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Webheads chat logs from October 28, 2001

Meet the people in the chat today

Vance Maggi Michael John Ying Lan Felix Susanne Peter Yaodong An-Lian Arif Sue
UAE Germany Australia Pennsylvania Taiwan Brazil Denmark Japan Liuzhou, PRC Wuhan, PRC Turkey Japan
BJB [Webhead] in Pennsylvania, and visitors to Tapped In Dan, Fan [Luisa], Chris, and Matthew

Find where everyone first joined the chat: Vance | BJB | John | Maggi | Dan | An-Lian | Luisa/Fan | Yaodong | Ying Lan | Michael | Rif | Peter | Susanne | Felix | Chris | Matthew | | Sue

Ever the organizer, Susanne had declared that today's Webheads class would take the form of a Halloween party. She announced the event in advance, some emails were exchanged, and Webheads were encouraged to arrive in Halloween costumes. John the 7-headed monster won the prize for the most imaginative costume. While waiting for all the guests to arrive, some of us went into the voice chat, where Vance ran his web cam as much as his computer would tolerate the drain on its resources. This and the fact that someone had spiked the cider (that is, put 'virtual' alcohol in the drink we were serving) distracted us from properly warning newcomers to our group about the party that was getting started. We were having so much fun enjoying ourselves in chaos navigation that by the time we moved up to Vance's office, not everyone in our group was acting strictly academic (apologies from yours truly). Thus one newcomer left us without being able to properly assimilate what he was experiencing, although others who remained on to the end praised our creative fun-making and agreed that it might have some application to language teaching and learning.

<Top> Tapped In chat logs | The text side to Yahoo VOICE chat | Vance finds Rif on ICQ | Peter spots Vance's web cam on Yahoo | Felix in ICQ | Sue checks in (next day) on Yahoo

Tapped In chat logs

Connected to TAPPED IN on Sun Oct 28 03:27:43 2001 PST.

VanceS says, "audit /all"

VanceS teleports to the reception.

Stopped recording in VanceS's Office (#12249) at Sun Oct 28 03:34:11 2001 PST.

Started recording in Reception (#268)[TappedIn] at Sun Oct 28 03:34:11 2001 PST.

BJB has arrived.

BJ's Shadow follows BJB to here.

BJB waves good day to Vance

VanceS [Webhead] smilesses.

VanceS says, "hi"

VanceS says, "seems to be working today"

BJB nods...lots of scrambling yesterday...a programming problem

BJB says, "but all is fixed now."

VanceS [Webhead] smiles

VanceS says, "I guess we'd better put on our costumes"

VanceS says, "I'll try some on"

VanceS looks spider.

VanceS [spider] tries on a spider man costume

BJB chuckles...that look is good for you!

VanceS says, "it's a bit tight"

VanceS says, "sticky too"

BJB looks at all the rippling muscles

VanceS says, "how do you get this stuff off you; yuk"

BJB says, "I'm going to have to forward an email I got yesterday that I think you'll really appreciate"

VanceS says, "ok"

VanceS [spider] likes email sometimes

BJB . o O ( it's on its way )

JohnSte has arrived.

White Book of Tarkin Ru follows JohnSte to here.

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] waves to all.

BJB says, "I have Yaodong on yahoo and he's asking about using voice."

BJB waves hi to John.

JohnSte says, "Hi, ya'll"

VanceS says, "Hi John"

VanceS [spider] wonders if John is wearing a costume

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] projects JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes].


You see a 7-1/2 foot (2-1/3 meter) tall, brown, cylindrical shaped being with four long arm-like appendages located near, but somewhat below, the top of the cylinder. Each arm is 90 degrees for the arms on each side of it and ends in two hands. Each hand has seven long limble digits. At the top of the cylinder are seven flexible eye-stalks. The eyes move individually to allow the being to look at up to seven different things at the same time.

JohnSte asks, "Does that answer you?"

VanceS [spider] hides under the helpdesk

VanceS says, "Not bad"

JohnSte says, "Don't worry, he's friendly (and a vegetarian)."

BJB thinks Vance will be proud of BJ the chaos navigator....I'm talking to John in one yahoo window, Yaodong in another yahoo window, and am here in TAPEPD IN

BJB watches her fingers fly

JohnSte says, "We are all proud of you, BJB."

VanceS [spider] is proud of BJ the chaos navigator

VanceS says, "I'll have to get in the voice chat then"

BJB feels very chaotic!

VanceS asks, "would someone like to invite me?"

BJB asks, "how do you do that, Vance?"

MargaretD arrives from nowhere.

MargaretD's personal recorder follows MargaretD to here.

VanceS says, "Hi Maggi"

JohnSte says, "Actually, I'm still setting up. Have to plug in my mic and earphones."

JohnSte says, "Hi, Maggi."

MargaretD says, "Hi"

BJB says, "I'm asing Yaodong to invite you, Vance"

BJB [to VanceS]: "what is your yahoo id?"

VanceS says, "In your conversation window there should be a place to invite new people"

VanceS says, "jjcyd? I'm vance_stevens"

VanceS says, "I could start one. Sometimes it works best just to start a fresh one"

VanceS says, "John's got it" <Follow Vance to the Yahoo VOICE chat>

BJB says, "it's a little loud"

VanceS says, "bj's in it"

BJB [to John]: "can you invite jjcyd?"

BJB says, "sounds ok to me, Vance"

DanB has arrived.

Seeing Eye follows DanB to here.

DanB waves to all

BJB exclaims, "hi, Dan!"

DanB says, "Hi, BJ"

BJB asks, "are you here for the webheads group, Dan?"

DanB says, "No. Sorry for the disturbance, didn't realize there was a group going on."

MargaretD says, "Hi Dan"

DanB waves to MargeretD

VanceS says, "Hi Dan, no worries. We don't bite"

BJB [to Dan]: "you're welcome to join us. We're having a Halloween party today"

BJB waves hi to Maggi

VanceS says, "that's why we're all dressed up"

DanB says, "Good to hear, Vance"

BJB says, "good morning, Lian"

LianA finds her way in.

LianA's personal recorder follows LianA to here.

DanB [to BJB]: "I think I'll join your group; thanks for the invite."

VanceS says, "Hi Lian"

VanceS [spider] smiles

LianA says, "hi,vance and bjb"

BJB exclaims, "cool, Dan!"

LianA [happy] bows to them

LianA asks, "vance, are you have meeting on yahoo? pls invite me ok?"

BJB [to Lian]: "you're in" <Follow Lian to Yahoo VOICE chat>

DanB . o O ( wish I would have costumed up )

MargaretD says, "Hi Lian"

Luisa has connected.

BJB says, "hi, Luisa. Welcome to TAPPED IN"

VanceS asks, "ok, Dan would you like to join us in Voice chat? Anyone else?"

BJB [to Luisa [guest]]: "may I help you?"

Luisa [guest] says, "hi, BJB. i am new here"

DanB says, "Unfamiliar with voice chat, Vince."

Luisa [guest] says, "my interface is very small here"

BJB [to Luisa [guest]]: "click on DETACH in the middle right of your screen"

VanceS says, "Hi all, this is the weekly Webheads session. Everyone is welcome."

BJB . o O ( that will make your text window larger )

Luisa [guest] says, "that small box? well, it's now grey. invalid"

Luisa [guest] says, "o_O"

JohnSte says, "Check if the dialogue box is behind it."

BJB drops 2001/10/28 Webheads Halloween Party (recording).

Luisa [guest] asks, "hi, VanceS. can you tell me what the session is about?"

BJB [to Luisa [guest]]: "are you still with us?"

Luisa [guest] says, "yes, BJB. i am here"

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] projects JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes].


You see a 7-1/2 foot (2-1/3 meter) tall, brown, cylindrical shaped being with four long arm-like appendages located near, but somewhat below, the top of the cylinder. Each arm is 90 degrees for the arms on each side of it and ends in two hands. Each hand has seven long limble digits. At the top of the cylinder are seven flexible eye-stalks. The eyes move individually to allow the being to look at up to seven different things at the same time.

BJB [to Luisa [guest]]: "are you a teacher? Are you here for the Webheads discussion?"

Luisa [guest] says, "YD invited me to come. I am an English teacher in China"

LianA says, "hi,simple"

LianA says, "this is Lian here."

JohnSte says, "Welcome, Luisa."

VanceS says, "Hi Luisa, welcome"

Luisa [guest] says, "hi, An. :)"

Luisa [guest] asks, "hey, guys, how can i speak to a specific person?"

DanB says, "Hi, Luisa"

LianA [happy] bows to simple

Luisa [guest] suddenly disappears.

BJB . o O ( oops ) <Jump to what's going on in Yahoo VOICE chat right now and see a screen view>

DanB asks, "Are most of the people here regular attendees for Webheads?"

JohnSte says, "Looks like it, Dan"

Luisa [guest] has arrived.

DanB says, "Since I'm new, here's my introduction..."

BJB says, "welcome back, Luisa"

DanB projects Introduction.


Hello, my name is Dan Bilitz, a member of Tappedin. I'm also an Assistant Professor, teaching marketing and management courses at a small Lutheran liberal arts college in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. My research interests focus on undergraduate business education, and the role that technology can play in the educational process. 


