Webheads chat logs from April
1, 2001
Meet the people in the chat today
Today's chat was one of our best, with enthusiastic participants tuning
in from six continents. After John sent a voice message on Wimba saying he
would be along after breakfast, Maggi and I met in ICQ.
Maggi had heard from Tomas, one of our ex-Webhead
students, and she tried to forward me a picture he had sent her. We were
discussing the picture when Larry Keenan, who is selling access to HearMe-like
chat rooms, came up on Maggi's ICQ, so she went to see the rooms and chat with
the salesman.
Sue had meanwhile appeared in Homestead but Maggi and I didn't notice
her, so she got Vance's attention on Yahoo. She asked
where to join us and we asked her to choose, so she chose
Excite. However, when she arrived there, we discovered she was in
hands-free mode and recycling our voices from her speakers through her mic. She
managed to get out of hands free for a few minutes and hold a conversation with
Moral who had by then joined us, but when her computer went by itself back into
hands free, she decided to leave Excite so the rest of us could voice-chat
there, and we decided to all go to Tapped In and text
chat with Sue there.
By now Vance, Maggi, Michael, John, Ying Lan, Moral, and Sue were all in
Tapped In and all of us but Sue in Excite. We found this to be a good way to
chat, typing in Tapped In and talking to each other in the Excite voice chat
room. Ying Lan discovered how to send us all what was written on the whiteboard
in my office (there was a note from Jerry
Bicknell there), and John reminded us how to flash web sites on each
other's screens. He showed us the Tower
of English site, and Vance displayed the web
site of the language center where he is CALL coordinator.
We were having so much fun that we again didn't notice a visitor to the
Homestead chat room until she had already left. It was
Sophie, and fortunately she came back at about the time that Juani showed up.
Juani's news was even better than last week's: she is now going to Colorado
instead of Mississippi. The teacher from Mississippi didn't want to go to
Chile! Can you believe it? All those lakes!?? She'll never know what she
missed, and Juani will have a better time in Colorado, where the climate and
mountains are more like those of Chile. Sophie said she had come along because
of Vance's voice message earlier, and she talked about
the
conference she's holding in Cyprus in May where
Vance will be
a plenary speaker. Michael might even come up if he can get funding. Vance
thought it would be a good idea to broadcast the conference in a voice chat
medium like Excite while flashing the graphics he plans to use in a chat medium
like Tapped In, as we had just been doing in the Webheads chat. We were
discussing it as all the Webheads one by one took their leave.
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Homestead
ICQ logs
MAD: (2:43 PM) rember Tomas in
Brazil?
Vance: (2:44 PM) Yeah, of course. I remember every Webhead, everything I
know about each one.
MAD: (2:46 PM) he sent me something very heart breaking as a photo
but did an ok job translating...would you like me to forward it?
Vance: (2:47 PM) ok, send it via icq file xfer
Vance: (2:47 PM) So are you in touch with him regularly?
MAD: (2:47 PM) yes...I'll send it by email
Vance: (2:48 PM) If you email it, send it to v.stevens@mli.ac.ae. I don't
have access to my emirates email here.
MAD: (2:49 PM) ok...just sent it to the other...
MAD: (2:52 PM) now it is on the way to the one you just gave
Vance: (2:52 PM) checking ...
Vance: (2:55 PM) got the text, now send the image :-O
MAD: (2:56 PM) thought it goes with a forward...
Vance: (2:57 PM) so much for that theory
Vance: (2:57 PM) never assume LOL
MAD: (2:58 PM) hha...always has before...
Vance: (2:59 PM) Your friends have just been too polite to tell you
...
MAD: (3:00 PM) the imagine is of a black child not much more than a
baby sitting on the ground with his head down and a vulture nearly as big as
the child waiting in the background
Vance: (3:01 PM) I guess I 'get the picture'
Vance: (3:03 PM) I saw a kid in Ethiopia once sprawled on a street
corner in Addas Ababa his balls hanging out his shorts in mid day traffic all
around lying on his back arms outstretched totally oblivious in a land that
reeked of hunger. No flies. I don't think this kid was dead. Just very still.
One of many.
Vance: (3:05 PM) Same town, down the road, a very beautiful woman naked
from the waste up, clutching a baby to full breasts, tears streaming down her
cheeks, beyond begging, just crying amid the crowd moving all around. Same
crowds as passed the kid in the intersection. Me among them, carrying sugar
cane, wondering if I should give some to her ..
