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Webheads chat logs from December 16, 2001

Meet the people in the chat today


Maggi	John	BJB	Arthur	Dan	Ying Lan	Michael	Maggi	Susanne
Germany	Pennsylvania	Pennsylvania	Ireland	Wisconsin	Taiwan	Australia	Germany	Denmark

and Webheads and visitors to Tapped In Karin, Venny, Elizabeth, James, and DavidW

Vance was away in Oman today, and there was no evidence left of any chaos navigation. The only record left was a recording in Tapped In which Vance has posted below. It seems that the main topic of discussion was color and its connotations in different cultures, though the weather was a secondary topic. Susanne was cooking in the kitchen. Ying Lan was still waiting for her visa to the USA. James was about to leave for Spain and Wales. Maggi was feeling better after a bout with back problems. Perhaps someone who was there would like to add a commentary?

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Started recording in Reception (#268)[TappedIn] at Sun Dec 16 03:40:21 2001 PST.

BJB drops 2001/12/16 WebHeads (recording).

MichaelAC says, "Hello everyone"

BJB says, "hi, Michael. G'day"

MichaelAC exclaims, "G'day mate!"

MichaelAC says, "Arthur - nice to see you here."

MichaelAC exclaims, "I thought I'd come early today. That way I'll get to bed earlier!"

ArthurM says, "Folks, I am multi-tasking, before noon here, tidying up my working space in the days before Christmas ..."

BJB [HelpDesk] smiles and nods...hard to meet all the needs of all the time zones! Crack of dawn for me

ArthurM asks, "Where are you, Michael?"

MichaelAC says, "And isn't it nice to know that a Christmas break is coming...I'm in Australia Arthur."

Karin has connected.

BJB says, "Hi, Karin. welcome"

MichaelAC says, "We traded some messages in the wimba forum last week."

BJB [to Karin [guest]]: "May I help you with something?"

ArthurM I'm in Ireland, at a reasonable time of the day

ArthurM says, "Yes, Michael, I recall now"

DanB has arrived.
Seeing Eye follows DanB to here.

ArthurM says, "Hello Karin"

DanB exclaims, "Hello, all!"

MichaelAC says, "So today would be a day off for you Arthur (as it is for me)"

BJB [to Karin [guest]]: "are you here for a webheads discussion or to visit TAPPED IN?"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves hi to Dan

MichaelAC says, "Hello Dan"

DanB says, "Hello. BJ and Michael."

ArthurM says, "Michael, Sunday USED TO BE a day of rest here, but now the purple of commerce invades its peacefulness ..."

BJB [to Karin [guest]]: "to talk type what you want to say in the window next to the word SAY and then press return"

MichaelAC asks, "the *purple* of commerce?"

BJB . o O ( very colorful phrase )

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_111 [guest] has disconnected.

ArthurM ..s a rather poetic phrase, michael ..s.

You hear a quiet popping sound; ArthurM has disconnected.

MichaelAC exclaims, "OK....I'll contemplate that for a while!"

BJB says, "opps..poor Arthur. He has a heck of a time with his connection"

MichaelAC exclaims, "Arthir's gone!"

BJB [HelpDesk] wonders if Purple refers to royalty. We'll have to wait for Arthur to come back

MichaelAC asks, "To refresh my memory Dan - where are you? the US somewhere?"

ArthurM has connected.

DanB says, "Wisconsin, Michael, in a small city."

BJB . o O ( it's even earlier for Dan than for me )

MichaelAC says, "OK"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves welcome back to Arthur

BJB [HelpDesk] wonders if Arthur should try connecting with a text client

ArthurM says, "Sorry, fp;ls, my fingers got overexcited and I ended up out in the cold"

MichaelAC exclaims, "Well Arthur - it's not just the purple, but the Internet that encroaches on our free days!"

ArthurM says, "the purple of commerce" is a phrase in THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ERNEST by Oscar wilde (Who is a VERY remote family connection, it is said)"

MichaelAC smiles at Arthur

BJB asks, "and what does he mean by this, Arthur?"

