenos Aires?"

DanB [to DafneG]: "Hello"

RitaZ says, "no, Rosario, 2nd biggest city"

DanB looks Away.

JohnSte says, "I'm John Steele. I'm a full professor at the University of Puerto Rico at Aguadilla where I teach ESL and teacher education classes. I am also a PhD student at Indiana Univerity of Pennsylvania."

BJB [to DafneG]: "we'll have to teach you how to edit your member profile so that when people click on your icon they can find out more about you"

DafneG says, "I've seen Dan and Rita's pictures on the Webheads Community page"

JohnSte says, "And probably mine, too."

RitaZ [to DafneG]: "How are things in Venezuela?"

DafneG to BJB how's that?

BJB [to DafneG]: "click on your icon and then click on EDIT"

DafneG [to Rita,]: "not very good either, but I am in Spain at the moment."

JohnSte says, "Here comes Vance."

RitaZ [to DafneG]: "Living in Spain?"

DafneG says, "Yes, I am in VAlencia"

DanB says, "I'll be right back; need to check something in my office."

DanB goes home.

RitaZ [to DafneG]: "working as a EFL teacher?"

DafneG [to Rita,]: "no I am working on my doctoral dissertation"

RitaZ [to DafneG]: "what subject ?"

JohnSte says, "So am I, Dafne."

VanceS has arrived.
VanceSrecorder follows VanceS to here.

JohnSte says, "Hi, Vance."

DafneG says, "The evaluation of ESP with the use of electronic supports"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves good day to Vance

VanceS [friendly] lands kersplat

ArthurM has connected.

VanceS says, "whew! Hi everyone."

DafneG says, "Hi, again, Vance"

JohnSte asks, "sounds interesting, Dafne. How is it going?"

RitaZ [to DafneG]: "that's great!"

BJB says, "hi, Arthur"

VanceS [friendly] waves BJB [HelpDesk], DavidW [away], JohnSte [Webhead], DafneG, RitaZ, and ArthurM.

DafneG says, "just starting"

Azzam has connected.

VanceS says, "Hi Arthur, I saw you multitasking around the room."

DanB has arrived.
Seeing Eye follows DanB to here.

VanceS says, "Hi Rita and Dafne"

DafneG says, "I am developing a unit on the Modernist Style Architecture of VAlencia buildlings"

VanceS says, "nice to see you both again."

ArthurM says, "good afternoon, all"

RitaZ says, "Hi, Vance"

GaryCz has connected.

DanB says, "Hi, Vance."

Azzam [guest] says, "i Vance"

JohnSte says, "Morning, Arthur."

VanceS says, "Hi Azzam"

DanB says, "Hello, Azzam and Gary"

VanceS says, "and hi Gary"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves hi to Gary

BJB [HelpDesk] waves to Azzam

You hear a quiet popping sound; GaryCz has lost his link.

JohnSte says, "Hi, Azzam, Gary, Anyone else I have missed."

DafneG waves to everybody

MargaretD arrives from nowhere.
MargaretD's personal recorder follows MargaretD to here.

DanB says, "Hello, Margaret."

JohnSte says, "Hi, Maggi."

BJB says, "good day, Maggi"

ShunI has arrived.
Shun's Recorder follows ShunI to here.

MargaretD says, "Hi everyone"

DanB says, "Hello, Shun."

JohnSte says, "Morning, Shun."

VanceS [friendly] bows BJB [HelpDesk], DavidW [away], JohnSte [Webhead], DafneG, RitaZ, ArthurM, Azzam [guest], DanB, MargaretD, and ShunI.

ShunI says, "Hello, Dan"

BJB [HelpDesk] bows to Shun

ShunI says, "Hi, BJ, Vance."

VanceS exclaims, "hi everyone, what a crowd!"

DafneG says, "Hello Shun"

DanB [to ShunI]: "Is your term finished yet?"

ShunI says, "Hi, Dafne."

GaryCz has connected.

Azzam [guest] says, "It's my first time here, so I hope if you don't mind if I lurk for a while."

BJB says, "wb, Gary"

DanB says, "Welcome back, Gary."

ShunI says, "One more Tuesday."

DavidW [away] waves.

BJB [HelpDesk] nods to Azzam. Holler if you have any questions

VanceS says, "and Hi David (how far away are you?)"

VanceS asks, "Is this Azzam_p by any chance?"

DavidW [to VanceS]: "I'm in snowy New Jersey at the moment, with a warm cinammon-raisin bagel in my tummy."

Azzam [guest] says, "yes, it is"

VanceS says, "Pleased to meet you"

Azzam [guest] says, "Azzam is my first name"

GaryCz asks, "Is there a voice chat happening at the same time on Yahoo?"

DavidW [to Azzam [guest]]: "Hello. I'm David Weksler"

VanceS [to GaryCz]: "most of us just got here, so we haven't started Yahoo yet"

DavidW exclaims, "Oh, thank goodness!"

DavidW grins.

GaryCz asks, "Do things like this happen in languages other than English?"

VanceS asks, "that's a good question. I think so. I don't know about at Tapped In though, do you BJB?"

DafneG says, "No, that I know"

RitaZ [to Gary]: "don't think so"

DavidW says, "No doubt, I would guess."

VanceS says, "There are french and spanish virtual communities in Active Worlds and there used to be at the Palace"

DavidW says, "Maybe I'm wrong."

BJB says, "kind of hard in this environment, Gary, because TI is a modified MOO and doesn't handle the encription of accents and other characters"

MdA has connected.

RitaZ says, "the power of English...;)"

JohnSte says, "Maybe in Japanese."

DavidW . o O ( umlaut )

DanB says, "Hello, MdA."

DavidW says, "There are interesting bboks about Japanese Information Processing and the challenges of dealing with Kanji"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ArthurM has lost his link.

BJB [HelpDesk] waves to Md

DavidW [to MdA]: "Hi"

VanceS asks, "Hi MdA. How's Hyderabad today?"

MdA says, "hai.good day"

GaryCz says, "I'm interested in developing bilingual language exchange communities where people can learn each others' languages."

JohnSte says, "Hello, MdA."

MdA says, "hyderabad is well today"

JohnSte says, "I think I read your email about that this morning, Gary."

DafneG says, "I read it too"

RitaZ says, "so did I"

MdA [to VanceS]: "how are the things at germany"

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "That's quite a compelling idea."

MdA [to DavidW]: "how you are doing"

BJB says, "there is an asynch forum/bulletin board at Phil Benz's VIV@, Gary"

DavidW [to MdA]: "I'm well and you?"

GaryCz says, "I think it has lots of promise for speakers of at least the languages that English-speakers like to learn, like Spanish, French, German."

BJB says, "they do use some different languages there"

DavidW agrees with GaryCz.

MdA says, "i'am fine"

DavidW nods to MdA.

BJB [to Gary]: "are you familiar with VIV@?"

GaryCz says, "No (how do you direct answers at people?)"

BJB [to Gary]: "type /to name blah blah"

BJB [to Gary]: "are you familiar with url projections?"

JohnSte [to Name]: "blah blah"

DavidW [to BJB]: "blah, blah or blah, blah, blah?"

DavidW smiles.

DavidW . o O ( Sorry )

BJB [HelpDesk] grins...John, you are so literal!