MAD: (3:08 PM) it's sick then when Bush says the US is in an energy
crisis...
Vance: (3:09 PM) The US is in a leadership crisis
MAD: (3:09 PM) the sight is so common to those people they ignore
it....
Vance: (3:12 PM) what can you do? I was eating dinner in a town where
they mob you when you step off the bus. So I'm eating anjera and wat and this
kid is standing in the doorway, belly distended, just watching the whole time,
watching me eat. When I left the restaurant I stopped and gave him a coin.
MAD: (3:12 PM) that Keenan guy is 47 and a Scorpio
Vance: (3:12 PM) The kid looked up like he couldn't believe it. And then
he ran off.
MAD: (3:14 PM) well...something should be done...Gates just moved up
a notch...he has start a fund organization to help with AIDS in
Africa...
[Items removed]
Vance: (3:14 PM) Did John send you his Wimba voice message?
MAD: (3:15 PM) no...talked to him last night too
Vance: (3:15 PM) on Excite?
MAD: (3:16 PM) no, here
MAD: (3:16 PM) wrote
Vance: (3:17 PM) oh, I tried to send a voice message to webheads but I
screwed up the email addresses.
MAD: (3:17 PM) happens...:-)
Vance: (3:18 PM) ok, I'm going to try again ... (just checked the
pending messages, none there - it got lost)
MAD: (3:19 PM) the guy is online
MAD: (3:20 PM) n/a though
Vance: (3:20 PM) so you had a conversation with him?
MAD: (3:21 PM) not yet...he added me to his list and he is now on
mine
MAD: (3:22 PM) even though I said that wasn't the reason for contacting
him...just wanted more info on Hearme
Vance: (3:22 PM) ahhh and what did he have to say about hearme
MAD: (3:23 PM) his handle is Blue Raven
MAD: (3:23 PM) he hasn't said anything yet...only that to authorize him
so he could give me more info
Vance: (3:27 PM) It will be interesting what you turn up. I wonder how a
guy like that manages or presumes to corner the market on hearme.
Vance: (3:28 PM) telcopoint has been a big bomb
MAD: (3:29 PM) your voice mail arrived....let me see if I cna send
you one back...
Vance: (3:29 PM) I just sent my voice mail and received the copy I sent
myself at work
Vance: (3:30 PM) cool. So it went out over the webheads list? That's
almost dangerous !! :-)
MAD: (3:32 PM) well...sent you one back....
Vance: (3:33 PM) It's also almost too easy! Incredible really. ... did
you send it to my emirates.net address? If so, I'll get it when I get home. Or
if you want to send it to the group, cc it to efiwebheads@yahoogroups.com
MAD: (3:34 PM) I just thought I
would see if it works...yes...it is very easy
Vance: (3:35 PM) Webheads is so cool. Michael turned us on to hearme and
wimba, and John sent me that message showing how easy it is. We are greater
than the sum of our parts. I'd been to the wimba site before but it wasn't
working back then.
MAD: (3:39 PM) I remember
MAD: (3:41 PM) k...the blue raven is now on...let's see if he contacts
me
Vance: (3:41 PM) woooo
MAD: (3:41 PM) yep, he did
MAD: (3:42 PM) he wants me to go to a site and voice chat with him
Vance: (3:42 PM) what if we all turned up !!! :-0
Vance: (3:47 PM) How's it going over there. He hasn't tied you up and
gagged you, has he?
MAD: (3:47 PM) not yet because his button isn't working
Vance: (3:48 PM) Is it an interface of the sort we're used to?
MAD: (3:49 PM) it is a button that says talk to me live and it should
open a window but it doesn't
Vance: (3:51 PM) sounds like a telcopoint interface. When you click on
the button or pass a cursor over it do you see the word 'telcopoint' appear
anywhere on the screen? Like at the bottom of the browser?
MAD: (3:52 PM) no nothing happened...he sent me another url and it
opens the BizSite voice Room
Vance: (3:53 PM) I understand that you visit a url and click on a button
there to then move to the voice room. Do you see telcopoint anywhere on any of
those screens?
MAD: (4:01 PM) no...but there is a pile of people there
Vance: (4:02 PM) what's the url?