Luisa [guest] says, "hi, guys"

LianA says, "hi, simple if yu want to speak to a person you use /wh sb sth"

BJB says, "that is to speak privately to a person"

BJB says, "if you want to address a comment to a person type /to name and your message"

BJB [to Lian]: "so it looks like this"

LianA says, "if you want to speak to sb, then go to her room with her."

Luisa [guest] says, "to BJB thanks"

BJB says, "Yaodong is going to join us"

MargaretD says, "I teach Business English in-company in Germany Dan."

JohnSte says, "good"

YaodongC Yaodong enjoys being with you.

YaodongC's personal recorder follows YaodongC to here.

DanB says, "Great to meet you, Margaret."

LianA says, "hi, yaodongc"

BJB waves hi to Yaodong

Luisa [guest] [to BJB]: "hi"

YaodongC exclaims, "hi, all!"

DanB waves to Yaodong

YaodongC [helpdesk] bows gracefully.

Luisa [guest] says, "to bjb hi~~~~~~~~~~~~"

BJB says, "I'm an art teacher in Pennsylvania and a staff for TAPPED IN"

Luisa [guest] says, "to YaodongC hi~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"

JohnSte says, "I'm a full professor of ESL at the University of Puerto Rico at Aguadilla."

MargaretD says, "I am also a teacher here with Webheads."

JohnSte says, "But I'm on sabbatical in Pennsylvania right now."

YaodongC says, "I am a teacher in guangxi , China."

VanceS looks webhead.

LianA says, "hehehehe"

VanceS [webhead] is a webhead

Luisa [guest] says, "I am an English teacher in Nanjing, China. I am a newcomer here and wish to learn educational technology"

YaodongC [helpdesk] whiper bjb what is webhead?

Luisa [guest] asks, "to Johnste are you Jewish?"

JohnSte says, "No, I am French-Irish"

JohnSte says, "and English, Native American, and a few others."

YaodongC asks, "what is the topic today?"

VanceS asks, "Good question, Dong. Should I 'show' you our url?"

BJB says, "A webhead is an international learner of languages"

JohnSte says, "If I was a dog I would be a mutt."

Luisa [guest] says, "to Johunste sounds so complicated. i am only Chinese"

YaodongC [helpdesk] nods

MargaretD says, "lol"

BJB says, "we are having a Halloween party today, Yaodong :-)"

JohnSte says, "It is common in the States for people to be of mixed backgrounds."

LianA says, "Halloween party, that is wonderful"

YaodongC [helpdesk] jumps with delight.

LianA [happy] giggles

YaodongC [helpdesk] smiles broadly.

DanB . o O ( What have I gotten myself into this morning? )

BJB says, "Susuanne has been busy preparing lots of surprises for us"

BJB grins at Dan

MargaretD says, "welcome to chaos Dan"

DanB . o O ( Oh, great; more chaos. )

YaodongC says, "page lianA i have told my students about you."

Luisa [guest] asks, "shall we talk in kinda meeting room ,not in reception?"

MichaelAC has connected.

VanceS [webhead] shows YaodongC the URL:

JohnSte says, "Hi, Michael, Long time."

BJB says, "we usually meet for a little while here in reception, Luisa"

BJB says, "later we will move to the webhead office"

MargaretD says, "Hi mc"

MichaelAC says, "Ho John, and others"

BJB says, "hi, Mike"

DanB says, "Hi, Michael"

Luisa [guest] says, "hi, Michael"

JohnSte asks, "How's the change in time down in OZ?"

MargaretD asks, "Ho?"

MichaelAC says, "We went one hour forward tooday"

JohnSte says, "We went one hour back."

MargaretD says, "pasttea time..."

MichaelAC says, "(ho was meant to be hi!)"

VanceS says, "Hi Michael"

JohnSte says, "We used to use Ho a lot when I was younger."

YaodongC [helpdesk] whisper liana my students are looking at your picture.

Luisa [guest] asks, "ho? means hollo?"

MargaretD . o O ( I thought you were too old for sounding punkish )

MichaelAC says, "We still use hi here, and never ho or hey."

DanB says, "I'm disappointed. I bobbed for an apple, but didn't get anything but wet hair."

MichaelAC asks, "So where are all the costumes - or is that for later?"

MargaretD says, "lol"

BJB [to Mike]: "type /id danb"

MargaretD says, "hey in Denmark means hi"

JohnSte says, "Here's mine, Michael"

MichaelAC says, "I didn't have time to find one."

BJB . o O ( and id johnste )

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] projects JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes].


You see a 7-1/2 foot (2-1/3 meter) tall, brown, cylindrical shaped being with four long arm-like appendages located near, but somewhat below, the top of the cylinder. Each arm is 90 degrees for the arms on each side of it and ends in two hands. Each hand has seven long limble digits. At the top of the cylinder are seven flexible eye-stalks. The eyes move individually to allow the being to look at up to seven different things at the same time.

DanB . o O ( Wonder if apple cider has been spiked. )

MargaretD . o O ( wonder what happens when he gets crosss-eyed )

JohnSte says, "Hope so, Dan."

MichaelAC exclaims, "Oh...imaginary costumes!"

VanceS says, "I'll put on my costume"

BJB laughs at the thought of all the eyes crossing

VanceS looks FRANKENSTEIN!!!.


rif has connected.

BJB screams with fright

DanB asks, "wh BJB Now, I know what I've missed all these months. How do you moderate a group like this?"

BJB says, "hi, rif. Welcome"

VanceS says, "Hi Rif"

JohnSte asks, "I'm not sure how to say it, Maggi - you know, double vision times seven?"

DanB says, "Hi, Rif."

rif [guest] says, "hi to everybody..."

MargaretD says, "don't get all in a stitch Vance"

JohnSte says, "Hi, Rif."

MargaretD says, "tHi rif"

VanceS asks, "Rif, you got hit with a virus? What kind?"

JohnSte asks, "You personally, Rif? or your computer?"

VanceS [FRANKENSTEIN!!!] raises his arms and wiggles his fingers scarileeeee

rif [guest] says, "It is called Sircam, the one which was very active in the last couple of weeks."

VanceS asks, "Is everyone wearing a costume?"

BJB holds up a wooden cross

JohnSte says, "Ah, yes. the Sircam virus. ugh."

DanB asks, "wh BJB I wasn't familiar with Webheads. Are these folks learning different languages?"

rif [guest] says, "My computers,"

YaodongC says, "we don't know what to wear."

DanB says, "Sorry, Vance. I came unadorned."

MichaelAC says, "Me too"

YaodongC asks, "page liana are u ready jfor the party?"

MargaretD says, "the students want to improve their English"

JohnSte [to Dan]: "Some of us are teaching English, others are learning English,"

BJB says, "can you show Dan the webheads webpage, Vance"

Luisa [guest] says, "hi, rif. i got sircam in my computer. whenever i try to activate a program, the system stops me for that"

rif [guest] says, "well, there is a simple way to get rid of it,"

rif [guest] says, "but it was late for me to do that :-)) I already cleaned up by formatting my HDs"

You hear a quiet popping sound; YaodongC [helpdesk] has disconnected.

Luisa [guest] says, "my firewall got the rirus, so each time i have to closse my online monitor to activate a program. it's dangerous"

VanceS [FRANKENSTEIN!!!] shows DanB the URL:

Luisa [guest] [to VanceS]: "why are you Frankenstein? Science Monster?"

Peter has connected.

BJB says, "hi, Peter. Welcome to the party"

MargaretD says, "Hi Peter"

DanB exclaims, "Thanks, Vance. I took a quick glance through. What a beautiful group of people!"

BJB [to Dan]: "this group meets here every Sunday at 7am EST"

JohnSte says, "12 noon GMT"

MargaretD says, "not allof them though"

BJB nods

BJB [to Peter [guest]]: "can you introduce yourself to our new participants?"

DanB says, "I've booked marked the site and need to study it more carefully."

BJB says, "you too, Michael"

VanceS [FRANKENSTEIN!!!] thanks Dan

BJB asks, "Dan, have you introduced yourself to the group?"

MargaretD . o O ( is Dan confused now )

JohnSte exclaims, "Controlled Chaos!"

VanceS says, "I think Dan did."

DanB says, "No, Margaret. BJ, I projected my Introduction before."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_7 [guest] has disconnected.

BJB thinks BJ is being swallowed by chaos :-(

MichaelAC says, "For those who don't know me, I am one of the webhead teachers, and I live in Australia."

VanceS says, "same with me, and I'm in Abu Dhabi"

MargaretD says, "I'm in Germany"

rif [guest] says, "I am in Turkey"

JohnSte says, "I live in Puerto Rico but am currently in Pennsylvania."

Luisa [guest] says, "I am in Nanjing, China"

LianA says, "I am in China"

LianA says, "in Wuhan ,Hubei province"

rif [guest] asks, "LianA, where is Wuhan located in China?"

DanB asks, "Do you usually hold your meetings here in Reception?"

JohnSte says, "For about the first hour, yes."

LianA says, "almost in the middle of China,rif"

SusanneN makes a noiseless entry from a distant place you cannot reach

DiaLog follows SusanneN to here.

TimeLog follows SusanneN to here.