BJB [HelpDesk] smirks at David

DavidW starts giggling.

JohnSte says, "Of course. At this hour of the morning. . ."

DavidW . o O ( Oh, man. )

GaryCz says, "I'm not familiar with URL projections."

DavidW hands JohnSte [Webhead] some hot beverage of his choice.

BJB [HelpDesk] hopes we haven't confused Gary...or anyone else

DavidW looks quiet.

JohnSte says, "Thanks, David. I needed that."

BJB [to Gary]: "I'm going to show you a url. When I do, a new browser window will pop open for you"

DavidW [quiet] smiles and continue giggling.

BJB [to Gary]: "you can look, bookmark and close...come back to this window when you're ready, ok?"

GaryCz exclaims, "Just what I need, a new browser window!"

DavidW [quiet] prepares for projection.

BJB [HelpDesk] shows GaryCz the URL: http://www.ardecol.ac-grenoble.fr/viva/index.htm

BJB [HelpDesk] didn't project to the whole group because it bumps some people out of TI

RitaZ [to Gary]: "relax and enjoy..."

DafneG says, "I am ready for tapas at this time"

GaryCz says, "I got the window. I will check it out. Thanks."

BJB [to DafneG]: "would you like to see the site? It might be of interest to your architecture students"

BJB [HelpDesk] sits on her hands and lets Vance lead his group

You hear a quiet popping sound; GaryCz has lost his link.

BJB . o O ( sorry )

DavidW exclaims, "Zap!"

DafneG [to BJB]: "I have it in my favorites, I visit it very frequently"

BJB [HelpDesk] Nods to Dafne. Phil Benz is the leader of the Euro Lang group and the creator of VIV@

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [friendly] has lost his link.

DavidW says, "I've never seen ViV@ - looks cool."

BJB says, "oops...vance must be chao navigating again"

DavidW . o O ( like Phil himself. )

BJB [HelpDesk] agrees with David

DavidW . o O ( Yup )

GaryCz has connected.

BJB says, "wb, Gary"

RitaZ [to BJ]: "I've learnt to "backflip", new term to me. And the site is good , I just knew how to bookmark and use favourites"

GaryCz says, "I've been disconnected twice. Already somebody doesn't like me."

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "We like you, Gary"

BJB drops 2002/01/20 WebHeads (recording).

GaryCz asks, "Are these chats archived?"

RitaZ [to Gary]: "yes, your humor is fun"

DavidW . o O ( Scared now, huh? )

DafneG says, "I am trying to whisper but I can't"

DavidW [to DafneG]: "Type: /wh DavidW somthing"

BJB [to Rita]: "Backflip's greatest asset is that your urls are stored on a server so you can access them from any computer and you don't lose them if your computer crashes"

Azzam [guest] smiles quietly

GaryCz [to Azzam [guest]]: "How does the computer know you are smiling?"

RitaZ [to BJ]: "yes! that's why I find it interesting to know"

RitaZ says, "I've already exported mine"

BJB [to Gary]: "yes, these chats are archived. Vance puts them on the webheads page and they are stored in his office"

Azzam [guest] [to <Gary>]: "<sometimes you just know :)>"

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "You can "emote" here. Try typing the following: /:smiles"

You hear a quiet popping sound; GaryCz has lost his link.

Azzam [guest] smiles

DavidW says, "Somebody doesn't like him, his ISP, I fear."

BJB says, "oops"

JohnSte says, "Vance says to sya Hi to everyone for him. He is on his LAN machine."

Lev has connected.

DavidW . o O ( his LAN machine as opposed to...? )

DanB says, "Hello, Lev."

DavidW [quiet] waves to Lev [guest].

BJB says, "Vance is going to try a restart of his computer so he can get a better TI connection"

MdA [to Azam]: "welcome to tapped in"

BJB [HelpDesk] welcomes Lev

BJB asks, "can we help you with something, Lev?"

Lev [guest] says, "thanx people it's my first time here tho' I've heard a lot abt u."

DavidW . o O ( Uh-oh! )

DavidW [to Lev [guest]]: "Hi. I'm David Weksler."

JohnSte [Webhead] cringesses.

BJB [to Lev [guest]]: "are you here for the WebHeads discussion or to visit TAPPED IN?"

Azzam [guest] [to MdA]: "thanks"

GaryCz has connected.

Lev [guest] says, "in fact I'd like to lurk a bit to get an idea what the WebHeads is abt, if u don't mind"

BJB [HelpDesk] hangs on to Gary...are you on AOL, Gary?

DanB says, "Welcome back again, Gary."

BJB . o O ( or do you have a firewall/proxy issue? )

MdA says, "where from you are azzam"

BJB [HelpDesk] peruses Membership Directory...

GaryCz asks, "Is a text client more reliable than the Tapestry connection?"

DavidW [to BJB]: "He has cows on campus in Urbana-Champaign, Illinois!"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_24 [guest] has disconnected.

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "Yes, it may be. What browser are you using?"

DavidW . o O ( type and version # )

GaryCz [to DavidW]: "I am using Internet Explorer 5 on a Mac."

MdA [to Azzam]: "here the peoples are humble.they will listen to you talk to you in a poliye manner"

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "That's usually pretty good. Are you dial-up or on campus?"

Azzam has connected.

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "What do you teach at UIUC?"

GaryCz [to DavidW]: "I am using a cable modem from home and a wireless Airport connection from my laptop to my G$."

BJB says, "wb, Azzam"

Azzam [guest] [to BJB]: "thanks"

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "Sounds pretty good to me. Hard to pinpoint it exactly, but in my expereince a JAVA applet is more "iffy" than a text client."

Azzam [guest] [to MdA]: "sorry about dissappearing on you"

GaryCz [to DavidW]: "I teach a statistics course and a child language course. But my main interest now is using technology to learn languages."

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "Do you know Jim Levin, in Education?"

BJB [to Gary]: "you might just want to do a restart of your machine. If that doesn't help, then take a look at the faq page for info about downloading the text client sofware"

DavidW . o O ( at UIUC )

Azzam [guest] [to MdA]: "to answer your question, i'm canadian currently studying in Manchester, Britain"

DavidW [to Azzam [guest]]: "Manchester United or City?"

GaryCz [to DavidW]: "Yes, I know Jim quite well. We are in the same dept."

Azzam [guest] [to MdA]: "what about you?"

You hear a quiet popping sound; GaryCz has lost his link.

BJB [to Lev [guest]]: "can you tell the group where you are located?"

BJB . o O ( we are a rather international bunch )

Azzam [guest] [to DavidW]: "ha, ha - university, unfortunately"

Lev [guest] says, "I'm in Israel"

DavidW says, "Rats! Gary's having a tough time."

DavidW [to Azzam [guest]]: "I know, but which soccer team?"

DavidW [to Lev [guest]]: "Shalom!"

Lev [guest] says, "u2"

DavidW [quiet] grins.

VanceS has arrived.
VanceSrecorder follows VanceS to here.

VanceS says, "ta DA"

BJB [HelpDesk] cheers for Vance

Azzam [guest] [to DavidW]: "i live near Man city, so I should be their fan"

JohnSte [Webhead] applauds.

VanceS looks just mugged by a band of cybergypsies.