BJB . o O ( what is the the significance of purple )

ArthurM says, "probably a Latin reference, BJB, but I am not sure"

ArthurM says, "I'll look it up iand get back to you :-)"

BJB says, "cool...I would be very interested...must be the art teacher in me"

MichaelAC exclaims, "It's almost Shakespearean in its obligueness!"

BJB says, "also might be a good webheads topic...color in our language"

MichaelAC says, "Yeh - thinking in colours is an interesting concept."

BJB . o O ( yellow streak of cowardice, mad red, feeling blue, etc )

ArthurM says, "I will google it and seem what I find - back in a minute"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ArthurM has disconnected.

BJB . o O ( Arthur has not mastered the art of multiple screens or his computer is unable to cope with them )

MichaelAC exclaims, "Some people associate people with particular colours - yes BJ!"

MichaelAC exclaims, "As Arhtur is Irish I just think GREEN!"

DanB says, "I've also heard that colors influence emotions."

BJB says, "I do a lesson on colors and the feelings that are associated with them"

BJB says, "some are cultural, some are universal"

MichaelAC asks, "Do you believe that Dan?"

DanB says, "Yes, I've heard that different colors symbolize different things in various cultures."

BJB says, "some cultures wear black for mourning and some wear white"

DanB says, "yes, Michael, I do."

MichaelAC says, "Personally I am sceptical but I am not an artist and I have never been trained to think like that"

ArthurM has connected.

MichaelAC says, "not a visual artist anywaay"

DanB says, "Someone did a research study on the relationship of colors to American emotions. When the economy is bad, marketers increase the use of blue in packaging for food items."

BJB says, "you should find the Dr. Seuss book, My Many Colored Days."

MichaelAC asks, "And blue signifies?"

BJB says, "It's a child's picture book, but gives you some idea of how color can be used to identify feelings"

DanB says, "Calm. I've checked this out, and found it to be true."

MichaelAC says, "I used to read Dr Seuss books to the kids but I don't remember that one."

ArthurM says, "The Phoenicians extracted purple dye from the murex shell and used it as a basis for the development of trade in the ancient Mediterranean."

ArthurM says, "so now we know."

BJB says, "I think of blue as freedom, but some people feel blue is how you feel when you're sad"

MichaelAC exclaims, "Thanks Arthur - now all we nedd to know is what a murex shell is!"

BJB [to Arthur]: "and the dye was very expensive...only royalty could afford it"

BJB . o O ( which is where royal purple comes from )

DanB exclaims, "Yes, I was surprised at the use of blue to induce calmness--and increase sales!"

ArthurM asks, "Different subject - Has anyone experience of WIMBA?"

ArthurM says, "www.wimba.com"

BJB says, "I listened to your's and Michael's messages...but I've not posted anything"

DanB says, "I listened to all the messages, but haven't bought a mic yet."

ArthurM says, "I was in County donegal this week with some MSc students, who have resoponded enthusiastically."

DanB asks, "To wimba?"

ArthurM says, "Vance had introduced me to it via ELTOC and WebHeads last month"

MichaelAC says, "Keep us posted Arthur. I keep tryint to get people to use it but so many don't have mikes and speakers"

ArthurM says, "you can see moreat www.arthurmckeown.com/wimba Use right click to access it."

DanB asks, "Did these students indicate why they were enthusiastic?"

ArthurM says, "Dan, because it has more immediacy than merely raw email."

SusanneN has arrived.
DiaLog follows SusanneN to here.
TimeLog follows SusanneN to here.

ArthurM says, "Though it will complement rather than replace email and discyussion obards"

SusanneN [busy in kitchen, coming soon!] hurries back to her duties

BJB [HelpDesk] hugs Susanne good day

ArthurM says, "And there seem to be some minor technical problems"

MichaelAC asks, "Wimba also has voice email. Have you tried that Arthur?"

ArthurM says, "but we are getting there"

DanB says, "I asked because I'm wondering if there isn't some use for business meetings, etc. for these communications."

ArthurM says, "Michael - yes, just a bit."