Luisa [guest] says, "Wuhan is in the middle of Yangzse River"

DanB says, "Hi, Suzzane"

BJB hugs Susanne

SusanneN says, "Hello"

rif [guest] says, "hi there"

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] hugs BJ

LianA says, "Wuhan is beautiful , several days ago, Linda came to visit wuhan."

BJB exclaims, "I love your costume, Susanne!"

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] waves to rif

MichaelAC says, "If I am not paying attention it's because I'm also in Yahoo...."

JohnSte says, "So am I."

SusanneN says, "Thank you, BJ - I'm not really dressed up yet"

rif [guest] asks, "what is it like to live in Wuhan? Can you tell us a bit of Wuhan?"

DanB Sips spiked cider a lot <Jump to this place in the Yahoo VOICE chat>

MargaretD says, "lol"

LianA says, "yes, it is a bit hot in the summer yet it is a little cold in the winter, but generally speaking, it is quite ok to live in wuhan."

MargaretD . o O ( I have to try it )

Luisa [guest] says, "LianA, haha, these two factors are ]already terrible"

VanceS [FRANKENSTEIN!!!] waves to Susanne

Luisa [guest] says, "Wuhan is even hotter than Nanjing"

MargaretD . o O ( before Dan drinks all )

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] prepares a large pumpkin pie.

LianA says, "but if you have a peaceful mind, you will think it is quite suitable to live."

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] walscomes mr. Frankenstein in person

DanB . o O ( DanB loves pumkin pie and schpiked chider )

SusanneN . o O ( fast typing her usual typos )

rif [guest] says, "cool. I am browsing some web pages about Wuhan -- so it is a capital city."

LianA says, "cool is a state of mind, in my opinion, not only because of the weather, and wuhan ppl are very kind, that is the most important thing."

MargaretD . o O ( or the spiked cider )

SusanneN exclaims, "Nice to mmet you Dan the Elk!"

Felix has connected.

JohnSte says, "Hi, Felix."

BJB exclaims, "hi, Felix. Welcome to the party!"

MargaretD says, "Hi Feliy"

VanceS says, "Hi Felix"

MargaretD says, "ooops"

Felix [guest] says, "Hi all"

YaodongC Yaodong enjoys being with you.

YaodongC's personal recorder follows YaodongC to here.

SusanneN says, "Hello Felix, welcome"

DanB says, "Thanks, Susanne. The Elk was was really supposed to be Bullwinkle the Moose."

Felix [guest] asks, "Is everybody here on costumes?"

BJB says, "welcome back, Yaodong"

DanB says, "Hi, Felix"

VanceS [FRANKENSTEIN!!!] wonders where Felix's costume is ...

SusanneN says, "Hi Yaodong"

YaodongC says, "sorry i was disconnected."

MargaretD . o O ( must be the cider )

LianA says, "welcome back yaodongc."

Felix [guest] says, "Actually I am on summer costumes LOL"

YaodongC says, "nice jot meet you , SusannE"

YaodongC [helpdesk] whisper i was told you had prepared for a party?

Luisa [guest] says, "felix, you are cute"

VanceS says, "Hi dong"

DanB . o O ( Wonder if they'll mind if I stuck my finger in the whipped cream )

MargaretD asks, "birthday suit Felix?"

Felix [guest] asks, "Thanks Luisa. But where did you take this idea from?"

Felix [guest] says, "Not.. Bathing suit Mad.. I just got up"

YaodongC says, "i have ot reboot so that we can hear vance in yahoo messenger. back soon."

Luisa [guest] [to Felix [guest]]: "you are in summer suit or birthday suit? o_O"

VanceS asks, "hey who stuck his finger in the cream??"

Felix [guest] asks, "Are you in Yahoo messenger?"

MargaretD exclaims, "only if you lick your finger first Dan!"

DanB says, "Guilty, your honor."

YaodongC says, "yes i am"

JohnSte says, "Yes. We have a nice little group there, Felix."

BJB will pass on the pie

LianA [happy] giggles

VanceS says, "yes we are"

Felix [guest] says, "I am wearing just an underwear... Not horny but it's because it's damn hot here"

VanceS exclaims, "that's a very scary costume!!"

MichaelAC says, "Very attractive Felix"

Felix [guest] says, "and I am here to join our group John"

VanceS says, "Hey Felix, we've been showing our web cams in Yahoo"

MichaelAC says, "Not scary at all."

VanceS says, "I got the idea from you"

Felix [guest] says, "Please MC, don't get in love LOL"

VanceS asks, "have you still got yours?"

Felix [guest] asks, "Are you still doing it Vance?"

DanB . o O ( Begins to understand Chaos Theory much better now. )

MichaelAC says, "I'll try Felix. I'll try"

Felix [guest] says, "I have to install my yahoo again."

Felix [guest] says, "Ok MC.. LOL"

Felix [guest] asks, "Who has Webcams here?"

MargaretD says, "Felix is in Brazil Dan"

DanB says, "Cool."

MargaretD exclaims, "hot according to him!"

DanB . o O ( Perhaps, I should have said Hot )

Felix [guest] says, "Yeah Mad"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SusanneN [Tinkerbell] has lost her link.

LianA says, "poor sue"

JohnSte says, "lost her. . ."

Felix [guest] asks, "Where is everybody from here?"

MargaretD . o O ( at least she didn't lose her lid )

BJB says, "hopefully, Susanne will log back in shortly"

DanB . o O ( The bane of the Intenet. )

SusanneN has connected.

DanB says, "Felix, I'm from Wisconsin, USA."

LianA says, "welcome back, Sue."

BJB says, "welcome back, Susanne"

You hear a quiet popping sound; YaodongC [helpdesk] has disconnected.

Felix [guest] asks, "What about you Liana and Susanne?"

DanB says, "Welcome, back, Tinkerbell."

SusanneN says, "Was my connection gone or what? I dunno"

LianA says, "I am in Wuhan, China."

Felix [guest] says, "Where is Ying?? Long time no see her"

MargaretD asks, "Is it cold now in Wisconson?"

DanB says, "Yes, we thought you had taken your pumkin pie and left us."

JohnSte says, "She was in Yahoo for a while."

SusanneN asks, "Lian, do you have any similar tradition to the Hallowe'en in China?"

DanB says, "Margaret, it's about 46 degrees F. right now; not too bad yet."

MargaretD says, "brrrrr"

DanB asks, "Could someone explain the Yahoo connection to me?"

LianA says, "no, we don't have halloween holiday, but we have Mid-autumn festival that is special."

Felix [guest] says, "LOL"

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] to Liam, would you tell us about it?

LianA says, "yahoo messenger is very magic, i can hear vance clearly and all the ppl."

MargaretD says, "colder than the 16C here"

Felix [guest] asks, "Are you in Yahoo??"

BJB [to Dan]: "some of us are on Yahoo voice you have yahoo im?"

DanB asks, "Im?"

LianA says, "yes, we usually go boating to admire the moon in the evening// yes i am in yahoo."

Felix [guest] exclaims, "I will try to get it!!"

BJB [to Susanne]: "are you ready to go to Vance's office for the party?"

JohnSte says, "Instant Messenger"

DanB says, "Ah...thanks."

SusanneN says, "Oh, I see, the fun is in the voice channel. I really have to make mose savings to get that new computer."

VanceS says, "we're all talking about you in Yahoo voice chat"

MichaelAC exclaims, "Yes!"

JohnSte says, "You should hear the stories we're saying. Susanne."

LianA says, "Sue, if you are far away from your home, you will surely feel home-sick at this time."

chrispaccione has connected.

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] grins th Vance

SusanneN asks, "Yes, why don't we go upstairs?"

SusanneN says, "hello Chris"

VanceS [FRANKENSTEIN!!!] grins back

BJB says, "Hi, Chris. Welcome"

SusanneN exclaims, "This is a surprise party!"

DanB says, "I hate to be left out."

JohnSte says, "Hello, Chris."

SusanneN says, "Do not get scared, please"

DanB says, "Hi, Chris"

rif [guest] asks, "are we leaving for the 2nd floor?"

BJB [to VanceS]: "can you go home and we can join you?"

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] twinkles with her tiny bells

BJB says, "when you see vance leave type /join VanceS"

LianA looks costume.

BJB [to Chris]: "may I help you?"

DanB looks Bullwinkle.

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] flys away in a cloud of swooshing stars

VanceS asks, "bjb can you leave me a recorder here?"

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] leaves for the El.

DiaLog (recording) leaves for the El.

TimeLog (recording) leaves for the El.

LianA says, "Sue, there are many beauriful chinese poems in praise of

the full moon."

BJB says, "I have a recorder here, Vance"

BJB says, "I'll put another in your office"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "Hi, this is my first experience in Tapped in and I am reading the comments and trying to get the gist of the discussion."

VanceS says, "ok, are we going to my office or to E1"

BJB [to Chris]: "sorry for the confusion...we're having a Halloween party in the Webheads office"

JohnSte says, "El is the elevator Vance."

DanB says, "Welcome, Chris"

BJB [to VanceS]: "type /home"

VanceS says, "ok, I'm on my way"

Stopped recording in Reception (#268) at Sun Oct 28 05:04:35 2001 PST.