BJB [to Lev [guest]]: "are you a teacher?"

Lev [guest] says, "y"

DavidW [to Azzam [guest]]: "I lived in LOndon when I was 8. England had just won the World Cup and George Best and Bobby Charlton played for Manchester United. Best was a magical player"

VanceS exclaims, "boy, it's tuff out there!"

DavidW [to VanceS]: "Sand storms?"

JohnSte asks, "Byte storms?"

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

Azzam [guest] [to DavidW]: "cool! i don't really follow football much, if must know the truth"

RitaZ [to Lev [guest]]: "where do you live in Israel?"

VanceS [just mugged by a band of cybergypsies] counts noses BJB [HelpDesk], DavidW [quiet], JohnSte [Webhead], DafneG, RitaZ, DanB, MargaretD, ShunI, MdA, Lev [guest], and Azzam [guest].

DavidW [to Azzam [guest]]: "Not a problem."

VanceS says, "Hi Lev. I see you made it."

Lev [guest] says, "Ashkelon - 50 km southo of Tel aviv"

Lev [guest] exclaims, "yeah, Vance - and it looks like you're quite a busy nunch here!"

DavidW . o O ( busy nunch? )

Lev [guest] says, "bunch, I mean"

GaryCz has connected.

VanceS . o O ( david quiet?? )

RitaZ [to Lev [guest]]: "been there nice place"

DavidW [quiet] holds his breath for GaryCz.

VanceS asks, "Yaodong, ca va?"

BJB [to Gary]: "did you do a restart?"

Lev [guest] says, "thanx - I like it here 2"

GaryCz [to BJB]: "No, didn't restart. Will next time I get bumped."

VanceS says, "I've been there too believe it or not"

BJB [HelpDesk] nods

DavidW [to VanceS]: "We believe it."

Lev [guest] asks, "been where? IN ashkelon, Vance?"

VanceS asks, "I had to restart. Are you having connections problems too, Gary?"

VanceS [to Lev [guest]]: "Yeah, in my wild impetuous youth"

DavidW [quiet] grins.

GaryCz says, "No connection problems. I think it's Java/Browswer problems"

DavidW [quiet] imagines VanceS [just mugged by a band of cybergypsies] as impetuous youth.

BJB . o O ( as opposed to his wild impetuous old age? )

VanceS [to GaryCz]: "I tried to reach you on Yahoo a minute ago"

You hear a quiet popping sound; GaryCz has lost his link.

VanceS says, "uh oh"

DavidW says, "Not his day."

VanceS says, "let's see if I can get him on Yahoo"

VanceS exclaims, "maybe we can at least TALK!"

DavidW . o O ( TAWK! )

ying has connected.

VanceS . o O ( quiet David! )

BJB [HelpDesk] welcome, Ying

JohnSte says, "Hi, Ying."

MargaretD exclaims, "Hi ying!"

VanceS says, "Hi Ying Lan"

DavidW [quiet] bows humbly to VanceS [just mugged by a band of cybergypsies].

MargaretD asks, "packed?"

Azzam [guest] . o O ( <this is wild!)

ying [guest] says, "NOt yet.. I was very busy last week."

VanceS exclaims, "Ying Lan, are you still leaving in 5 days?!!"

JohnSte asks, "Have a place to stay, Ying?"

DavidW [to Azzam [guest]]: "It's fun, that's for sure."

DanB says, "Hello, Ying."

ying [guest] says, "Yes... My company has ordered the ticket for me."

VanceS says, "wow"

DavidW says, "Even better"

JohnSte says, "I'll be packing tonight."

ying [guest] says, "On Jan. 25 will land at JKF at 6.30 pm there."

DafneG [to BJB]: "how do you copy and paste here"

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "Good and safe travels"

VanceS holds up a BIG sign:

Ying Lan is leaving for New York in 5 days!

ying [guest] says, "got it."

DavidW asks, "Does he need to be picked up at Kennedy airport?"

DavidW . o O ( I was just there yesterday )

VanceS [to DafneG]: "use the pasteboard at the top of the screen"

ying [guest] says, "My classmate asked me to go out for having lunch with her family today."

BJB [to DafneG]: "click on PASTEBOARD and then append to pasteboard. You have to use the keyboard command of control C to copy. To paste use control V"

RitaZ asks, "to Ying where are you at the moment?"

ying [guest] says, "It took 2 hours to get a specail restaurant in the mountains."

DavidW says, "Sounds good"

ying [guest] says, "At my present house as usual."

DafneG [to VanceS]: "thank you"

JohnSte asks, "What did you have, Ying?"

ying [guest] says, "parent's house,..."

ying [guest] asks, "you mean.. lunch?"

JohnSte says, "Yes."

Azzam [guest] . o O ( <Mmmhh - hungry)

JohnSte says, "I just finished breakfast."

ying [guest] says, "I ordered noodle with sea foods... like shrimp .."

JohnSte says, "Sounds tasty."

DavidW says, "Sounds good to me"

VanceS says, "hmmmm"

DafneG [to BJB]: "got it, thanks"

ying [guest] says, "Food is so so.. I could make it better in my kitchen."

JohnSte says, "Especially the shrimp."

DavidW [to DafneG]: "See, paella with shrimp (and lobster and mussels and...)"

Azzam [guest] . o O ( it's lunch time soon, what shall i eat? )

ying [guest] says, "But my friend.. she was not well.. so she did not eat anything.. So."

ying [guest] says, "I ate doulbe main course at noon."

ying [guest] says, "courses."

DafneG [to DavidW]: "and crab"

JohnSte says, "That's sad. Go to lunch and not eat."

VanceS says, "nice thing about living near the Gulf, lots of shrimp"

DavidW [to DafneG]: "Yes, that's allowed."

ying [guest] says, "Yes... I felt sorry for her."

ying [guest] says, "I am getting fat.. remember.."

ArthurM has connected.

JohnSte says, "Then you should exercise to get rid of those extra calories."

Azzam [guest] says, "thanks guys, got to go"

JohnSte says, "Or you'll soon look like I did."

DavidW [quiet] waves bye to Azzam [guest].

JohnSte says, "See you, Azzam."

DafneG says, "Let's not talk about getting fat"

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "Is that really possible?"

DanB says, "Good bye, Azzam."

Azzam [guest] wave

VanceS says, "OK, Azzam. Hey you need to send an intro to the webheads group."

MichaelAC has connected.

Azzam [guest] [to VanceS]: "no sweat"

ying [guest] says, "I went to Jade Market in this afternoon .. because my friend who lives in Australia asked me to buy some beads for her.."

MichaelAC says, "Hello everyone"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves welcome to Michael

JohnSte says, "Not, really, she would need to put on quite a few extra pounds."

DanB says, "Hello, Michael."

JohnSte says, "Hi, Michael."

DavidW [quiet] waves to MichaelAC.

ying [guest] says, "I walked ... ..."

DavidW . o O ( good exercise )

ying [guest] says, "hi Michael"

VanceS says, "Hello Michael."

JohnSte says, "Walking is a good exercise."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_147 [guest] has disconnected.

VanceS says, "Hey Michael, I was talking to your neighbor an hour ago ..."

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "Swimming to the Mainland?"