MichaelAC says, "Absloutely Dan"

ArthurM says, "YES Dan"

MichaelAC says, "brb"

ArthurM says, "You can agree a time, like WebHeads, wwhen folk can all be online at the same time."

DanB says, "Especially, I think, because of the WTC and also globalization."

ArthurM says, "And have folk seen www.u4all.com which uses Interwise technology for synchronous voice"

BJB says, "I'm going to put a url in the transcript for later...it's a great sight for learning about color and its effects"

BJB says, "http://www.colormatters.com/entercolormatters.html"

JohnSte has arrived.
White Book of Tarkin Ru follows JohnSte to here.

BJB [HelpDesk] waves hello to John

JohnSte says, "Hi, ya'll"

ArthurM says, "Thanks, BJB, I'll look later"

DanB says, "No, Arthur, I haven't seen that yet."

DanB asks, "Hi, John. Are you home yet?"

JohnSte says, "Yep. I'm using what has become my daughter's computer, and it is giving me mucho problemos."

ArthurM says, "Dan, it is worth investigating; keep in touch to discuss impressions, potential applications, etc."

DanB . o O ( I'm green with envy at BJ's multi-tasking abilities )

DanB says, "I certainly will, Arthur."

JohnSte says, "All I have here is tapped in - My daughter has reconfigured my computer drastically."

DanB says, "John's Spanish is improving. Must be Webheads."

JohnSte says, "Yep."

JohnSte says, "I'm only here for about an hour today. My wife wants me to go with her to visit some family this morning."

MichaelAC says, "I'm back"

DanB asks, "Is there any special topic on today's agenda?"

JohnSte says, "Hi, Michael."

MichaelAC says, "Hi ther John"

MichaelAC says, "No topic that i know of...."

BJB [to Dan]: "did you want to introduce a topic?"

DanB exclaims, "No, I just wondered. usually, my mind wanders all over the place!"

BJB says, "the link I showed earlier might be a good starter for a topic"

JohnSte asks, "What link is that, BJ?"

BJB says, "there is an interesting article where a person describes where he is and you are to guess his location"

BJB asks, "May I project or will that bump some of you offline?"

MichaelAC says, "Ok with me."

JohnSte says, "Ok with me, too"

DanB says, "Fine with me, too."

BJB says, "when you get the projection go to the feature article, culture matters"

BJB [HelpDesk] projects the URL: http://www.colormatters.com/entercolormatters.html

You hear a quiet popping sound; DanB [Away] has disconnected.

You hear a quiet popping sound; JohnSte [Webhead] has disconnected.

You hear a quiet popping sound; MichaelAC has disconnected.

BJB . o O ( aaaargghhh )

JohnSte has connected.

DanB has connected.

BJB says, "sorry, John and Dan"

BJB . o O ( welcome back )

ArthurM says, "I'm still here ..."

DanB says, "I'm back. Don't know what happened."

BJB [HelpDesk] cheers for Arthur. Did you get the projection?

JohnSte says, "Just right click and then open it in a new window. It really made tapped in look interesting, but I couldn't type anything."

ying has connected.

BJB says, "hi, Ying. welcome"

ArthurM says, "Yes, bjb"

ying [guest] says, "hi"

DanB says, "Looks like an informative site."

ArthurM says, "Ying, hello"

JohnSte says, "Hi, Ying Lan."

DanB says, "Hello, Ying1"

ying [guest] asks, "how are you today?"

BJB [to Dan]: "did you guess the nationality of the person who wrote the article?"

DanB asks, "No, I never got there. Which nation?"

ArthurM exclaims, "I have just seen the colour / science link, which ties in neatly with something I am working on in my day job - THNAKS!"

JohnSte says, "I'm fine. The site does look interesting, but I'm still reading it."

BJB [HelpDesk] smiles..you're welcome, Arthur

BJB [to Dan]: "go to http://www.colormatters.com/news_dec01/feature.html and read part 1"

BJB [to Dan]: "then link to part 2"

SusanneN looks heading for Webheads.