Started recording in VanceS's Office (#12249)[TappedIn] at Sun Oct 28 05:04:35 2001 PST.

SusanneN exclaims, "Hi!"

BJ [HelpDesk] quietly enters the room.

Shadow follows BJ to here.

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] arrives from nowhere.

DanB [Bullwinkle] arrives from nowhere.

White Book of Tarkin Ru follows JohnSte to here.

Seeing Eye follows DanB to here.

MichaelAC arrives from nowhere.

Personal_Recorder_30627 follows MichaelAC to here.

SusanneN says, "I was just cleaning up form our last party,"

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] it stinks

MargaretD arrives from nowhere.

MargaretD's personal recorder follows MargaretD to here.

LianA [costume] arrives from nowhere.

LianA's personal recorder follows LianA to here.

JohnSte says, "The change in altitude caused my ears to pop."

BJ drops 2001/10/28 Webheads Halloween Party 2 (recording).

rif [guest] arrives from nowhere.

DanB . o O ( I hope Susanne meant the office and not me )

SusanneN exclaims, "This place need to be rederorated!"

MichaelAC exclaims, "You're not an 'IT' Dan!"

SusanneN asks, "Does all ouf you know how to create new objects?"

JohnSte asks, "You mean you didn't do your assignment last night?"

DanB . o O ( I could be a bot )

JohnSte says, "I don't"

VanceS says, "teach us, susanne"

DanB says, "I know once, but forgot how to."

SusanneN says, "Well, if you click at the Supplies button in the upper right corner..."

Felix [guest] arrives from nowhere.

Felix [guest] says, "hi all"

SusanneN says, "you will find the lot of different object foorm the vendor machine."

MargaretD says, "howdie"

JohnSte says, "Hola, Felix"

Felix [guest] says, "Oi John."

VanceS says, "I'm looking for a packet of crisps here"

DanB [Bullwinkle] waves to Felix

SusanneN says, "T/th creating new objects can only be done by memberws I think."

JohnSte says, "OK, I've clicked on supplies."

SusanneN . o O ( this can be done by members only I think )

Felix [guest] says, "I am just drinking my coffee.. YUCK!!C"

SusanneN [to VanceS]: "juts fine something edible and rename it"

VanceS says, "I've been meaning to tidy up my office by packing some of this stuff in containers"

Luisa [guest] arrives from nowhere.

JohnSte says, "brb - gotta refill me coffeecup"

BJ [HelpDesk] waves hi to Luisa...good job

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] gets Hot_Coffee_59510 from the vending machine.

Felix [guest] says, "dont dare to drink from mine John.."

Luisa [guest] says, "hi, Bj"

Felix [guest] says, "you'd die.. LOL"

JohnSte says, "I have my own cup, thank you."

Felix [guest] asks, "Where are you from BJ?"

SusanneN exclaims, "Have a cup of black soot!"

LianA asks, "bjb, do you have the tradition to hear spooky mood music on halloween day?"

Felix [guest] exclaims, "How come I dont even know how to make a decent coffee!!!!!!!!!"

BJ [HelpDesk] nods to Anne

DanB asks, "Susanne, once you got your object, did you rename it black soot?"

LianA [costume] giggles.

SusanneN [to Felix [guest]]: "you have to ask for a membership to create new objects I think :-))"

__ | | SusanneN holds up a BIG sign: | | |__|

chrispaccione [guest] arrives from nowhere.

BJ [HelpDesk] nods to Felix...only members can own stuff

MargaretD projects Carlsberg Special.

You see a chilled Bottle of Carlsberg Special, a famous Danish beverage sold all over the world. Take care, this is no light beer!

LianA asks, "bjb, how to hold a big sign?"

BJ says, "hi, Chris. Welcome to the party"

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] gets Clothing_59513 from the vending machine.

BJ [to Chris]: "can you introduce yourself to the group?"

________________________________________| | SusanneN holds up a BIG sign: | rename /Hot_Coffee_59510 to Black soot | |________________________________________|

BJ . o O ( you might also want to click on DETACH to make the text window larger )

Felix [guest] asks, "Are you a member BJ?"

BJ [HelpDesk] nods to Felix

DanB says, "Thanks, Susanne. I see it now."

SusanneN [to Felix [guest]]: "BJ is an honoured member?"

Felix [guest] says, "ok"

SusanneN says, "It takes a little practice but it can be done."

DanB . o O ( BJ is goddess at TI )

Felix [guest] asks, "Is it free to be a member?"

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] gets Hot_Coffee_59513 from the vending machine.

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] To Felix yes, all free, a special offer for you!

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] bows to Lord Seven-eyes

Felix [guest] says, "thanks Susanne. I will do it as soon as everybody goes. I dont want to miss anything now"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "Hi, I am from the ILAST Institute and am here to see what Tapped In is all about."

rif [guest] says, "wish I had my mug of coffee now..."

JohnSte says, "rename hot_coffee_59510 to Black Soot"

Felix [guest] asks, "BTW, what is Tinkerbell Susanne?"

SusanneN exclaims, "Now we'll have lots of soot here!"

Felix [guest] says, "Welcome Chris"

DanB asks, "Chris, can you summarie ILAST Institute?"

Felix [guest] asks, "what is soot??"

DanB says, "Should have been summarize"

MichaelAC has disconnected.

SusanneN [to Felix [guest]]: "Tinkerbell is an imaginary fairy from Peper Pan, a well known story for kids"

MatthewV arrives from nowhere.

MatthewV's personal recorder follows MatthewV to here.

Felix [guest] says, "AWWW.. It's the name of the fairy... Got it.. Thanks"

MargaretD says, "black dust left from a fire Felix"

SusanneN says, "well, er, soot is a black liquid substance coming from the fireplace"

JohnSte says, "Hi, Mathew."

DanB says, "Hi, Matt"

MatthewV says, "Hi"

BJ says, "hi, Matthew. Welcome to the webheads halloween party"

Luisa [guest] says, "who"

VanceS looks Captain HOOK?.

Felix [guest] says, "I love Peter Pan' story"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "ILAST :Improving learning for all students through technology"

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] has just changed his costume

Felix [guest] says, "Hi Matt"

BJ looks Wendy.

VanceS says, "nyaa haa haa"

MatthewV says, "Hi Felix"

DanB . o O ( Envy Vance's quick change ability )

JohnSte says, "project johnste"

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] shakes hand with capt'n Hook,

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] chases Wendy

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] projects JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes].


You see a 7-1/2 foot (2-1/3 meter) tall, brown, cylindrical shaped being with four long arm-like appendages located near, but somewhat below, the top of the cylinder. Each arm is 90 degrees for the arms on each side of it and ends in two hands. Each hand has seven long limble digits. At the top of the cylinder are seven flexible eye-stalks. The eyes move individually to allow the being to look at up to seven different thingsat the same time.

BJ [Wendy] flys to safety

SusanneN says, "Hi dear Wendy"

MatthewV asks, "Is this an official tapped in event I am partaking in?"

DanB . o O ( Bullwinkle will not make more the seven more bowls of cider )

JohnSte asks, "So after changing my coffee to black soot, what do I do?"

Felix [guest] asks, "John what is Black Soot??"

BJ [to John]: "type /drop black soot"

SusanneN exclaims, "Michael, you drop it!"

JohnSte says, "It is what we were supposed to rename the coffee. I imagine it is a very strong coffee."

DanB says, "I don't know, Matt. I was doing serious work in my office, and went to Reception. My life has not been the same since."

SusanneN . o O ( to /drop someething this becomes visible for all. )

MargaretD . o O ( now we need a vacuum cleaner )

VanceS says, "poor Dan"

SusanneN says, "Or a sponge, this soot is fluid"

chrispaccione [guest] asks, "it looks like I have entered a private Halloween party. Do I have to be a character form Peter Pan?"

VanceS asks, "btw, do any of you have any idea where Wendy is hiding?"

JohnSte says, "I can't get it to drop."

SusanneN exclaims, "This is not private, everyone is welcome!"

DanB says, "No, Chris. You can be who you want to be."

VanceS asks, "You're not going to drop that soot in my office are you?"

rif [guest] says, "and you don't have to have a costume ...(is that true, guys?)"

Felix [guest] asks, "How can I change my name ?"

BJ [to John]: "type /drop Black soot"

BJ . o O ( with the / first )

MargaretD . o O ( I thoughtsoot was dry )

SusanneN [to Felix [guest]]: "type /mood something"

JohnSte drops black soot.

SusanneN says, "This soot is running soot"

JohnSte says, "ok, so I just dirtied up the floot."

SusanneN pours a cup of steaming hot coffee from the pot!

SusanneN takes a sip of hot coffee..

DanB . o O ( Sip even more cider. )

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] steps in soot, starts tracking up office

Felix [guest] looks Felix.

MargaretD says, "hands John the vacuum cleaner"

Felix [guest] looks Felix [Boogie Man].

SusanneN says, "/dips her wings in soot and fly all over thev room to sprinkle a layer of dusty black soot"

SusanneN takes another sip of coffee. .

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] sneezes

Felix [guest] says, "I am on my costume now"

MatthewV asks, "Is this just a role playing room or something?"