DafneG says, "Hi, Michael"

JohnSte says, "No, too much to carry to swim that far."

MichaelAC asks, "My neighbour is online????"

DavidW says, "I think we are just missing someone in South America and Antarctica and then we'd have the continents covered."

MdA [to BJB]: "i'am practicing on the commands given by you"

VanceS says, "not online ..."

MichaelAC exclaims, "V- you mean Mark!"

JohnSte asks, "Who do we have in Africa?"

DafneG says, "Rita is from Argentina"

DavidW says, "Okay, Africa, not S. America, then."

DavidW [quiet] blushes.

VanceS [just mugged by a band of cybergypsies] does not mean Mark

DavidW [to RitaZ]: "My apologies for forgetting that Argentina is a large country in South America"

MichaelAC asks, "OK then Vance - who is my neighbour?"

DavidW . o O ( Quiz show? )

JohnSte asks, "So, Ying, how long are you going to be in New York?"

RitaZ [to DavidW]: "that's ok, David"

VanceS says, "not right next door, not the house one over ..."

ying [guest] says, "I will leave New York before Jan. 19, 2003."

ying [guest] says, "Less than one year."

JohnSte says, "I'll be in Pennsylvania from this Tuesday until mid May."

MichaelAC says, "I give up! (Vance)"

MdA [to RitaZ]: "hoe is argentina.i've listen that this country is going to launch more opportunities in the engineering sector"

DavidW . o O ( Poor Michael )

ying [guest] says, "I will bring my young brother's notebook computer to go to New York."

VanceS says, "THREE doors down, Michael"

MichaelAC asks, "But Vance - have you heard from my buddy Mark?"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Are you staying in New York City or elsewhere?"

RitaZ [to DavidW]: "(yo tambien lo siento...en otro lado estaria mejor...)"

VanceS asks, "Yep, Alan Christie?"

JohnSte says, "I plan to buy another laptop and give this one to my youngest daughter."

ying [guest] asks, "So... I heard that it is very expensive to be on line in New York. Is that true?"

MichaelAC says, "Wow!!!! (to vance)"

MargaretD exclaims, "Hey John, you could actually meet Ying then!"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "No, not at all."

ying [guest] asks, "How?"

DafneG [to Rita,]: "there is another Argentinian girl in the Webheads session"

MichaelAC says, "Yes. Alan and I were neighbours as kids."

JohnSte says, "Looks like it. I'll only be about 8 hours from the city (by car.)"

RitaZ [to DafneG]: "yes, I know"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Where will you be staying. I'm about 10 miles from new York City"

ying [guest] says, "8 Hours... it takes one day to get there."

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "We'll do lunch, then."

DavidW [quiet] grins at JohnSte [Webhead].

DafneG [to Rita,]: "I met her in an online course in NOvember"

JohnSte says, "8 hours is a nice drive."

ying [guest] says, "I will live in Queen.. but I have no idea about my address."

DavidW says, "For you, maybe."

You hear a quiet popping sound; MdA has lost his link.

JohnSte says, "I prefer driving than flying."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "I see. It shouldn't be expensive, but it will cost some money."

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "to swimming, I suppose, too."

JohnSte says, "If it's very far, yes."

ying [guest] says, "Someone.. I could use Zeqo.net to get free 40 hours service..."

MichaelAC asks, "Are you going to NY this week Ying?"

ying [guest] says, "I will be New York on Jan. 25.. it is next Friday."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Well, ATT just announced Internet access fo $16.95 per month. That's the cheapest I have seen."

VanceS asks, "I'm starting voice chat. Would anyone like to join us?" <Follow Vance and Gary to voice chat -->

MichaelAC exclaims, "Fantastic Ying. The time has finally come!"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "We'll try to clean up the city for you, by then."

ying [guest] says, "Ye... I have not packed ..."

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

Lev [guest] says, "I'm sorry people - it hurts me to have to leave you but I'm on duty at the kitchen today - don't want to have trouble with"

Lev [guest] says, "the family"

ying [guest] exclaims, "you mean.. i am too fat!!"

DavidW [to Leve]: "Good cooking"

DavidW [quiet] waves bye to Lev [guest].

VanceS says, "bye lev"

BJB [HelpDesk] smiles and waves bye to Lev. Nice meeting you

JohnSte says, "OK, Lev. See you next week."

VanceS says, "nice you could join us,"

MargaretD says, "bye Lev"

DanB says, "Good bye, Lev."

VanceS says, "Every sunday noon GMT"

Lev [guest] exclaims, "[waving] bye for now!"

RitaZ says, "bye, Lev"

ying [guest] says, "by , Lev."

Lev [guest] exclaims, "be back next time!"

DafneG says, "bye"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Sometimes New York City is considered to have a lot of garbage in teh streets."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_76 [guest] has disconnected.

JohnSte says, "Ying, just remember that Webheads starts at 7:00 in the morning in New York."

MichaelAC smiles at John

ying [guest] says, "yes, I got it."

You hear a quiet popping sound; ArthurM has disconnected.

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "What will you be doing in New York?"

ying [guest] says, "But If I go out to visit another city.. I can not be here."

DavidW [quiet] agrees.

JohnSte says, "That's true."

ying [guest] says, "Work at our New York Branch."

ying [guest] says, "Working"

DavidW asks, "New York branch of what company/schoo/enterprise?"

ying [guest] says, "or To work at our New York Brancy.."

ying [guest] says, "The International Commercial Bank of China."

ying [guest] says, "No. 65 Liberty Street, New York."

DavidW asks, "And the offices for the bank are where?"

DavidW says, "Wow, downtown in Manhattan. Not far from the World Trade Center"

VanceS says, "hands up if you want to voice chat"

MichaelAC says, "I only popped in to say a quick hi tonight. So Ying - I just want to wish you a great journey and very much look forward to what you say about your new life over there."

ying [guest] says, "It takes 5 min. to go to WTO by walking."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Yes, it does. I was on Canal Street yesterday afternoon"

ying [guest] says, "Thanks Michael."

MichaelAC says, "All the best Ying. Good night everyone."

ying [guest] says, "Good night."

JohnSte says, "Good night, Michael."

DavidW [quiet] waves to MichaelAC.

MargaretD says, "slaap lekker mc1"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MichaelAC has disconnected.

VanceS asks, "already??"

BJB asks, "Michael just forwarded a message from Gary about WIMBA. is anyone not on the webheads list and want to see it?"

ying [guest] says, "I saw.. firewoks tonigh when I came home from Jade Market."

DanB [to BJB]: "Sure."

ying [guest] says, "That was beautiful."

DavidW says, "Lower Broadway has been renamed (at least on MapQuest), "Canyon of Heroes""

JohnSte asks, "What were they celebrating, Ying?"

marina has connected.

marina [guest] says, "marina"

DavidW [quiet] waves to marina [guest].

JohnSte says, "Hi, Marina."

DanB says, "Hello, Marina."

VanceS says, "good, marina is here"

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VanceS says, "Hi Marina"

BJB . o O ( awful url! )

MargaretD asks, "Hi maria...come stai`?"

ying [guest] says, "I don't know... but I guess.. it probably related Election."