BJB [to Ying/Susanne]: "we're discussing color in language"

SusanneN says, "Jumps in and says hello to all"

SusanneN asks, "Colorful language?"

BJB [HelpDesk] nods to Susanne...that's part of it

SusanneN says, "I will have a check, must open my browser first"

JohnSte asks, "Hi, Sus. How are you today?"

BJB . o O ( lots of color links in my backflip page, btw )

BJB says, "http://www.backflip.com/members/bjberquist"

SusanneN asks, "Hi. John, back home :-)?"

JohnSte says, "Yep. I'm only online for a little while today, though."

JohnSte says, "I'm guessing Pakistan, although I'm pretty sure I'm wrong."

SusanneN says, "I was finishing a wonderful meal prepared by Hubby; the least I could do was to finish the dishes before I joined class :-)"

JohnSte says, "I have to go visit family with my wife later this morning."

MichaelAC has connected.

JohnSte says, "The site looks like something I can use with my students when I get back to giving class in August."

BJB exclaims, "welcome back, Michael!"

JohnSte says, "Welcome again, Michael."

MichaelAC exclaims, "That was intersting - the site loaded in here in the chat window!"

JohnSte says, "It did with me, too. I had to right click and open it in a new window."

BJB . o O ( part 3 of the cultural matters article explains some of the cultural interpretations of color )

MichaelAC says, "And I couldn't get it out without logging off."

SusanneN asks, "How weird, Michael; in the Tapestry window?"

MichaelAC says, "Yep"

JohnSte says, "Neither could I."

SusanneN [to BJ]: "I am still reading"

MichaelAC says, "Only when I hit the color matters link. The kothe site opened in a new window as usual"

MichaelAC says, "I mean the mother site.."

MichaelAC says, "It's a great article. Obviously colour is very inmportant in Pakistan."

MichaelAC asks, "Did anyone guess the country?"

BJB [HelpDesk] nods to Michael. I think color is important to all cultures.

SusanneN exclaims, "In China we saw weddings at our hotel - with pretty red brides!"

BJB says, "I didn't. I thought it was the American south west"

JohnSte says, "Yes, it is very important, even if people don't consciously recognize it."

DanB says, "Green, for example, has come to stand for the global environmental movement, I think."

You hear a quiet popping sound; MichaelAC has disconnected.

BJB [to Ying [guest]]: "are there words in your language that use color to show feelings?"

ying [guest] says, "Out traditional wedding grown is red, but In Taiwan, bride's grown is white now."

JohnSte says, "But here in PR it still has a connotation denoting a belief in Independence."

ying [guest] says, "We have been influenced by the west wedding custome."

MichaelAC has connected.

ying [guest] says, "We bride is still in red shoes."

MichaelAC says, "It did it again - very strange"

BJB [to Ying [guest]]: "white wedding gowns symbolize purity in the western culture."

JohnSte says, "Hmmm. Here brides usually where all white, even the shoes."

ying [guest] says, "our Bride is still in red shoes."

ying [guest] says, "We have to keep our traditional colour .. at least red shoes."

BJB asks, "what does red symbolize, Ying?"

SusanneN says, "Nods to Ying - in Hong Kong, we saw a lot of yioung Chinese women in white wedding gowns, they were lined up for photos at the beautiful culture house part of the harbourfront."

BJB . o O ( I know it is an important color in your culture )

ying [guest] says, "good things."

ying [guest] says, "more joyful."

SusanneN asks, "Happiness?"

BJB asks, "Red is important in your new year also...red envelopes for the children?"

SusanneN . o O ( so many Chinese movies have titles with RED in them, too. )

BJB . o O ( Venny was sharing some wonderful information last year )

ying [guest] says, "Because peopel only wear pure white clothes in funeral."

JohnSte says, "Well, many men here say weddings are also funerals."

ying [guest] says, "In our traditional custome."

BJB [HelpDesk] smirks at John

SusanneN says, "White is a color of sorrow for the dead in China, in Denmark people use black for sorrow (but now less than before)"

ying [guest] says, "John... but you have been married for over thirty years..."