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] vacuumses the black soot.

SusanneN takes another sip of coffee. .

chrispaccione [guest] says, "did anyone bring the Mimosas? i am tired of the coffee and soot."

VanceS says, "We're having a halloween party, Matthew"

SusanneN exclaims, "Well this is a prctical English course!"

MatthewV says, "I'm supposed to go to an event on the calendar. I take it, this is not an event."

BJ [to Matthew]: "no...we're just's a halloween party"

JohnSte says, "It is a language learning room Matthew."

MargaretD says, "in it I hope Felix"

Felix [guest] says, "I'd rather a cachaa Chris"

SusanneN [Tinkerbell] is a learning student from denmark

SusanneN takes another sip of coffee. .

BJ [to Matthew]: "the webheads are a group of language learners"

FanL [Luisa] arrives from nowhere.

FanL's personal recorder follows FanL to here.

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] spies Wendy!

Felix [guest] says, "cachaca"

DanB says, "Hi, Fan."

BJ [Wendy] wonders if we should introduce ourselves to the newcomers so they don't freak

JohnSte [to Matthew]: "and teachers."

MatthewV says, "ok then, I will take my leave"

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] starts chasing Wendy

BJ says, "I'm an art teacher in Pennsylvania"

SusanneN exclaims, "Oh yes, I am a very serious looking grandmother of 51, living and studying in denmark!"

DanB asks, "Good idea, BJ. In what order?"

JohnSte says, "I'm an English teacher in Puerto Rico studying his PhD in Pennsylvania"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "I am a pe teacher in California"

VanceS says, "cachaca is one of my favorite drinks"

Felix [guest] says, "I am just a student in this community. From Brazil"

MatthewV says, "I'm a student in Minnesota"

DanB says, "I'm a college professor in Wisconsin."

MatthewV says, "soon to be a math teacher"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "what is in cachaca"

Felix [guest] says, "We are good ones here Vance"

JohnSte asks, "So, Matthew, what do you study?"

MatthewV says, "Math"

JohnSte says, "hmmm."

SusanneN looks good guy.

LianA asks, "DanB, what do you teach in Winsconsin?"

BJ [to Matthew]: "where are you studying?"

MatthewV says, "Minnesota"

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] puts his arm around Felix and clinks glass

DanB says, "Marketing and Management courses to upper division undergraduate students."

Felix [guest] says, "Cachaca is a beverage made of suggar cane. Very strong"

SusanneN [good guy] smiles

LianA says, "Minnessota ---twin cities?// cool DanB"

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] staggerses around.

chrispaccione [guest] asks, "where did it originate?"

SusanneN says, "Oh, my little sister came home yesterday from Barazil and told wonderful sotries about this cane sugar drink with lime and ice"

DanB . o O ( Add cachaca to next bowls of cider )

MatthewV says, "bye bye people"

MatthewV has disconnected.

Felix [guest] says, "From Brazil.. It's a Brazilian drink.. Stronger than Tequila (from Mexico)"

MargaretD . o O ( John got in the spiked cider )

BJ [Wendy] sighs..poor Matthew

JohnSte says, "I'm seeing double in each of my seven eyes."

DanB . o O ( Hope we didn's scare Matt too much. )

SusanneN says, "Well, this might not have beel too serious looking for Matthew"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "I think we need some food at this party. I have an empty stomach and I have hit the chachacha drink too many times."

SusanneN says, "But it IS very serious."

SusanneN says, "I have prepared all kinds of information for you all, just in case :-)"

JohnSte says, "I wonder what the conference on the calendar he was looking for was."

DanB says, "I agree, Susanne. I'm sure Matt was unprepared for this."

Felix [guest] exclaims, "You cant drink cachaca without anything in your stomach. So that you next stop is going to the hospital!"

MargaretD asks, "were you Dan?"

rif [guest] arrives from nowhere.

SusanneN says, "I'd rather have you tell something a bout harvest and dead ancestors' celebration traditions"

DanB says, "Well, I've been a TI member for about 2 year. Not much surprises me."

SusanneN [good guy] passes the famous pumpkin pie

JohnSte says, "Hi, Rif. Have some spiked cider."

DanB . o O ( Sample pumkin pie...UMMMMMMM )

rif [guest] says, "thnx... John.. I have some Turkish delights with me but I don't know where to put it"

FanL looks Luisa.

MargaretD . o O ( and watch Jon's seven eyes roll )

SusanneN exclaims, "I had to find some recipes on the internet. We are not used to prepare this kind of bakery in Denmark, but we loved it!"

FanL asks, "hey, party going to chaos?"

JohnSte . o O ( why did I have to try that cider? )

SusanneN [good guy]asks to some Turkish delight, I love that sweet candy!

MargaretD asks, "think going?"

DanB says, "Margaret, I'm sure your regular meetings are very serious. Not to mention valuable learning experiences. But it's always gratifying to me to interact with people who can also enjoy themselves in this environment."

JohnSte says, "Hey, language learning has to be fun, Dan."

rif [guest] says, "and a little bit creative :-))"

DanB says, "Absolutely, John. It seems to me that it's always evolving."

MargaretD says, "especially abroad"

DanB . o O ( I'm envious of people who can speak more than one language. )

SusanneN [to Margaret]: "Do the Germans celebrate Hallowe'en nowadays? They began some years ago in Swiss, it is said."

Felix [guest] asks, "Can't you Dan?"

MargaretD . o O ( it does change your perspective )

DanB says, "A very little German, from my high school days."

SusanneN [to Dan]: "double tongues must be a horrible handicap? Even worse then six eyes"

MargaretD says, "Yes Susanne...I think this year it really happens"

DanB says, "I've been fortunate in meeting people like all of you who can speak English."

SusanneN [good guy] listens to maggie

Felix [guest] asks, "But English is your mother tongue right?"

DanB says, "You and life's events have helped change my perspectives on a lot of issues."

SusanneN says, "mood /Skeleton"

SusanneN looks skeleton.

DanB says, "Yes, Felix. It is."

SusanneN [skeleton] rattles her bones and takes on and off her skull

Felix [guest] exclaims, "It's not difficult to learn another language, you just have to start it!"

MargaretD says, "each one gets easier Dan"

Felix [guest] says, "Right mad"

SusanneN [to Felix [guest]]: "in Brazil you speak Portuguese as an official language, but therre must be lots of other dialects, or native languages ?"

rif [guest] exclaims, "need to leave for now guys...happy partying!"

Felix [guest] says, "We only speak Portuguese in Brazil.. We dont have a second language here"

MargaretD says, "I was surprised how fast I started to catch on to Danish"

JohnSte says, "Thanks Rif, See ya soon."

DanB says, "Bye, rif."

VanceS says, "leaving? I hope to receive your email"

SusanneN exclaims, "Hi Rif, see you!"

MargaretD exclaims, "bye Rif!"

VanceS says, "I'll be in touch too. We have to organize ourselves"

Felix [guest] says, "bye Rif"

SusanneN [to Maggie]: "Taler du dansk?"

SusanneN looks organized.

MargaretD says, "only a little Susanne"

SusanneN [organized] feel not so well organized?

SusanneN asks, "Did you go to Denmark lately?"

MargaretD says, " to someone there"

DanB looks Away. BRB..

SusanneN says, "hmmm"

MargaretD says, "years ago I was there...and years ago I learned Swedish"

SusanneN [organized] noids, those two languages are similar but still different :-)

MargaretD says, "between Swedish German and English isn't so difficult"

SusanneN . o O ( Danish and Swedish are both germanic languages )

VanceS says, "I've been to Denmark a couple of times. Second time they wondered where I'd got the old coins."

Felix [guest] exclaims, "it's like Portuguese and Spanish so similar but still different!"

DanB looks Bullwinkle.

SusanneN says, "hands vance some old Kroner and oere"

SusanneN [organized] wonders who is this Bullwinkle?

MargaretD exclaims, "yep when OI went to Spain and tried Mexican!"

BJ [Wendy] waits for Dan to explain Bullwinkle

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] eyes kroner by lifting eye patch

BJ looks Rocky.

Felix [guest] says, "different versions of Spanish"

MargaretD says, "yep"

SusanneN asks, "Is Mexican and Spanish very different?"

MargaretD says, "oh yes"

Felix [guest] says, "but Portuguese from Brazil and from Portugal.. A lot different"

FanL says, "guys, i have to quit the party to work offline. see u"

MargaretD says, "especially when you mix in Italian"

SusanneN [to John]: "you are living in Mexico, right?"

VanceS says, "ok, glad you could come"

BJ [Rocky] waves bye to Luisa

JohnSte says, "OK, see you, Dan."

SusanneN says, "Bye, Fan"

DanB says, "I'm back. I didn't want to be Odie anymore."

Felix [guest] says, "bye Fan"

JohnSte says, "No, Susanne, I live in Puerto Rico."

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] waves hook

MargaretD says, "bye Fan"

FanL [Luisa] has disconnected.

JohnSte says, "That is an island in the Caribbean."

LianA says, "bye, fan"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "I learned to speak spanish in spain. my students from mexico can't understand me very well."

LianA asks, "DanB, do you teach in Economics department?"