MAD: (4:04 PM) they are sending me their cafe url
Vance: (4:04 PM) Sue is in Yahoo
MAD: (4:08 PM) this is hearme...they have added stuff....security and
they say making more stable
Vance: (4:09 PM) good
MAD: (4:09 PM) he gave me this to check out http://voicecafe.optecs.net
Vance: (4:11 PM) ok, we can hold
down the fort here if you want to play. Sue has just joined us in
excite.
MAD: (4:11 PM) hang on
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Homestead
Yahoo and Excite chat logs
mysailing:
hi
vance_stevens: Hi there. How
are you?
vance_stevens: Did you get my voice message by any chance?
mysailing: fine.
mysailing:
I read the mails which you sent everyday
vance_stevens: I just sent a voice message to the webheads list and
I'm wondering if people got it.
mysailing: i did not notice
yet. But i am afraid i can not enter the palace,i tried before but
failed
mysailing:
is maggi there?
vance_stevens: No worries. Maggi is on ICQ at the moment talking to
someone about voice chatting.
mysailing: i have not met
her for a long long time
vance_stevens: Have you met John Steele? He's another teacher just
joined us.
mysailing: no, i do not know
him
mysailing:
where are you all chatting now?
vance_stevens: Well, one place is the homestead site, http://www.homestead.com/vstevens
vance_stevens: Another is the voice chat,
excite. Want that one?
mysailing: ok, tell me the
address, let me try.
vance_stevens: http://www.excite.com/communities/chat/voicechat/rooms and GO! Webheads
mysailing:
i have no member name and address
vance_stevens: Sign in as a guest
vance_stevens: I can't seem to lock in a
font :-(
vance_stevens: We see your messages in homestead. John replied.
mysailing: which room to
select?
vance_stevens: oh, webheads
vance_stevens: Then you put in a guest name after that
vance_stevens: We see you in Excite. Can you hear us?
mysailing: yes, i am looking
for microphone
[Sue found a microphone but was not able to get
it off hands-free. Either the software logged her on like that or her computer
was "holding down" the control key so that her microphone was open all the
time. This was a problem because Sue was listening through speakers and not a
headphone. So we would talk, and after ten or fifteen seconds, we would hear
what we had said come through Sues speakers and back to our headsets. In other
words, we could only talk a few seconds before our words would come back, so we
would stop talking. Then we might start again, but by then someone else had
started (because of the gap) so it was difficult to converse like that. Sue was
able to fix the problem for a while, but it came back again. This was the
reason for these conversations on the Excite one-to-one text chats:]
Vance:
sue is in hands free mode somehow and we hear our
voices on her speakers
Maggi:
very strange
Maggi:
how did she do that
Vance:
She just signed on and got on in hands free mode.
We havent' figured it out
Maggi:
some tech guys you are
[Sue is originally from around Beijing. She moved to Japan to
study the language there. Eventually she found work and has been living there
since. I asked her how she got that opportunity. Moral was quite interested as
he is from Kunming and has had recent interviews with Save the Children in
hopes of possibly working with them. In this dialog, I was helping Moral to
understand what Sue was saying, and also trying to record what was going
on.]
Vance:
I asked Sue how she came to leave China and go to
japan.
Vance:
Sue asked what job you were applying
for.
Moral:
is sue a webhead?
Vance:
of course
Vance:
http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/sue.htm
Moral:
thanks.
Vance:
What did you say, Moral?
Moral:
I said my ctrl key was stuck. but i was ok after
i stroke it heavily.
[Sue finally gave up on Excite and decided to join us in text chat
instead. We decided to go to Tapped In for that since Moral could not reach our
Homestead client. It was Sue's first time in Tapped In so I looked for her in
Homestead and in Yahoo to see where I could help her with Tapped in. She
returned to Yahoo ... ]
vance_stevens: Hi
mysailing: hi
vance_stevens: are
you ok sue?
mysailing: i am trying now
vance_stevens: ok, so use
the guest login
mysailing: yes, i did
vance_stevens: ok, are
you in the reception room?
vance_stevens: I think you have to type your name first don't
you?
mysailing: yes, do not know
how to talk, yes, i typed my name
vance_stevens: ok, are
you in Reception?
mysailing: got the reception
box message
vance_stevens: excellent,
now type /join vances
vance_stevens: that's
vance_stevens: /join vances
[Now our conversation shifts to Tapped In, where Sue has become
SRI-83. After a while, Sue returned to Yahoo to sign off]
mysailing: vance, i am
sorry, i am leaving for sleeping now
mysailing:
it is very nice to chat with you all again.
vance_stevens: ok, nice
to see you.