SusanneN says, "Some Danes (population of Denmark ) are obsessed by red and white because our national banner is red& white; you will find a lot of litle danish banners for many celebrations, especially at birthdays."

SusanneN says, "We have a football cheeer..."

JohnSte says, "I didn't say I agree with them, Ying. I am very happy to be married."

SusanneN says, "We are red, we are white, we are Danish dynamite!""

BJB says, "color can be as important as words in communicating and we all need to be culturally sensitive to that issue"

MichaelAC smiles at Susanne

BJB [HelpDesk] pats the dynamite Susanne gently on the back lest she explode

VennyS has arrived.
Parrot follows VennyS to here.

VennyS [:)] bows gracefully.

DanB says, "I hope Susanne gets a mic so I can hear her Danish cheer."

BJB [HelpDesk] bows to Venny

JohnSte says, "That is something that is also discussed in many web-design classes. You should be careful that your background color does not have a negative meaning for other cultures."

JohnSte says, "Hi, Venny."

BJB [to VennyS]: "Ying was just telling us about the meaning of red and white in your culture"

ying [guest] asks, "Have you talked to Vance today?"

VennyS [:)] bows gracefully.

BJB [to Ying [guest]]: "Vance is on holiday"

DanB says, "I haven't read BJ's entire site yet, but I wonder if there isn't a neutral color that meetis John's cautionary note."

DanB . o O ( meets )

MichaelAC says, "I was wondering the same..."

SusanneN says, "Watching people leaving a football match in Denmark is like seeing a release from the madhouse or a carnival - they are all dressed up and face painted in incredible costumes according to their favorite club, shouting and cheering."

JohnSte says, "I never have found it, and I didn't finish the class, but I wonder it that is the reason many pages are light grey."

VennyS says, "in Peking opera, there is special character -- painted face character."

SusanneN exclaims, "Oh, hello Venny!"

BJB [HelpDesk] listens to Venny

VennyS says, "in the painted face characters, the red means loyalty"

ying [guest] says, "hello Venny"

JohnSte says, "Red is also a patriotic color in the States."

VennyS says, "in the painted face characters, the black is righteous"

SusanneN exclaims, "The opera masks are just incredible, as are their stories told mostly by body language (for those who do not understand the language!"

VennyS says, "the most intersting is the color white is crafty"

elizabeth has connected.

BJB says, "hi, Elizabeth. Welcome"

SusanneN says, "So when you see a character and his face color, you will already know who he is, loyal righteous or crafty"

JohnSte asks, "Can we help you, Elizabeth?"

VennyS says, "and the gold color represent godhood"

SusanneN [heading for Webheads] says hello to Elizabeth, welcome to tapped In

SusanneN looks webhead.

BJB [to VennyS]: "what about purple?"

elizabeth [guest] asks, "Glad to see something is going on- how does this collaboration work?"

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "are you here to explore TAPPED IN or join the webheads discussion?"

SusanneN says, "This is our Webhead Sunday class, right now discussing cultures and colors :-)"

VennyS [to SusanneN]: "but most of the time, there may be more than one color on their face:)"

elizabeth [guest] asks, "How about Irish Immigration?"

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "we're a polyglot group...I'm in Pennsylvania."

JohnSte says, "I'm in Puerto Rico."

elizabeth [guest] says, "I have a website on it"

SusanneN says, "Waves hello from Denmark, Europe"

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "what website? We were looking at Color Matters"

MichaelAC exclaims, "My grandparents weree Irish immigrants and I'm in Australia!"

JohnSte says, "My Dad's ancestors were Irish."

SusanneN asks, "I guess Elizabeth read a Webhead website?"

elizabeth [guest] says, "Http://www.udel.edu/soe/deal"

BJB [HelpDesk] wonders if Elizabeth would be kind enough to introduce herself and tell us where she is?

JohnSte says, "I'm going to guess that she is in Delaware (the States)."

VennyS [:)] waves

VennyS goes home.