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] waves to Fan

Felix [guest] says, "I tried to speak German.. But gave up.. Due to hmmmmm laziness LOL"

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] accidentally bumps overhead lamp CLANG

DanB [to LianA]: "I teach in the Business Economics discipline."

DanB . o O ( Hope Vance is not hurt too badly )

chrispaccione [guest] says, "How is your head? Apply pressure and elevate."

LianA says, "wonderful, i am applying for economics now, can you introduce sth about your department? thank you."

SusanneN [organized] hands some incredibly ugly cake called <cat litter>, very popular in Canada for Halloween parties!

DanB says, "We discontinued the Bachelors of Business Administration degree..."

SusanneN [organized] sorry to interrupt with imappropriate dishes

LianA asks, "how about Ph.D?"

DanB says, "And have gone to the Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science degree in Business Economics..."

DanB says, "We do not offer any advanced degrees."

Felix [guest] says, "ppl, I've gotta go."

chrispaccione [guest] asks, "Business economics and cat cake?????? What is happening to this party??"

DanB says, "bye, felix"

BJ [Rocky] waves bye to Felix

JohnSte says, "OK, Felix. Have a nice day."

SusanneN says, "Nice mix of categories"

SusanneN says, "Seruos stiff, really"

LianA asks, "I am applying for Ph.D, why not offer the advanced degrees? DanB?"

DanB says, "More chaos theory."

SusanneN says, "Bye, felix"

LianA asks, "so can know the name of your university?"

DanB [to Felix]: "We are s very small college without the resources needed for advanced degrees."

LianA asks, "are there many international students in your university?"

DanB says, "We have a very small percentage of international students here."

MargaretD says, "bye Fekix"

VanceS says, "Sorry I'm in a couple of other chaos places"

LianA says, "thank you Danb for tellingabout your univ."

DanB . o O ( Need more cider and pumkin pie. )

VanceS says, "active worlds and the Yahoo chat"

LianA [costume] bows ato DanB

VanceS says, "I'll catch up with everyone here through the logs"

DanB asks, "Your welcome, Lian. What about your university?"

VanceS says, "nice to see everyone"

LianA says, "I study in Hubei univ in China."

LianA says, "my major is international trade."

DanB asks, "Wonderful. Any particular area or specialy in international trade?"

SusanneN says, "Oh, I am getting so envious by your advanced comm tech studies, Vance"

SusanneN [to Lian]: "do you plan to study abroad later?"

LianA says, "yes, i plan to go abroad."

MargaretD asks, "Vance is studying<?"

LianA says, "i want to study international economics."

VanceS asks, "me?"

SusanneN says, "I know that Toronto in Canada has an excellent school of trade where they have special experiences with students from abroad."

DanB says, "I am very concerned about how the World Trade Center attack will affect international trade."

LianA says, "great, can you tell me more, sue.thank you"

SusanneN exclaims, "Vance is one example of the true life long learner!"

SusanneN says, "Lian, they have a preprraration class for the abroad students."

MargaretD says, "I think Dan it means countries that exist in poverty may have become a security threat to rich countries"

LianA asks, "can i apply it?"

SusanneN exclaims, "I also happen to know a nice place to live in Toronto where most of the residents are young students from China!"

DanB [Bullwinkle] grins at Vance's elevated status

JohnSte [Lord Seven-Eyes] has lost his link.

DanB asks, "Margaret, can you explain a little more?"

SusanneN says, "Lian, if you pass me your email, I will find the relevant information for you so you can find out more on your own."

JohnSte has connected.

DanB says, "Welcome back, Lord Seven-Eyes."

LianA says, "thankyou so much, mine is, thankyou Sue."

JohnSte says, "I hate it when that happens. My system just did an automatic reboot."

LianA [costume] bows to Sue

SusanneN says, "The university campus of Toronto is a great place with many faculcies, just right in the middle of the very well organized city."

VanceS [Captain HOOK?] knows the feeling

JohnSte says, "Thanks, dan."

MargaretD says, "desperate people do desperate things as we now see...I don't think we can avoid helping them more"

DanB says, "I think I understand your point now, Margaret. And I agree."

SusanneN says, "There is a train direct to New York from Toronto, only 150 km from the frontier at the great falls of Niagara."

MargaretD says, "I read my Fortune magazine th8is morning and tried seeing how we live through the eyes of someone who stuggles just to have the basics"

DanB asks, "I was just thinking, I found Webheads by accident. How did all of you find Webheads?"

SusanneN exclaims, "I was in Toronto last year at this time, that's where i experienced the Halolowe'en tradition for the first time in my life!"

VanceS says, "We started webheads 3 years ago"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "I am supposed to be here for a ILAST conference. It is listed on my schedule."

LianA [costume] receiving telephone.

SusanneN [to Lian,]: "Take a look at"

LianA says, "thankyou, sue"

chrispaccione [guest] asks, "how many original members?"

VanceS says, "we met an, bj, and others in Tappped In"

VanceS says, "Maggi is an original member, and me"

VanceS asks, "do you want me to SHOW you the url?"

DanB asks, "So, your group sort of evolved into what it is now?"

chrispaccione [guest] asks, "have you ever seen each other in person?"

VanceS says, ""

BJ [Rocky] wonders if Chris knows about url projections

VanceS says, "yes that it correct ... Maggi and I have met and Michael and Maggi have met"

VanceS says, "But other than that, no f2f meetings"

BJ [Rocky] shows chrispaccione the URL:

DanB asks, "Do you know how the other members found out about Webheads?"

SusanneN [to Lian]: "the school I was thinking of is called the Rotman School of Management.The website is"

JohnSte says, "I found out about it from a mention Vance made to another group I belong to."

VanceS says, "some were directed here through"

LianA says, "thank you, very much, Sue,i take it down."

VanceS says, "We've done a lot of conferences, have a couple coming up as a matter of fact"

VanceS says, "See for details"

SusanneN says, "I discovered some clear signs of activity here in tapped In some months ago, and joined for sheer curiosity. Really my poor writing has become MUCH better <g>"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "thanks for showing that to me."

VanceS says, "Susanne has also become much better at chaos navigation (so has bj)"

SusanneN [organized] smile to Lian

LianA [costume] grins to Sue.

SusanneN says, "We all like to learn and experiment in this informal way, I guess that's why we come back."

DanB says, "My mind is sort of chaotic; so, this has been a valuable experience for me."

BJ [Rocky] agrees with Vance. I can now watch five active screens at once

SusanneN looks Horror.

VanceS says, "Sounds like you'll fit right in"

VanceS looks normal.

DanB says, "You're very kind, Vance."

SusanneN [Horror] hands Dan a free membership key

DanB asks, "Key?"

VanceS says, "if you want to join us, that means get on our mailing list ..."

VanceS says, "then send email to"

SusanneN [Horror] takes Rocky in her hand and prepares for another Rocky Horror show

DanB asks, "I will definitely study your website. Are you meeting again next week?"

BJ [Rocky] smiles...This is Rocky of Rocky and Bullwinkle

JohnSte says, "We meet every week."

VanceS says, "Every Sunday noon GMT since 1998"

SusanneN . o O ( the key is just a symbol I invented right now :-) )

DanB . o O ( Envious of Susanne's rapid inventing ability )

chrispaccione [guest] exclaims, "Sorry, I won't fit in. I always like communicate face to face. I don't have a cell phone. I needed to do this for a my institute. Thanks for letting me in on the party!"

BJ says, "time for me to go get some Sunday chores done"

SusanneN says, "TYhis is one advantage of speaking multiple chaotic tongues, makes your imagination wortk faster"

JohnSte says, "same here."

DanB says, "Bye, BJ. Thanks."

SusanneN exclaims, "Too bad Chris, that your face is so distant!"

DanB says, "Bye, John, It was very nice meeting you."

VanceS says, "You are welcome Chris"

chrispaccione [guest] says, "plus it is 5:00 am pacific time, I really should be in bed."

JohnSte picks up black soot.

SusanneN says, "Yes, me too I have more serious things to do."

JohnSte says, "Nice meeting you too, Dan."

DanB says, "Have a great day, Susanne."

VanceS [normal] wonders what Susanne would be doing seriously

SusanneN says, "same you you, Dan, hope to meet you again"

BJ looks Away.

MargaretD says, "bye then"

JohnSte says, "Don't know about Sussane, but I'm going to be vaccuming."

VanceS says, "I guess it is about time we all took off these silly costumes and got back to our jobs and families"

SusanneN looks normal.

BJ [to Susanne]: "thanks for a wonderful party"

JohnSte says, "Yep."

chrispaccione [guest] exclaims, "Adios to all the creative minds in those webheads!"

SusanneN exclaims, "I did not do much work, all for our guests!"

DanB says, "Thank you all very much for letting me join your Halloween party."

VanceS says, "Yes, Susanne, it's great the energy you've brought us"

JohnSte says, "Adios to you too, Chris."

SusanneN exclaims, "Bye Chris!"

VanceS says, "Thanks for organizing"

SusanneN [to VanceS]: "I hope it is in your spirit that I've taken ownership of our class for a few times?"

SusanneN [normal] grins

DanB . o O ( Drink rest of cider before Vance does. )

SusanneN says, "It is a great opportynity for me, honestly"

VanceS says, "for all of us"

DanB says, "I can see why your group has continued to meet regularly."