DafneG says, "Hello Marina"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "I live about 10 miles north of the George Washington Bridge, which connects Manhattan to New Jersey, about 20 miles from where you will be working."

ying [guest] says, "We will have an local election on Jan. 26."

ying [guest] says, "What a pitty!! I can not vote this time."

marina [guest] says, "Hi everyone"

RitaZ says, "hi, Marina"

ying [guest] says, "hello marina"

VanceS says, "hi, I'm back here now"

DafneG [to Marina,]: "where are you from"

VanceS asks, "Gary is using a mac. Do macs do Yahoo voice?"

marina [guest] says, "I'm from Italy"

BJB looks away.

DavidW [to Marina [guest]]: "Como estai?"

DafneG [to DavidW]: "tambin italiano?"

ying [guest] says, "Italy is a beautiful country."

marina [guest] says, "Bene!! I'm also in yahoo messenger"

DavidW [to DafneG]: "No, not at all."

BJB drops 2002/01/20 WebHeads2 (recording).

DavidW [quiet] grins at DafneG.

BJB picks up 2002/01/20 WebHeads.

MargaretD says, "un pocino"

ying [guest] says, "Actually, I need to go.. to pack my luggage."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_52 [guest] has disconnected.

DafneG [to DavidW,]: "marina can teach us then"

DavidW exclaims, "Muy buen!"

JohnSte says, "ok, Ying. Have a nice trip."

ying [guest] says, "I need to reply some email."

DavidW . o O ( Dove il bano? )

DafneG [to VanceS]: "I am ready for yahoo voice chat"

ying [guest] says, "see you... guys."

VanceS exclaims, "Ying Lan, keep in touch!"

ying [guest] says, "sure."

DavidW [quiet] casn't voice chat on y Macintosh computer.

RitaZ [to Ying [guest]]: "good trip!"

MargaretD says, "take care and have a safe journey ying...^^-"

JohnSte says, "see you, Ying."

VanceS [to DafneG]: "OK"

marina has connected.

DanB says, "Good bye, Ying. Have a great trip to NYC."

ying [guest] says, "Can I use computer in public libary at 7 am in New York? DAvidW"

DanB says, "w/ho"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Probably not, since they won't be open then. But there are other options."

ying [guest] says, "go on"

ying [guest] asks, "options?"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "If you would like a phone number, I would be happy to give it to you."

ying [guest] says, "sure."

DavidW asks, "Well, what I often use in New York City, in Manhattan is any number of cybercafe places that have Internet access. Kinko's, a company that provides xerox machines for people to use, also has Internet access on their computers. It costs money, but then what doesn't?"

ying [guest] asks, "how much?"

DavidW says, "There are several Kinko's in lower Manhattan, near where you will be working. On Water Street, for example"

JohnSte says, "The preceeding has been a paid advertisement for Kinko."

ying [guest] asks, "phone number?"

DavidW [quiet] grins at JohnSte [Webhead].

DavidW says, "$0.30/minute so it can be expensive if you are staying online a long time. BUt at 7am the public libraries won't be open, at least I don't think so."

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "I'm a Kinko enthusiast, too. I believe they do a good job."

JohnSte says, "They do."

DavidW [quiet] agrees.

MargaretD says, "sounds kinky..."

DavidW says, "I can get cheaper access in New York, but Kink's is spread out around the city."

DavidW . o O ( and they open 24 hours )

JohnSte [Webhead] groans.

ying [guest] says, "all. I thought that you will give me ISP's phone number."

ying [guest] says, "Not your phone number."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Well, it depends. There are a lot of ISPs for New York City. So, you have to decide what you will use."

MargaretD says, "LOL"

GaryCz has connected.

DavidW [quiet] grins.

DavidW [to MargaretD]: "Stop!"

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

DavidW says, "Man, I'm just getting in deeper, here."

ying [guest] says, "maggi.. don'g laught .. please ;-00"

DavidW [quiet] grins.

DavidW [quiet] laughs.

DavidW exclaims, "There you go!"

JohnSte asks, "How red are you, David?"

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

DavidW says, "I'm laughing more than I'm blushing, I'll tell you."

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

DavidW exclaims, "It's defnitely warming up in here!"

VanceS says, "whew"

DavidW [quiet] casn't stop laughing.

GaryCz says, "I'm back after a reboot. Everyone has turned red and hot since I've been gone."

ying [guest] says, "I am sorry..."

DavidW exclaims, "Yes, Gary, we have!"

VanceS says, "hi Gary, glad to see you back"

MargaretD exclaims, "turn the heat down...quick a fire extinguisher!"

JohnSte says, "Don't be sorry, Ying."

ying [guest] says, "I am relly preciate your help, David."

VanceS says, "Marina has a we b cam up but we can't see it yet"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Don't worry, Margaret started it."

GaryCz [to VanceS]: "You wanna try Yahoo voice again?"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Well, coming to New York for the first time can be a little challenging adn I'm happy to help."

MargaretD asks, "I did?"

DavidW [quiet] grins at MargaretD.

VanceS [to Gary]: "ok"

JohnSte says, "Talking about kinky kinko's."

MargaretD exclaims, "ROTFL!!"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "I've been playing soccer in Chinatown, so I've been in lower Manhattan a great deal this Fall and Winter"

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "I'm sure it's happened, late nights..."

JohnSte says, "Of course it has, that's why it so funny."

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "There is one pretty close to Times Square on 47th Street."

DavidW [quiet] agrees.

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "We don't mean to be disrespectful, I hope you understand that."

DavidW . o O ( It's gotten a little quiet... )

ying [guest] .s its neighbor just gave it a bounch of Vegtable.

ying [guest] says, "my neighbor."

DavidW [quiet] nods.

MargaretD asks, "what kinds ying?"

ying [guest] says, "In winter, Vegetable is very cheap and very good here."

JohnSte says, "Really? That's how it in here in Summer."

MargaretD asks, "why are they cheaper in winter?"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Where (town or city) are you at the moment?"

ying [guest] says, "White Radish and Cobbage"

MargaretD says, "ah...same here"

JohnSte says, "Hmmm. Sounds good."

ying [guest] says, "some dry cobbage"

MargaretD says, "they serve a white radish curl with beer and pretzels here"

DavidW . o O ( White radish is daikon? )

ying [guest] asks, "beer?"

DavidW . o O ( beer1 )

RitaZ says, "I need to get going, people, it's been fun today..."

MargaretD says, "cabbageYing"

JohnSte says, "OK, Rita. See you next week."

RitaZ says, "pleased to meet everybody"

DavidW [to RitaZ]: "Vaya con Dios, Buena Suerte"

MargaretD exclaims, "bye Rita!"

JohnSte says, "Be careful with those pretzels, Maggi."

RitaZ says, "lo mismo digo, David"

VanceS says, "bye rita"

DavidW [to RitaZ]: "Gracias"

ying [guest] says, "Daikon Radish is similar ."

RitaZ exclaims, "chau !!"

VanceS says, "sorry I/m distracted with voice and cams"

You hear a quiet popping sound; RitaZ has disconnected.

VanceS says, "ciao for niao"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "I'm sure there are different types of even white radish"

ShunI says, "Good night. 10:30 pm here, past my bed times."

ying [guest] says, "maybe. ..."

JohnSte says, "OK, Shun. See you."

ShunI says, "Talk to you later."