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "I'm from Delaware and my mom and brother live in Middletown :-)"

elizabeth [guest] says, "Hi I am a doctoral student at the U. of Delaware-I have a project on Immigration for teacher collaboration- DEAL"

elizabeth [guest] asks, "Waht do yu teach BJB?"

BJB says, "cool, Elizabeth. I think you should get in touch with Phil Benz who leads the Euro Lang discussion group here"

JohnSte says, "Nice meeting you. I am a doctoral Student at Indiana Univesity of Pennsylvania, but I live and work in Puerto Rico/"

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "click on a person's icon to find out more about them"

SusanneN asks, "Nice to meet you! I am a graduate student of education, doing reserarch on informal community building among educators, online. Where did you hear about Tapped In?"

BJB [HelpDesk] wonders if Elizabeth knows Gina

MichaelAC says, "I will quietly exit at this point. I'm going to have an early night. Nice talking with you all."

MichaelAC waves goodbye

BJB [HelpDesk] waves goodnight to Michael

JohnSte says, "See you, Michael."

DanB says, "Bye, Michael."

BJB says, "thanks for joining us"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MichaelAC has disconnected.

elizabeth [guest] says, "From my prof I amwinding-up my term paper today -we are on the same topic"

JohnSte says, "I'll be leaving soon, too."

DanB says, "Bye, John."

JohnSte says, "I still have about 10 minutes before I leave."

DanB says, "Oh, sorry. I thought you were off immediately."

JohnSte asks, "Is your prof a member of Tapped In?"

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "have you looked at any information about the webheads group?"

elizabeth [guest] says, "I like the on-line talk here."

elizabeth [guest] says, "No nt yet - tell me what hot."

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "I would like to show you a web page that Phil and his group are working on...they have a travel agency in the Viv@ Village"

elizabeth [guest] says, "Ok"

JohnSte says, "OK, with me, BJ."

BJB . o O ( then we'll let the webheads tell you about their group )

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "I'm going to project a url"

BJB says, "when I do a new browser window will pop open for you"

elizabeth [guest] says, "ok"

BJB says, "you can look, bookmark and close..you'll still be connected here so come back to the text window when you're ready"

BJB [HelpDesk] projects Viv@. http://www.ardecol.ac-grenoble.fr/viva/index.htm

DavidW has connected.

JohnSte says, "Hmmm. This looks familiar."

DavidW waves to BJB [HelpDesk], ArthurM, SusanneN [webhead], JohnSte [Webhead], DanB, ying [guest], and elizabeth [guest].

BJB [HelpDesk] waves hi to David

DavidW [to BJB]: "Morning"

JohnSte says, "Hi, David,"

DanB waves to David

DavidW says, "Hi"

elizabeth [guest] says, "Nice art on front page"

BJB says, "the rooms link to message boards"

BJB says, "the copabacana was designed by a class in Brazil"

elizabeth [guest] says, "I have meesageing on DEAL but it needs improvement."

JohnSte says, "Well, my wife is signalling me that it is time for me to leave. See you all next week."

DavidW grins.

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "you might want to collaborate with the Euro Lang group...."

SusanneN says, "Bye,, John, enjoy the holida"

BJB [to John]: "have a good week"

JohnSte says, "OK, Thanks, Sus."

DavidW [to JohnSte]: "See ya"

DanB waves to John

You hear a quiet popping sound; JohnSte [Webhead] has disconnected.

BJB [to Elizabeth [guest]]: "the Euro Lang group meets on Tuesday at 3pm EST"

elizabeth [guest] exclaims, "ot to get this d--- term paper in today see you again!"

DavidW says, "Good luck"

SusanneN says, "Bye Elizabeth"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves bye to Elizabeth. Nice meeting you.

DanB waves to Elizabeth

SusanneN says, "Better do some more writing, that's for sure :-)"

DavidW exclaims, "Yeah!"

DavidW grins.

BJB [HelpDesk] looks around the room to see who is still here

DavidW hugs SusanneN [webhead].

DavidW grins.

DanB raises his hand

SusanneN [webhead] raises her hand

DavidW looks at DanB.