SusanneN [normal] fills her skull with cider and sugar cane

VanceS says, "yep, always fun, always different"

VanceS says, "always informative, stimulating, learn something new"

DanB says, "If all of you don't mind, I may come back for one of the regular meetings."

SusanneN exclaims, "Please do, Dan!"

VanceS says, "of course, welcome, any time"

JohnSte says, "you'll always find yourself welcome, Dan."

MargaretD says, "sure thing Dan"

SusanneN says, "We need new blood"

LianA says, "welcome DanB"

LianA [costume] giggles.

VanceS looks vampire.

SusanneN [normal] takes on her vampire outfit

VanceS asks, "did someone say new blood?"

LianA says, "Sue, we have the same phrase in China need new blood."

SusanneN exclaims, "Grins, this really sucks!"

VanceS [vampire] smiles in anticipation

JohnSte says, "arrrrggggghhh."

SusanneN [normal] toes Lian, really, this may be a universal phrase -)s.

DanB . o O ( Then, again.....? )

SusanneN says, "The wrost thing about this kind of informal fun..."

SusanneN exclaims, "is to say goodbye and leave!"

DanB says, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder."

MargaretD . o O ( Dan doesn't relish drinking blood )

SusanneN exclaims, "But I will, really!"

VanceS says, "but someone's gotta to it"

SusanneN [normal] waves bye to all

LianA says, "gnite Sue."

DanB says, "Until next week..."

JohnSte says, "Yep. So see ya'll later."

MargaretD says, "bye Susanne"

DanB goes home.

LianA [costume] waves bye to Sue.

SusanneN says, "Bye, Maggi"

VanceS says, "bye everyone. Don't want to be the last to leave the party."

SusanneN says, "See ya Lian -i'll mail you soon."

BJ [to VanceS]: "I'll drop the other recorder here for you"

LianA says, "thankyou very much."

SusanneN [normal] projects black soot. A steaming hot pot of coffee. If you'd like some, you can DRINK COFFEE.

JohnSte says, "Bye everybody. See you next week."

JohnSte goes home.

VanceS says, "thanks bj. I'll try to remember to come back for them."

SusanneN says, "Id'better not sneak into the office then"

MargaretD asks, "don't you have a recorder Vanc3?"

SusanneN says, "when there is a recorder registereing every movement"

VanceS says, "yes I have a recorder, but these recorders you can leave in one place and they record in your absense"

VanceS exclaims, "particularly handy in case someone might sneak into your office !!!"

MargaretD says, "convenient"

VanceS says, "and maybe steal your cat or something like that"

SusanneN looks guilty.

SusanneN [guilty] blushes

VanceS [vampire] doesn't mind

VanceS says, "all in good fun"

SusanneN pets Muscat

Meow Meow! <purrrrrr> . o O <feed me, SusanneN!>

SusanneN says, "Sorry to cause your cat those traums"

LianA [costume] laughs.

VanceS says, "I think he's getting over it"

SusanneN asks, "No cat pee problems lately?"

VanceS says, "I'd better change out of this costume"

SusanneN [guilty] thinks that a traumatized cat can be a real pest

SusanneN looks webhead.

VanceS looks Webheaded.

SusanneN [webhead] feel much better that way, too

LianA says, "you can say that again."

VanceS says, "back to normal. Well, I'm goint to call it a night."

SusanneN says, "But this was fun. At least we had some new gueste coming in."

LianA says, "yes, new blood."

SusanneN says, "Bloody right, Lian"

LianA [costume] giggles.

SusanneN [webhead] drink a sip of Bloody Mary

SusanneN . o O ( A cocktail of Tomato Juice and Vodka I think )

LianA asks, "what is bloody mary, Sue?"

SusanneN [webhead] wanna taste?

LianA asks, "yes, pls?"

LianA says, "brb"

SusanneN [webhead] shakes ice, Vodka and tomato juice with s dash of tabasco

LianA [costume] goes away for a while, her mama is calling her.

VanceS says, "bye all"

VanceS [Webheaded] has disconnected.

Disconnected from TAPPED IN on Sun Oct 28 06:22:06 2001 PST.

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The text side to Yahoo VOICE chat

Yahoo! Messenger: You are now logged into voice conference - jhsteelepr-6567.

Yahoo! Messenger: bj_berquist has joined the conference.

bj_berquist: John, can you invite jjcyd?

jhsteelepr: Let me check how.

Yahoo! Messenger: jjcyd has joined the conference.

Vance_Stevens: Friend / invite to conference

bj_berquist: hi, Yaodong!

jjcyd: hi!

jhsteelepr: Hi Yaodong. Can you hear us?

jjcyd: hi, all!

bj_berquist: no, I don't have a mic

Vance_Stevens: Dong, BJ, can you hear us?

bj_berquist: Yes, I can hear you find

jjcyd: how can i hear you?

bj_berquist: (fine)

bj_berquist: har har har....

Vance_Stevens: what version of Messenger do you have, Dong?

Vance_Stevens: I have version 4.1.0, John too

jjcyd: version is it the version number?)

jjcyd: will you invite Ann?

jhsteelepr: Check if there is a button on the lower left-hand corner that should say either voice or voice off. If it says voice, click on in.

Yahoo! Messenger: an_lian has joined the conference.

jjcyd: hi , ann!/ i don't see voice on/off.

jhsteelepr: That means you will probably have to upgrade to a newer version.

Vance_Stevens: You probably need to download the latest version Dong

an_lian: so who is speaking

an_lian: can bitehole speak?

jhsteelepr: Why not?

Vance_Stevens: trouble with my voice server .. same with everyone?

jjcyd: ok, i will do it later.

an_lian: can you hear us,don?

bj_berquist: I don't see it...I just see that your status is view my webcam

bj_berquist: I have it

bj_berquist: yep..that worked

jjcyd: we cannot hear yu at all.

bj_berquist: I clicked view my webcam under list of friends

an_lian: bjb, was there anyone knock your front door this morning?

Vance_Stevens: I just asked BJ how she got it

bj_berquist: yes, lian <Jump to this part of the conversation in Tapped In>

bj_berquist: you look as handsome as ever, Vance!

jjcyd: I wish my students can see you all beautiful people.

an_lian: i didn't get your webcam

jjcyd: and hear your sweent voice

an_lian: no,. i still cannot see your cam

jhsteelepr: As I sit here in my pajamas watching Vance dressed in a shirt and tie, I say to myself: "Thank God for Sabbaticals"

Vance_Stevens: Lian, pull down friend and click view webcam

Vance_Stevens: any luck LIan?

an_lian: yes, i have seen your web

Vance_Stevens: what do I do with it now? Any ideas?

bj_berquist: yep

Yahoo! Messenger: hdep65 has joined the conference.

Vance_Stevens: Hi Peter

hdep65: eveninh gentlemen

Vance_Stevens: Peter, pull down friend, and click view webcam

hdep65: evening Vance

jhsteelepr: Hi, Peter, can you hear us?

hdep65: yup

hdep65: just about

hdep65: don7t have mike hand

Vance_Stevens: no mic (english teachers, you know)

hdep65: seems to be breaking up a lot

hdep65: typos Vance

bj_berquist: voice is breaking up a lot, Vance

Vance_Stevens: laughs

hdep65: plus three beers

bj_berquist: or was vance drinking the beers?

hdep65: where is the friends menu???

bj_berquist: thanks...much better sound now


jjcyd: what shall we do if i want to update the current version?

Vance_Stevens: in that url I showed you, it's at the top of the page

jjcyd: ok, thanks a lot.

an_lian: brb

an_lian: i am back

Vance_Stevens: Dong, Yahoo messenger:

jjcyd: why back here? ready for the party?

bj_berquist: Vance is being strangled by his multitasking cables

an_lian: yes,ready for the party.

Vance_Stevens: arrghh

bj_berquist: is that you talking, Yaodong?

an_lian: yes, it is yaodongc talking he is jjcyd in yahoo.

Yahoo! Messenger: mikecogh has joined the conference.

Vance_Stevens: Hi Michael.

mikecogh: Hi folks

jhsteelepr: Can you hear us, Michael?

Vance_Stevens: File Edit View Friend ???

Vance_Stevens: 4.0.1 version?

Vance_Stevens: we have 4.1.0

hdep65: OK Vance am back to running the old version again

hdep65: so will close down

hdep65: and install it

hdep65: see you later

jjcyd: i will reboot my pc os that i can see/hear you all. bye ofor now.

Yahoo! Messenger: jjcyd has left the conference.<Follow Yaodong to Tapped In>

Vance_Stevens: ok

bj_berquist: yes, I hear this Mike?

mikecogh: So you can hear me John?

an_lian: can you hear me? i cannot hear you sometimes.

mikecogh: Good - you're coming in clear here.

bj_berquist: I can't hear you clearly, Lian

Vance_Stevens: pull down Friend and /view webcam

Vance_Stevens: does it work?

Yahoo! Messenger: yinglanliu has joined the conference.

jhsteelepr: Hello, Ying Lan. How are you today?

yinglanliu: fine,,, I am tired now. I drove all day.

jhsteelepr: I'm sorry to hear that you are tired. Can you hear us today?

an_lian: can you hear me?