JohnSte asks, "Maybe, what, Ying?"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ShunI has disconnected.

ying [guest] says, "Radish and Daikno"

ying [guest] says, "Daikon"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "In any event, if I can be of assistance to you when you reach New York, feel free to let me know."

ying [guest] says, "I will.. but my coworkers will take care of me..."

MargaretD says, "he's a nice guy Ying...:-)"

ying [guest] says, "They arranged everything... they will pick me up at the JKF."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "I can also give you my email address: wex@pobox.com - I'm sure your co-workers will take care of you as well."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Very sensible"

ying [guest] says, "I knew.. thanks."

DavidW asks, "What kind of banking work will you be doing in New York?"

ying [guest] says, "I will meet Vance there in March or April..."

DavidW [quiet] nods.

DavidW says, "I would like to meet Vance as well."

DavidW [quiet] grins.

ying [guest] says, "I have no ideaa... but I think it will be a simple one."

JohnSte asks, "Really, You going to be in New York in March or April, Vance?"

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

MargaretD says, "I met him in Amsterdam"

DavidW says, "I'll find a room"

You hear a quiet popping sound; GaryCz has lost his link.

DavidW says, "Poor Gary"

ying [guest] says, "Vance... he is not listening."

VanceS says, "yes"

VanceS says, "in April"

JohnSte says, "Constantly losing it."

DavidW says, "That might get his attention."

DavidW [quiet] grins.

JohnSte says, "His link, I mean."

ying [guest] says, "Vance will go another city, but he will drop in New YOrk."

DavidW [quiet] laughs.

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "Right, that's what you meant."

ying [guest] says, "To transfer airplane."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Kennedy airport is a GREAT place to meet."

JohnSte asks, "Where are you going, Vance?"

MargaretD . o O ( open the door of the plane and push him out )

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

VanceS says, "Sorry Ying Lan, I'm trying to find Dafne in Yahoo"

VanceS . o O ( arrrgggggg )

DavidW [quiet] starts thinking about what to do to Vance at the airport, since he doesn't know what he look like, he think.

ying [guest] says, "Can you reply Jone's question? Vance"

VanceS says, "Yeah, sorry. I have to turn off the web cam"

VanceS says, "it's taking bandwidth."

VanceS says, "Then I'll answer john"

ying [guest] exclaims, "OH!!"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "He can, the question is will he"

VanceS says, "There should be faster now"

DavidW . o O ( When will he? )

VanceS says, "OK, I'm going from Abu Dhabi maybe to Amsterdam"

JohnSte [Webhead] thinks Where will he.

VanceS says, "Then to San Francisco"

DavidW . o O ( By way of NYC? )

VanceS says, "Then to Houston, then to Salt Lake City"

DavidW says, "Ooh, I could go to SF."

ying [guest] says, "Wa... YOu will go to half of USA."

JohnSte says, "Too late for the olympics."

DavidW [quiet] nods.

MargaretD . o O ( he needs a parachute then )

JohnSte says, "My youngest may be going to SF this summer."

ying [guest] asks, "How can I meet in New York? At JKF?"

ying [guest] says, "we"

DavidW says, "Yes, it's in Queens, also"

DanB looks Away.

JohnSte says, "Good question, Ying."

VanceS says, "I'm working on that"

DavidW [to VanceS]: "How much of a layover do you have? Do you even know, yet?"

ying [guest] says, "Just let me know the result... by the way, My email address need to changed to yinglanliu@yahoo.com"

ying [guest] says, "be changed"

DavidW [quiet] nods.

ying [guest] says, "yinglanliu@yahoo.com"

marina [guest] says, "I'm here again. I've left the conference"

ying [guest] says, "by marina"

DanB says, "Have a good week everyone. I need to do some other work."

ying [guest] says, "I want to go now."

ying [guest] says, "me too."

You hear a quiet popping sound; DanB has disconnected.

marina [guest] says, "Bye ying"

ying [guest] says, "see you soon, DAvid W."

JohnSte says, "By, mARINA."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Have a safe trip."

VanceS asks, "Is marina leaving?"

JohnSte says, "See you, Ying."

VanceS asks, "SHe's in Yahoo?"

marina [guest] says, "Bye John"

ying [guest] says, "See you my dear fiends ... next week, if I can connect .. in New York."

DavidW says, "I dn't know."

JohnSte says, "See you, Dan,"

VanceS says, "I haven't planned my flights yet"

DavidW [quiet] nods to ying [guest].

marina [guest] says, "i'm not leaving"

VanceS says, "I will try to work in New York"

DavidW [to VanceS]: "Didn't think so."

ying [guest] asks, "work?"

DavidW . o O ( work? )

ying [guest] asks, "Vance will try to work in New York?"

DavidW [quiet] wonders.

JohnSte asks, "For how long?"

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

DavidW says, "Well, I'm going to shovel some snow and maybe find the Sunday New York Times, if I can."

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Where are you coming from?"

ying [guest] says, "Taiwan"

ying [guest] says, "Vance.. answer the question... please."

DavidW asks, "Are you in Taipei right now?"

DavidW [quiet] beeps VanceS [just mugged by a band of cybergypsies] with Hey.

ying [guest] says, "no.. at Feng Yuan.."

DavidW says, "I'll look at my map."

ying [guest] says, "I don't think you will find it."

ying [guest] says, "Feng Yuan is a small town at the north of Taichung."

DavidW says, "I see Taichung"

GaryCz has connected.

VanceS exclaims, "I can't wait to read these logs!"

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "Perseverance"

ying [guest] says, "Vance... I want to go.. Can you answer the question.. why you will work in New Yorl"

VanceS says, "see what I missed"

DavidW [quiet] nods.

DavidW says, "Yup"

VanceS says, "why? to see you and David"

JohnSte says, "uh huh"

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

VanceS says, "How? not sure"

ying [guest] asks, "work?"

DavidW says, "Speak in sentences, people."

ying [guest] says, "YOu said " work""

DavidW [quiet] grins.

ying [guest] says, "not visit"

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "International treaties have been negotiated like this."

VanceS says, "Maybe I can go amsterdam to New york, or new york to amsterdam"

JohnSte says, "You said you would try to work in New York."

DavidW says, "I think it works both ways."

DavidW [quiet] grins.

DavidW . o O ( Let's go to the videotape! )

JohnSte says, "They think you mean "get a job""

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

ying [guest] exclaims, "GeeeeeeGeee!!"

VanceS says, "There are no flights Salt Lake City to Amsterdam"

VanceS says, "Maybe I can go to New Yor from there"

ying [guest] says, "Got to go."

DavidW says, "He's being very coy"

DavidW [to Ying [guest]]: "Take care"

JohnSte says, "To work in also means to make arrangements to include."

DavidW [quiet] nods.

DavidW . o O ( work it out )

JohnSte says, "See you, Ying."

DavidW . o O ( arrange )

MargaretD exclaims, "bye Ying!"

ying [guest] says, "jsut let me know the result."

ying [guest] says, "see you."

DavidW [quiet] smiles.

ying [guest] says, "bye."

VanceS says, "OK Ying Lan. I will try"

DavidW [quiet] looks for the shovel.

DavidW looks up'n'down.

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_68 [guest] has disconnected.

VanceS says, "I just spoke to a travel agent and asked her to work on it"

DavidW [up'n'down] nods.