mysailing: say goodbye to
maggi, john, moral for me, please,
vance_stevens: Sorry
about the sound problem
mysailing: bye
bye
mysailing:
it is all right.
vance_stevens: Did you
reach Tapped IN?
mysailing: yes, but it does
not work well
vance_stevens: Were you
SRI-83?
mysailing: ok, i am leaving
now.
vance_stevens: Ying Lan
just arrived.
mysailing: i think that is
me, i am not sure
mysailing:
convey regard to Yinglan too
mysailing:
meet you all next time
vance_stevens: OK, well
we enjoyed talking to you.
mysailing: thanks again,
vance. and the new word interpretor
mysailing:
bye bye
vance_stevens: Don't
worry about the sound problem. Must be your keyboard.
vance_stevens: See you next week maybe.
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Homestead
Tapped In logs
[John and Moral are both Tapped In members. Each has his own
recorder to email him a copy of the chat. This is noted in the logs so that
everyone else will see that the logs are being recorded.]
JohnSte arrives from nowhere.
Johns_Recorder follows JohnSte to
here.
MoralL arrives from nowhere.
MoralL's personal recorder follows
MoralL to here.
JohnSte says, "Hi, I told Moral we were coming here."
MoralL says, "hi, Vance."
JohnSte asks, "How are you Moral?"
MoralL
asks, "I am fine, thanks. and you?"
VanceS says, "I'm trying to get Sue
here still"
JohnSte says, "I'm better. I was without a computer for two
weeks (since the last time we spoke)."
MoralL says, "oh, i feel terrible
without computer."
JohnSte says, "So did I."
SRI_83 [guest] arrives
from nowhere.
JohnSte says, "I was depressed and feeling bad the whoe two
weeks."
VanceS exclaims, "There, we got Sue here!"
SRI_83 [guest] says,
"but i can not hear the voice" [Sue is the only one in Tapped In not also
talking in the Excite chat room]
JohnSte says, "Hello, Sue."
MoralL
asks, "do you live in Rico?"
JohnSte says, "I live in Puerto Rico. That is
a small island in the Caribbean Sea."
JohnSte says, "It is a territory of
the United States, but the language here is Spanish."
SRI_83 [guest] asks,
"are you all using voice chatting?"
MoralL says, "yes."
JohnSte says,
"Yes, we are."
VanceS says, "Yes, we still are. Ying Lan just arrived.
Michael is there. I'll get them to come here."
VanceS says, "If we have two
chat rooms, one for voice and one for text, we can all join together."
MoralL says, "I knew it. John. I just check the world map a couple of days ago.
I never knew it before."
JohnSte says, "I married a girl from Puerto Rico
and then moved here 30 years ago."
MoralL says, "you are sincere for
love... I haven't met a girl like this...:)"
JohnSte says, "Now I am
working for the University of Puerto Rico."
JohnSte says, "Well, I was
lucky."
MoralL says, "yes, you were."
JohnSte says, "Today, we will
have the first Major League baseball game in Puerto Rico."
MoralL asks,
"league?"
JohnSte says, "There are two leagues (National League and
American League). Each of these has a number of teams."
VanceS says, "OK,
I'm here now"
Michael [guest] arrives from nowhere.
VanceS says, "I had
to close up all my other windows."
JohnSte says, "I don't know what teams
are coming. But it is the first time any major leabe baseball team comes to
Puerto Rico."
Michael [guest] exclaims, "hello!"
MoralL says, "then
league must mean association."
JohnSte says, "Hi, Michael."
MoralL
says, "Hi, Michael."
JohnSte says, "Yes, I guess that is how you would
define it."
MoralL asks, "do you often go the the us, john?"
MoralL
says, "...go to ..."
JohnSte says, "I go every two or three years. I will
be going again next year."
JohnSte says, "Next time I go, I will stay for
a year instead of just visiting family."
MoralL says, "life in Puerto Rico
must be different with the us..."
JohnSte teleports to the reception.
JohnSte arrives from nowhere.
Johns_Recorder follows JohnSte to here.
ying [guest] arrives from nowhere.
JohnSte says, "Hi, Ying."
ying
[guest] says, "hi ying"
MoralL says, "hi, yinglan."
ying [guest]
says, "Thanks"
ying [guest] says, "Hi Morall"
Michael [guest] asks,
"who is sri_83?"
JohnSte says, "That is Sue."
ying [guest] asks,
"What's up here?"