Yahoo! Messenger: hdep65 has left the conference.

bj_berquist: Lian, no, I don't hear you at all now <Jump to this place in the Tapped In log and see a screen view>

Vance_Stevens: what ws that Michael?

Yahoo! Messenger: yinglanliu has left the conference.

bj_berquist: I hear you fine now, Lian

bj_berquist: raises her hand

Yahoo! Messenger: yinglanliu is not available.

bj_berquist: Yes, that's DanB

bj_berquist: type /id danb

bj_berquist: you're welcome, Mike

mikecogh: Does this ding?

bj_berquist: I didn't get a ding either

bj_berquist: 7am for me..not a good time

jhsteelepr: 6:00 AM for me.

jhsteelepr: Sorry, that's when I would have to get up.

Vance_Stevens: /mood costume

an_lian: musical voice,

bj_berquist: you need to play some spooky mood music for the party

an_lian: what does spooky mean? bjb.

jhsteelepr: It means scary, an_lian

bj_berquist: spooky means scary

bj_berquist: thanks, John

an_lian: thanks bjb

mikecogh: Who can tell me how to say An-Lian's name?

an_lian: Linda shear?

bj_berquist: Yaodong said she got food sickness when she was there?

bj_berquist: She works at SRI

bj_berquist: SRI is the company that started TAPPED IN

an_lian: yes

bj_berquist: take a look at

an_lian: good music

an_lian: piano, yes, a good piece.

an_lian: hear-stirring

an_lian: happy laugh, vance

bj_berquist: bye, Mike

Yahoo! Messenger: mikecogh has left the conference.

bj_berquist: Poor Matthew and Chris

Vance_Stevens: avatar

bj_berquist: like your icon in TAPPED IN


Vance_Stevens: is it easy for you to go there?

jhsteelepr: You can save the text by going to file save.

jhsteelepr: I suddenly lost voice. can't hear or speak.

Vance_Stevens: your voice is breaking up there john, or is it because I've started a download ?

jhsteelepr: I don't know what it is. My talk button turns on and off. I can't hear anything, but I'm not downloading anything, either.

Vance_Stevens: network conjestion

Vance_Stevens: congestion

jhsteelepr: that must be it.

Vance_Stevens: have you taken anything for it?

jhsteelepr: Some expectorant.

bj_berquist: now you're breaking up, Vance

an_lian: bjb, i am eager to hear your voice.

bj_berquist: I'll have to find the mic that came with the computer, Ann

bj_berquist: (I never thought I would need it!)

jhsteelepr: You can never tell, BJ.

bj_berquist: right, John

Vance_Stevens: I'm at active worlds now

bj_berquist: I hear you, Vance

jhsteelepr: I don't hear anybody.

bj_berquist: quiet now

bj_berquist: I hear you ok, are doing too many things! The halloween party is missing you!

bj_berquist: (especially since Susanne worked so hard to prepare for the party)

an_lian: brb'

Yahoo! Messenger: an_lian has left the conference.

bj_berquist: see ya, Vance...good night!

Vance_Stevens: bye bye

Yahoo! Messenger: bj_berquist has left the conference.

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Vance finds Rif on ICQ

Vance: rif, we're all in tapped in and Yahoo voice chat

rif: Hi , be there in a sec.

Vance: ok <Follow Rif to Tapped In>

Vance: Rif, we should discuss somewhere our upcoming presentation

rif: I was planning to send you an email tomorrow. Some of my students are very eager to do that...

Vance: eager to have you join us

Vance: what would they like to do , anything in particular?

rif: Not really, they are just enthusiastic.... Last time I asked them an open ended question about their experiences, they supplied me wonderful insighths that I will send you in email...

rif: It is computer as toy for most of them, which I like to see them using it as a toy. in fact.

Vance: yeah, me too. I like to use it as a toy, a productive kind of toy

rif: they are a step before production, though :-))

Vance: what would they like to produce? Web pages ?

rif: I meant, they cannot think of production yet...It is their first encounter with the Internet concept. i think that makes a special point in presenting! They never had such an experience before...

rif: imagine they did not hear the concept to click before, for example.

Vance: we teach people here like that

rif: that's a point to make!

Vance: to give yourself a costume, type /mood costume
Message was sent. User is Offline.
The message will be delivered when user goes Online.

rif: got disconnected....

Vance: sorry

Vance: back now?

rif: yep... in my third attemp. I am at home (I use modem connection)

Vance: ok

rif: I need to do some shopping Vance, !see you later

Vance: ok, Rif, did you want to practice beforehand, btw?

Vance: and would you like to do it this Wednesday?

rif: yes, that would be great... Are we still on the schedule for Oct 31?

Vance: Yeah, we can arrange that? Ok, we'll meet then.

rif: I would like to send you an email tomorrow, and maybe we can talk about what we can do both for wed and for the conference...

Vance: ok, see you then. Are you on Yahoo or MSN Messenger?

Vance: or give me a time and I'll come on ICQ

rif: MSN with
I will be online most of the afternoon. There are couple of papers I am working on, so I will be around.

rif: I mean on ICQ..

Vance: OK, I'll look for you. I have a meeting tomorrow 2 to 4:30 or 5

Vance: meetings

Vance: we can send email about it. I'll look for your email

rif: ok.. we switched to daylight savings btw..

rif: I am home, tomorrow we are off because of the Republic Day

Vance: ok. I'll just check in as often as possible
Message was sent. User is Offline.
The message will be delivered when user goes Online.

Rif gets his Yahoo Messenger working and connects with Vance

vance_stevens: cheers! We can try this one tomorrow.

arif_altun2001: take care

vance_stevens: And I'm always onlline on Yahoo mSgr

vance_stevens: On ICQ I have to dialup. This one is on the LAN

vance_stevens: so look for me any time

vance_stevens: bye for now, really got to run

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Peter spots Vance's web cam on Yahoo

When my web cam is broadcasting, an icon appears on my online status in Yahoo. Peter must have spotted it ...

hdep65: web cam???? Is it working???

vance_stevens: yes, I'll invite you?

hdep65: OK

hdep65: can you re-invite me??

vance_stevens: yep

Yahoo! Messenger: hdep65's status is now "Available" (10/28/01 at 5:27 PM) <Follow Peter to Tapped In>

<Top> Tapped In chat logs | The text side to Yahoo VOICE chat | Vance finds Rif on ICQ | Peter spots Vance's web cam on Yahoo | Felix in ICQ | Sue checks in (next day) on Yahoo

Felix finds Vance on ICQ

Grisham: what is the www where you are?

Vance: hi Felix,

Grisham: and now?... I just logged as a guest <Follow Felix to Tapped In>

<Top> Tapped In chat logs | The text side to Yahoo VOICE chat | Vance finds Rif on ICQ | Peter spots Vance's web cam on Yahoo | Felix in ICQ | Sue checks in (next day) on Yahoo

Sue checks in (next day) on Yahoo

mysailing: hello, vance, busy working?

vance_stevens: HI, yeah, talking with Rif on ICQ

mysailing: is there vice function too in ICQ?

vance_stevens: voice? I think you have to pay for it

mysailing: oh, i see

mysailing: anything changed in your place?

vance_stevens: Not really. Seems pretty safe. Very sad about what's going on in the West Bank and Afghanistan though, and the massacres of Christians in Pakistan

vance_stevens: People seem to be going crazy in some places

mysailing: any demo or voilance?

vance_stevens: Here? No, the UAE gov't is very strict about criminals and the people are gentle. It's a peaceful place.

mysailing: really? that is out of my imagination. I thought your place is the most dangerous since they are all isram

vance_stevens: Islam is a religion like any other, with gentle people living good lives, but the extremists are using the religion as an excuse to rally mindless people to support them

vance_stevens: still there?

mysailing: yeag

mysailing: what is the meaning of 'rally'

mysailing: i agree with you. i always think that religion is 'a tool' for politican to make use of most time

vance_stevens: yeah, most people just want to live in peace

mysailing: but now seems so terrible, ithe begginign of this century is not good

vance_stevens: I guess things must have been pretty depressing in world war II. The Nazis were herding people into gas chambers and winning for a while, bombing cities with civilians

mysailing: what do you think of anthrax?

vance_stevens: I wouldn't want to catch it. I'm glad I'm not using the US Mails.

mysailing: is this the first time in U.S. history to have bio- terror?

vance_stevens: Someone was putting cyanide in Excedrin tablets some time back. They were trying to get money from the company.

mysailing: even in Jpan here are in high tense

vance_stevens: hope the taliban falls soon.

vance_stevens: I've got to go to a meeting in a few minutes. I hope you stay safe there. Are you still planning to go to Texas A&M?

mysailing: yah,

mysailing: although a bit scared, but i have made decision.

vance_stevens: You should be ok. We have a saying, "Don't mess with Texas"

mysailing: any reason?

vance_stevens: It really means pick up your litter (you see the sign on the highways)

mysailing: no

mysailing: ok, i need to run. bye, have a nice day

mysailing: catch you later

Yahoo! Messenger: mysailing has logged out. (10/29/01 at 1:41 PM)

vance_stevens: me too, bye

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