GaryCz says, "Anyone want to try a voice chat on Yahoo? I tried with Vance, but I think he gave up on me. I am gcziko on Yahoo."

VanceS says, "meanwhile, in Yahoo we're having trouble with the conference voice chat"

DavidW [to VanceS]: "Am I correct in that I CANNOT RUN VOICE CHAT in Yahoo, on my Macintosh?"

VanceS says, "we haven't given up, gary"

VanceS says, "It's a bit flaky today"

GaryCz asks, "Is voice chat generally reliableon Yahoo? Have people tried NetMetting (but doesn't run on Macs)?"

VanceS says, "it seems to be working only one on one today"

DavidW says, "I'll go download it on a PC"

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "Cu-SeeME works pretty well on Macs and PCs"

VanceS asks, "why not, David?"

VanceS asks, "ever tried iVisit?"

DavidW [to VanceS]: "I'm asking you a question. I thought it was only available on the PC version. But, I also need a Web Cam, right?"

VanceS says, "if you want to be seen, yes"

DavidW [up'n'down] nods.

VanceS says, "On Yahoo you can view web cams"

DavidW says, "Don't need it for voice, though."

GaryCz exclaims, "Who cares about being seen. I'd be happy being heard!"

DavidW says, "Right."

DavidW [up'n'down] grins.

DavidW [to GaryCz]: "Heard that!"

DavidW [up'n'down] smiles.

DavidW asks, "Okay, off to shovel some snow. How warm is it in Abu Dhabi, today?"

GaryCz asks, "So, Yahoo voice chat allows conference chats?"

VanceS says, "24 degrees"

VanceS says, "it usually does."

DavidW says, "Warm."

DavidW [up'n'down] smiles.

VanceS says, "it appears that Dafne and Marina are talking, but I can't join then"

VanceS says, "I have talked with dafne and I've talked with marina, but I can't talk with both at once today"

JohnSte says, "It's 30 here."

GaryCz asks, "How do you know if people are talking privately?"

DavidW says, "Gotta love that software."

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "Oh, man, that's not fair."

DavidW [up'n'down] grins.

JohnSte says, "(That's Centegrade). Love these tropics."

VanceS says, "it has worked well for us in the past David"

marina [guest] says, "Here we are"

DafneG says, "I am back here"

marina [guest] says, "you're still there, John"

JohnSte says, "Yep. Still here."

VanceS says, "i'm here"

VanceS says, "just closing window"

marina [guest] asks, "What about Ying?"

DavidW [to VanceS]: "I believe you, but I've often found audiovisual stuff over the Web unnecessarily complicated."

VanceS says, "trying to raise Gary on Yahoo"

JohnSte says, "Thinking about what the day will be like (It's 30 at 9:45 am) What will it be like later."

DavidW says, "Unless you have dedicated fast connections. ISDN, T1, reliable high-speed technolgy"

VanceS exclaims, "It is complicated now, but when it works, it's great!"

marina [guest] exclaims, "Yes sometimes it's great!"

DavidW [to VanceS]: "Of course. It's the iffy-ness that has bothered me. I'm not sure why it isn't more reliable."

DavidW says, "T1 access is usally pretty good, but we all don't have that in our houses."

DafneG [to Marina,]: "it was nice listening to your voice"

DavidW [up'n'down] grins.

DavidW says, "Well, there you go."

VanceS says, "you have to get experienced in order to be able to use it when it's ready to be used"

DavidW [up'n'down] agrees with VanceS [just mugged by a band of cybergypsies].

DavidW [up'n'down] wonders if VanceS [just mugged by a band of cybergypsies] is recovering from the mugging.

marina [guest] says, "for me too."

VanceS looks recovered from mugging.

VanceS asks, "Is anyone here using Yahoo with Macs?"

JohnSte says, "I'm not."

marina [guest] says, "No, I'm not"

VanceS says, "besides Gary ..."

DafneG says, "Not me"

VanceS says, "Susanne said she couldn't participate because she didn't have the latest mac"

VanceS asks, "Has anyone tried iVisit?"

JohnSte says, "I though macs were illegal."

MargaretD says, "lol"

DafneG asks, "Where's BJB?"

VanceS says, "people tell me iVisit is mac and pc friendly but I've never tried it"

JohnSte says, "The other day, the doctor gave me some pills to take. He told me to take one at each meal with a large glass of water."

VanceS [recovered from mugging] listens to John

MargaretD says, "I have"

DafneG asks, "What's iVisit?"

JohnSte says, "When I asked him what was wrong, he told me I wasn't drinking enough water."

VanceS [recovered from mugging] sighs

You hear a quiet popping sound; GaryCz has lost his link.

VanceS says, "look what your joke did to Gary, John"

JohnSte says, "Sorry about that."

JohnSte says, "I was afraid that would happen."

Marina [guest] [to <Dafne>]: "<What are you?>"

VanceS says, "Hey I can introduce you two, Dafne and Marina"

DafneG [to Marina [guest]]: "an ESP teacher"

VanceS says, "Gary's going to download iVisit"

DafneG says, "go ahead, VAnce"

VanceS asks, "can I /show you each other's urls ?"

VanceS says, "that opens a browser on your computers"

DafneG projects DafneG.
Foreign Language Teacher working at Universidad Simon Bolivar in Caracas, Venezuela.

VanceS asks, "can I SHOW you Marina, Dafne?"

VanceS says, "http://sites.hsprofessional.com/vstevens/files/efi/marina.htm"

VanceS says, "If I show it, it opens the browser on your computer"

DafneG says, "ok"

VanceS [recovered from mugging] shows DafneG the URL: http://sites.hsprofessional.com/vstevens/files/efi/marina.htm

VanceS asks, "Shall I SHOW you Dafne's url, Marina?"

marina [guest] says, "ok"

VanceS [recovered from mugging] shows marina the URL: http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens//papers/evonline2002/community.htm#dafne

VanceS says, "now I'm going to try iVisit with Gary"

VanceS says, "This might cost me my link"

VanceS says, "here goes ..."

DavidW asks, "From what side does anyone recommend downloading iVisit?"

VanceS says, "I'm having to go there myself. Hang on."

DavidW [up'n'down] nods.

VanceS says, "http://www.ivisit.com/"

DavidW says, "thanks."

VanceS asks, "why do you keep standing up and sitting down, David?"

DavidW says, "Because I just shovelled the front walk and found the newspaper."

VanceS [recovered from mugging] laughs at his own joke!!

DafneG says, "he's hyperactive"

VanceS asks, "Dafne, you said you teach a class online? Right?"

DafneG says, "no, I will"

DavidW [to DafneG]: "You know me so well!"

DafneG says, "because you like paella"

DavidW asks, "Is that like reading tea leaves to predict your future?"

DafneG says, "If things go as I want, I will be teaching a unit on line in April"

DavidW . o O ( Like grains of rice in a paella pan, so are THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES )

DafneG says, "yes, reading the rice grains"

VanceS asks, "what kind of unit?"

DafneG says, "on Modernist Spanish Architecture"

DafneG says, "I am collecting the material"

DavidW asks, "Like Bilbao?"