DavidW wonders, left or right hand.

SusanneN . o O ( How does Vance count noses? )

DanB left hand

DavidW . o O ( One nostril at a time? )

SusanneN [webhead] th david is nosy!

DavidW says, "So to speak."

BJB [to Ying [guest]]: "I enjoyed the information that you shared on color...do you have any resources on that that we can look at?"

DavidW [to DanB]: "I figured."

DanB smirks

SusanneN exclaims, "/th David IS nosy!"

DavidW . o O ( There are nice colors in NYC this morning )

DavidW . o O ( So to "exclaim"? )

DavidW [to SusanneN]: "Pardon me for BREATHING!"

DanB says, "It's pretty drab here, David. Gray, overcast skies."

DavidW nods.

SusanneN [webhead] wonders if Ying may be at some other chatroom at the same time?

DavidW says, "We had a couple of days of drizzly, rainy weather. It's gotten cooler, but appropriate for December. It's rather nice to have a chill in the iar."

ying [guest] says, "No... i am very tired now."

DavidW . o O ( air )

DanB says, "Ah, yes. Intuitive chaos management, Susanne."

SusanneN asks, "Ying Lan, how is the Taiwan weather forecast?"

DavidW offers ying [guest] some hot tea.

You hear a quiet popping sound; ArthurM has disconnected.

ying [guest] says, "I have not paied attention about news for a long time."

SusanneN [webhead] pours a jar of fresh water over Ying's head to keep her awake

ying [guest] says, "It seems will be warm and dry..."

DavidW nods.

SusanneN [to Ying [guest]]: "Are you busy packing for the US adventures?"

ying [guest] says, "Not yet... I have not gotten my working visa..."

ying [guest] says, "I am waiting...."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_76 [guest] has lost its link.

SusanneN asks, "Oh, the visa is the last thing to get in order?"

ying [guest] says, "I took four days off last week, but I had my cell phone on. I have not received any phone calls from my coworkers."

ying [guest] says, "I only need to pack my clothes.. it is easy."

ying [guest] says, "I bought 4 paris shoes today in morning markets."

DanB asks, "How long will you be working in the US, Ying?"

SusanneN exclaims, "My daughter had a problem to get her visa ready when she left for Mexico, she finally got it on the vey day before she was leaving!"

ying [guest] says, "only one year."

DavidW says, "Visas are a pain, often"

SusanneN says, "Only four pairs of shoes, did you not have any useful shoes at all :-))"

DavidW says, "My mother had to work very hard to get hers."

SusanneN asks, "How many kilos of luggage can you bring with you?"

ying [guest] says, "I don't know...."

DavidW thinks about getting some coffee.

DavidW says, "See you all later."

DavidW waves bye to BJB [HelpDesk], SusanneN [webhead], DanB, and ying [guest].

DavidW hugs BJB [HelpDesk].

BJB [HelpDesk] hugs David bye

DanB waves left hand

ying [guest] says, "I will ask the travel agency when I get the tickets."

DavidW says, "Ciao"

You hear a quiet popping sound; DavidW has disconnected.

ying [guest] says, "hello David."

ying [guest] says, "he is gone."

DanB exclaims, "I'm off also. Have a good week everyone!"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves bye to Dan. You too.

SusanneN exclaims, "Bye, Dan!"

You hear a quiet popping sound; DanB has disconnected.

JamesSi has connected.

MargaretD arrives from nowhere.
MargaretD's personal recorder follows MargaretD to here.

SusanneN says, "We might see our dear Maggi here soon"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves hi to Maggi

SusanneN exclaims, "There she is! Welcome, Maggi!"

BJB says, "hi, James"

JamesSi says, "Hi everyone"

SusanneN says, "And welcome to james, too"

MargaretD says, "Hi everyone"

JamesSi says, "Hi Susanne"

BJB says, "we had a lively group of webheads here earlier, but they are now gone, Maggi and James"

JamesSi says, "I'm just here for a few minutes to wish everyone a very happy Christmas"

MargaretD says, "I get sent automatically to my office first"

BJB [to Maggi]: "would you prefer landing here when you log in?"