JohnSte asks, "Who all is here?"
Michael [guest]
exclaims, "I'm here!"
JohnSte says, "I'm here"
VanceS says, "I'm
here."
MoralL says, "I am here."
VanceS says, "I think all of us are
now in Tapped In and in Excite."
VanceS says, "So this is the ideal
interface now."
ying [guest] says, "I am here..."
VanceS asks,
"Anybody want to go hang gliding?" [This was an invitation to visit the
Palace. No one accepted :-( ]
VanceS says, "Ying Lan had the usual busy
week."
VanceS asks, "She worked like a ... ???" [Ying Lan has said the
word in Excite; Vance didn't understand exactly.]
VanceS asks, "call
girl?"
Michael [guest] says, "explanation"
JohnSte says, "Oh, OK."
VanceS says, "You mean you ... she worked next to a cell phone all day .."
VanceS exclaims, "A phone call girl !!"
ying [guest] says, "Not
really..."
ying [guest] says, "I am a phone call girl ... but I drave all
day with a cell phone."
ying [guest] says, "drive"
VanceS says, "I'm
working near some CALL labs"
ying [guest] asks, "You asked me?"
JohnSte says, "That sounds like where I work."
ying [guest] asks, "You are
a call boy??" [In Vance's work, CALL means 'computer-assisted language
learning']
VanceS says, "There is no electricity in the wall sockets in
the labs"
JohnSte says, "No, Ying, I meant what Vance was saying about not
having anybody to open the room."
Michael writes on the whiteboard...
Michael writes on the whiteboard...
JohnSte writes on the whiteboard...
MoralL asks, "michael, how can i view the whiteboard?"
ying [guest]
projects VanceS.
Michael [guest] exclaims, "Moral - you're being very quiet!"
VanceS writes on the whiteboard...
JohnSte says, "click on the whiteboard,
then type your message and click on Write on Whiteboard."
JohnSte writes on
the whiteboard...
VanceS writes on the whiteboard...
The printer
begins to hum as JohnSte prints out the data from the VanceS's Office...
Michael [guest] exclaims, "I don't know how I got to the whiteboard!!!"
JohnSte projects Copy of VanceS's Office whiteboard (04/01/01).
Hi Vance! I just stopped
by to check out your office. I have to login with a text client at home,
because my version of Netscape doesn't seem to handle the java well enough.
Look for you on line. JerryB
I found it!
Hi, Vance.
what are we
doing here |
Michael [guest] asks, "you still here Ying?"
The printer begins to
hum as JohnSte prints out the data from the VanceS's Office...
JohnSte
projects Copy of VanceS's Office whiteboard (04/01/01).
JohnSte projects the URL:
http://www.towerofenglish.com
VanceS
asks, "Good John, how did you do it?"
VanceS says, "Start in Whiteboard"
VanceS says, "Click on print to note"
The printer begins to hum as
JohnSte prints out the data from the VanceS's Office...
VanceS says, "The
click on edit"
The printer begins to hum as VanceS prints out the data from
the VanceS's Office...
JohnSte projects Copy of VanceS's Office whiteboard
(04/01/01).
JohnSte projects the URL:
http://www.towerofenglish.com
JohnSte
asks, "OK, did you all get those instructions?"
VanceS projects Copy of
VanceS's Office whiteboard (04/01/01).
VanceS projects the URL:
http://www.mli.ac.ae
VanceS says, "OK
now click on Virtual CALL Tour"
JohnSte says, "I only have a couple of
minutes left here."
JohnSte asks, "Is anybody here going to present at
TCC?"
Michael [guest] says, "not me John"
VanceS says, "I'm not
presenting there"
MoralL asks, "tcc? what is it?"
JohnSte says,
"Teaching in the Community Colleges (The Online Conference)"
MoralL says,
"thanks. i got it."
Michael [guest] says, "april 9-11"
Michael
[guest] says, "I have to go everyone. Have a good week."
MoralL says, "bye
michael." JohnSte says, "Well, sorry, but I gotta go now. I'll see you all next
week."
ying [guest] says, "bye"
MoralL says, "bye"
MoralL has
disconnected.
JohnSte has lost his link.
VanceS has disconnected.
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Homestead
Homestead logs
Connecting to chat server...
Connected and signed in.
You have joined the chat room as Anonymous32.
Members of room: Anonymous32
You have changed your name to Vance.
Anonymous6679 has joined the chat room.