DafneG says, "I am using Egbert and Hanson_Smith conditions of language learning to design it and evaluate it"

DafneG says, "I am working on Valencia's buildings"

DavidW nods.

DafneG says, "I want to use the same kind of alternative evaluation I use in my classroom classes on line"

DafneG says, "I am working on the Blackboard platform"

marina [guest] says, "I have to leave you now"

JohnSte says, "OK, See you, Marina."

marina [guest] says, "See you next time and have a nice day"

DafneG says, "I attended a session on how to use that platform in St. Louis (TESOL Convention) last year"

MargaretD exclaims, "bye Marina...ciao!"

DafneG says, "bye marina, nice meeting you"

DafneG says, "ciao cara"

DavidW waves to marina [guest].

marina [guest] says, "Bye Vance"

DavidW says, "Ciao"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_24 [guest] has disconnected.

KeniK has arrived.
KeniK's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

JohnSte says, "Well, it's about time for me to take off, too. Next time I connect to the class will be from Indiana, PA."

MargaretD says, "byeJohn"

JohnSte says, "Bye, Maggi."

DavidW says, "happy travels."

JohnSte says, "See all of you next week."

JohnSte says, "Thanks, David."

DavidW . o O ( Back to snowy PA )

DafneG says, "yes, it's about time for lunch, I will have couscous with lamb and vegetables with a lot of curry"

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [recovered from mugging] has lost his link.

You hear a quiet popping sound; JohnSte [Webhead] has disconnected.

Disconnected from TAPPED IN on Sun Jan 20 06:19:10 2002 PST.

<Vance is once more rendered into cyberdust with respect to Tapped In, returns after some minutes ... >

Connected to TAPPED IN on Sun Jan 20 06:21:22 2002 PST.

DavidW is looking on the map for the land bridge from southern Florida.

VanceS looks worse for wear.

DafneG asks, "is t a long bridge?"

VanceS says, "Hi again."

Lev has connected.

VanceS says, "Boy, I've been having a heckuva time"

DavidW says, "Hey"

DavidW [to DafneG]: "Yup, a very long bridge."

DafneG asks, "how was the visit to iVisit?"

DavidW waves to Lev [guest].

VanceS says, "haven't made it yet. My last disconnect happened mid download"

DafneG sad face

DavidW says, "I've got the software, but do I want to use it since I don't have a camera."

Lev [guest] asks, "(wiping hands with kitchen apron) hi, I'm back. Have I missed anything important?"

DavidW [to DafneG]: "Try: /:frowns"

DavidW [to Lev [guest]]: "Well, yes and no."

DavidW smiles.

VanceS [worse for wear] smiles

DafneG frowns

DavidW nods.

DavidW says, "Sad face is quite expresive as well."

DavidW . o O ( expressive )

VanceS says, "mingqiu might try to join us"

KeniK goes OUT.

KeniK's personal recorder (recording) goes OUT.

VanceS says, "I'm trying to get ivisit again"

KeniK has arrived.

KeniK's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

DavidW waves to KeniK.

DavidW [to KeniK]: "Hello."

VanceS asks, "Hi Keni. Where are you joining us from?"

KeniK exclaims, "i am a chinese!"

KeniK exclaims, "nice to meet you!"

DavidW [to KeniK]: "I'm David Weksler. I'm in the USA near New York City"

VanceS says, "nice to meet you. Mingqiu from Nanning is trying to join us"

DafneG says, "Hi, Keni"

KeniK says, "hi"

VanceS asks, "have you heard of Webheads?"

KeniK exclaims, "i am from hubei province in china !"

VanceS says, "so, this is Mingqiu"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_150 [guest] has disconnected.

VanceS says, "Of course MQ has heard of webheads"

VanceS says, "by the way, my machine is acting flaky again"

DavidW says, "Sorry."

VanceS says, "that does it"

DavidW listens.

DafneG says, "I have to go folks"

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [worse for wear] has lost his link.

Disconnected from TAPPED IN on Sun Jan 20 06:38:19 2002 PST.

DafneG says, "nice talking to you all"

DavidW says, "Ciao"

DafneG says, "see you next week"

DavidW waves bye.

You hear a quiet popping sound; DafneG has disconnected.

DavidW waves bye to BJB [away], MargaretD, and KeniK.

DavidW says, "See you all later."

DavidW says, "Ciao"

You hear a quiet popping sound; DavidW has disconnected.

MargaretD says, "bye all.."

GaryCz has connected.

You hear a quiet popping sound; MargaretD has disconnected.

BJB [to Gary]: "you finally find a solution to your connection problem?"

BJB asks, "anyone still here?"

Connected to TAPPED IN on Sun Jan 20 07:34:30 2002 PST.

VanceS puts 2002/01/20 WebHeads in Webheads Recordings.

VanceS puts 2002/01/20 WebHeads2 in Webheads Recordings.

VanceS teleports to the reception.

Stopped recording in VanceS's Office (#12249) at Sun Jan 20 07:42:23 2002 PST.

Started recording in Reception (#268)[TappedIn] at Sun Jan 20 07:42:23 2002 PST.

VanceS says, "hi Mingqiu"

VanceS says, "I just came to get my recordings of the session tonight."

VanceS says, "I'm home now."

VanceS says, "about to eat."

VanceS says, "and also about to leave"

VanceS says, "and about to say goodbye"

VanceS says, "hope all was well at the session. Try to come a little earlier next week. See you then."

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [worse for wear] has disconnected.

Disconnected from TAPPED IN on Sun Jan 20 07:44:13 2002 PST.

<Top> Tapped In chat logs | Vance and Gary on Yahoo

Vance tries voice chat with Gary

gcziko: I just restarted my browser and was about to try again. Can we go voice?

vance_stevens: yeah, I was just looking for you for that

gcziko: I've just been notified I need to update Yahoo messenger to use voice. Should I take the time todo that now?

vance_stevens: yeah, why not

vance_stevens: I was told there was a network problem, but if you get the right version, that might be it.

gcziko: OK, I'll give a try and will get back to you.

vance_stevens: doesn't take long

gcziko: I'm back. Are you still there?

vance_stevens: yep. I'll invite you to voice conference.

vance_stevens: how's it goin? got an invitation yet?

gcziko: No invitation this time.

vance_stevens: hmmm, let me try again

gcziko: Maybe I should try from this end, if you tell me what to do.

vance_stevens: well, we already have a conference

vance_stevens: I tried again

vance_stevens: but that's a possibility. Start with you and ask the others

vance_stevens: any invitation yet?

gcziko: No invitation yet.

gcziko: I can see why the telephone is still popular!

vance_stevens: ok, I'll start voice here

vance_stevens: it says you have an older version and can't enable voice, but it's connected us

gcziko: Maddening. I just got the same notice that I need to upgrade Yahoo Messenger (which I just did).

vance_stevens: what version do you have? Did you shut it down?

gcziko: I don't hear anything.

vance_stevens: shut it down? Log off? Restart?

vance_stevens: maybe needs to hook up with its dlls

gcziko: I have 1.0.1 for the Mac. I will restart my machine and come back unless you say not to.

vance_stevens: good idea. Try that

vance_stevens: it could be a mac problem as well (sadly)

vance_stevens: but let's try reboot

<Top> Tapped In chat logs | Vance and Gary on Yahoo

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