SusanneN says, "Is nobody doing anything parallel with other technologies today? Amazing"

MargaretD says, "I know how to do that BJB but thanks"

BJB [HelpDesk] nods to Maggi

JamesSi says, "I'm sorry I missed the chat earlier. I had to go shopping! It's about the only time we had free before we go away for the holiday."

BJB says, "happy holidays to you, too, James"

SusanneN asks, "How is your back, Maggi, better now I hope?"

MargaretD says, "Merry Christmas to you too James"

SusanneN says, "James, you will have to read the log instead"

SusanneN exclaims, "Merry christmas, James!"

MargaretD says, "yes Susanne it is...hurts less"

ying [guest] says, "Hi. Maggi..."

ying [guest] says, "Are you o.k.? I have not seen you for two weeks."

MargaretD asks, "hi Ying...how are you?"

ying [guest] says, "or three weeks. I can not remember."

ying [guest] says, "I am tired now..."

JamesSi says, "I won't be here for a couple of weeks now; we're off to Spain next Saturday to visit Mary's family and then to Wales at New Year for a week or so, where it's not always easy to get to a computer."

MargaretD says, "I'm fine Ying"

SusanneN [to Maggi]: "No fun to feel bad during the holiday, you'd better recover quickly"

JamesSi asks, "Have you been working hard, Ying?"

ying [guest] says, "I heard that Your back was killing you..."

ying [guest] says, "No...."

SusanneN [to James]: "Enjoyyour travelling!"

ying [guest] says, "Just need some sleep..."

ying [guest] says, "Jame,,, have a nice trip."

MargaretD exclaims, "lol...it didn't kill me but it sure hurt!"

SusanneN asks, "You know what the work *killing* means in Danish?"

MargaretD says, "have a safe trip James...there's a cold front down here"

ying [guest] says, "Wa..."

JamesSi says, "It's pretty cold and miserable here as well."

BJB [HelpDesk] listens to Susanne tell us what "killing" means in Danish

MargaretD says, "so what else is new....-)"

SusanneN says, "Kids do not believe it when they hear the English meaning - a *kitten* could never be a killer"

SusanneN [webhead] smirks (like BJ does now and then)

ying [guest] asks, "kitten is a young cat, isn't it?"

JamesSi says, "That's right, Ying."

MargaretD asks, "yes...so it is killing in Danish Susanne?"

ying [guest] says, "I did not get it..."

SusanneN says, "Yes, a young cat is called a *killing* in Danish, but a cat is just a *kat*"

JamesSi says, "I'd better go and get ready..."

ying [guest] says, "me, too."

SusanneN asks, "In German it is Katzchen I think?"

JamesSi says, "Some German friends of ours have invited us for a gluhwein party."

MargaretD exclaims, "ok James...ho ho ho and off you go!"

BJB [HelpDesk] smiles...sounds festive, James.

JamesSi says, "Auf Wiedersehen..."

MargaretD says, "yes Susanne..ktzchen"

SusanneN says, "In Denmark as well, people often serve Gloegg in december (like Gluhwein)"

JamesSi exclaims, "Froliche Weinachten!"

MargaretD says, "oops...the umlauts don't work here"

SusanneN [to Maggi]: "Tapped In does not support umlauts"

You hear a quiet popping sound; JamesSi [Webhead] has disconnected.

SusanneN [webhead] grins, we're twins

ying [guest] says, "my dear firends, I have to go now."

BJB [HelpDesk] thinks it's time to go get the laundry started and breakfast made

ying [guest] says, "Nice to talk to you."

SusanneN exclaims, "Dear Ying, see you soon!"

BJB [HelpDesk] bows to Ying..sleep well.

ying [guest] says, "see you next weeks."

MargaretD says, "bye Ying and sweet dreams ^^-^^"

ying [guest] says, "Take care ... for maggi."

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Webheads chat logs from December 16, 2001

Last updated: December 28, 2001 in Hot Metal Pro 6.0