Anonymous6679 is now known as John.
Anonymous61 has joined the chat room.
<Anonymous61> hi, i am here
Anonymous61 is now known as Sue.
<Sue> it seems no one is here
<John> Hello, Sue, how are you today?
Sue has left the chat room. [Sue leaves to find
Vance in Yahoo]
Anonymous647 has joined the chat room.
Anonymous647 is now known as Sue.
<Sue> i am here lah
<John> Hi, sue.
<Sue> Hi, John
<John> Have you made any boat trips lately?
Anonymous4361 has joined the chat room.
<Sue> no, not yet
Anonymous4361 is now known as Maggi.
<John> Hi, Maggie
<Maggi> Hi
<John> This is the first time I have been able to use excite voice
chat.
<Sue> me too
<John> Two weeks ago I had to send my computer to the technician
and just got it back.
Sue has left the chat room.
[Sue has now gone to the Excite chat room. Now
there is no chat in Homestead for a while. Everyone is talking in
Excite.]
<Maggi> that static is juk
John has left the chat room.
Anonymous557 has joined the chat room.
Anonymous557 is now known as Sue.
<Maggi> Hi Sue
<Vance> Hi Sue. We can talk you into tapped in from here
<Vance> Start at http://www.tappedin.org
Anonymous85 has joined the chat room.
Anonymous85 is now known as John.
<Vance> When you reach tappedin.org use the guest login
<Vance> are you there Sue? [Sue has gone over to Yahoo to get
instructions on reaching Tapped In]
John has left the chat room.
Sue has left the chat room.
Anonymous579 has joined the chat room.
<Anonymous579>
<Anonymous579>
<Anonymous579>
<Anonymous579>
<Anonymous579> HI Vance
<Anonymous579> Didn't say where you were waiting for us
<Anonymous579> of course by now you must have all gone home
<Anonymous579> still did drop by.......
<Maggi> I'm still here
<Maggi> who is this?
[We find out later that this was Sophie. We were away in the Tapped
In and Excite windows and weren't watching Homestead.]
Anonymous4616 has joined the chat room.
<Maggi> hallo?
<Anonymous4616> hello.
<Anonymous4616> How are you doing Maggi?
Anonymous4616 is now known as Juani.
<Anonymous579> hi Maggi!
<Juani>
<Anonymous579> Where is everyone?
<Anonymous579> hi
Anonymous579 is now known as Sophie.
<Sophie> this is me
<Sophie> Sophie
<Sophie> Are you in Germany Maggi?
<Juani> me,,here.
<Sophie> Hi Juani
<Sophie> where are you from?
<Juani> Hi Sophie.I´ from Chile
<Juani> tenth region, Region of the Lakes..
<Maggi> hi guys
<Sophie> That's far away. I used to know someone from Chile. She
was very nice
<Sophie> HI Maggi
<Sophie> Is everyone else gone?
<Sophie> Region of the lakes? sounds romantic
<Maggi> most are in Tapped in and a voice chat at Excite
<Juani> yes,it ´ beautiful..
<Sophie> How long are you staying there do you think? or is
everyone leaving?
<Sophie> Do you read literature Juanni?
<Juani> mountains,lakes,water sports....
<Maggi> not yet
<Vance> Hi. Maggi just told us you were here
<Sophie> Who's there?
<Vance> Were one of you guys here earlier?
<Juani> yes..are you suggesting some new reading?
<Sophie> Hi Vance!!!
<Vance> HI
<Sophie> Yes, I was here first
<Juani> not me..I just came
<Juani> Hi Vance..
<Maggi> John just left
<Vance> We're saying bye to John in Excite, and also Michael
<Sophie> I love Alliende
<Sophie> send my smiles over to them
<Maggi> Michael is going now
<Sophie> Bye Michael
<Maggi> Ying too
<Juani> oh.you mean isabel Allende?
<Sophie> yes, Isabel
<Sophie> She's great
<Juani> yes,she is a great writer.
<Sophie> Do you like her?
<Sophie> oh I am glad you agree
<Juani> yes,,,everyone in Chile has read some of her books,I
think
Anonymous56 has joined the chat room.
Anonymous56 is now known as Michael C.
<Sophie> hi Michael!!!!
<Michael C> Hi - Sophie - are you there?
<Michael C> You are!
<Sophie> I was just going to say bye
<Vance> Hi I'm back here again too
<Maggi> now he can say good night himself
<Sophie> I am here indeed!!!!!!
<Michael C> I guess there's no news about money?
<Sophie> how are you guys?
<Sophie> Things are not entitely negative.
<Michael C> Whcih means that I won't be there...not entirely
negative?
<Juani> it´s morning here in my country.10:00 a.m
<Sophie> I get "OK, let us think about it" people are positive
overall - it just takes time
<Sophie> It's also a bit tough cause I am doing all the
running.....
<Michael C> But flights are booking up
<Vance> Make reservations
<Michael C> Yes sir!
<Sophie> Can't you book but not pay - just reserve a seat
<Sophie> I am really trying
<Michael C> I probably can. Do you think that there's still a
chance?
<Sophie> I'm waiting for an answer from two places now
<Juani> where to?
<Sophie> I really want to get you guys together
<Michael C> Juani - I might go to a conferece in Cyprus.
<Sophie> Then I'll make histroy!!!!!!!!!
<Michael C> conference
<Michael C> That's true Sophie!
<Sophie> history
<Maggi> history?
<Sophie> : )
<Juani> oh..that seems interesting
<Sophie> Let me push them some more Michael
<Michael C> OK...
<Juani> what´ s the conference about?
<Sophie> Things would be easier to ge money from the central
budget...
<Michael C> I'll just wait for the word but won't hassle you by
askng anymore!
<Sophie> but it seems costs keep accumulating.
<Michael C> Of course they do
<Sophie> and the one in charge seems to be afraid to give me the
money for your travel grant
<Vance> You can get the url for the conference at
http://www.vancestevens.com/papers/cyprus2001
<Michael C> The conference is about CALL Juani -
computers and language learning
<Vance> Juani had some great news last week. Did everyone read
about it?
<Sophie> so I've been asking elsewhere
<Michael C> No - what news?
<Sophie> what news?
<Juani> thanks,it´ really a good theme
<Sophie> well, we are waiting for the news
<Sophie>
<Vance> (waits for Juani to tell everyone her news)
<Sophie> .....
<Sophie> !
<Vance> She's going to live in Mississippi for a year
<Juani> yes..I told you about my TEP programme.
<Sophie> what's TEP?
<Vance> It's a Fulbright program, right?
<Juani> not Mississipi,but Colorado.
<Michael C> That's great Juani.
<Juani> yes,they changed the place and the school-
<Vance> oh, Colorado!! Much better than Mississippi, for someone
from Chile
<Vance> You can't ski in Mississippi
<Juani> thanks,,my partnner from MS didn´ want to come to
Chile..
<Sophie> what's TEP?
<Vance> It's a Fulbright program, right?
<Juani> not Mississipi,but Colorado.
<Michael C> That's great Juani.
<Juani> yes,they changed the place and the school-
<Vance> oh, Colorado!! Much better than Mississippi, for someone
from Chile
<Vance> You can't ski in Mississippi
<Juani> thanks,,my partnner from MS didn´ want to come to
Chile..
<Sophie> what's TEP?
<Juani> so.my destination is Rifle City in CO..a public high
school
<Michael C> I HAVE to go! Keep me posted Sophie.
<Sophie> Anyway guys got to go
<Michael C> Bye!
<Sophie> Bye
<Vance> You lucked out, Juani!!
<Juani> Teachers Exchange Programme
<Sophie> thanks Juani
<Vance> That's great. Colorado is one of my favorite states!
<Sophie> Bye now
<Juani> yes..I think I am.
Michael C has left the chat room.
<Vance> Bye Michael
<Sophie> talk again guys
<Vance> too late
<Juani> what about the climate,there?
<Vance> Are you here for aminute longer Sophie?
<Sophie> OK Vance
<Sophie> what's up?
<Vance> Colorado is mountainous
<Juani> yes,it´s late for you all.
<Sophie> I've got your times
<Vance> OK, what are they?
<Sophie> just a sec.
<Vance> Talking about the conference now, Juani
<Juani> yes.ok
<Vance> I'm going to participate, and Michael might go too
<Sophie> 9:30 - 10:30a.m saturday may 5th
<Sophie> that's GMT = 2
<Vance> I've been thinking we can audiostream my plenary
<Juani> that sounds very interesting.
<Sophie> is this OK Vance?
<Vance> 9:30 your time?
<Sophie> yes
<Juani> yes..I wrote down the URL
<Sophie> anything else you want to talk about Vance?
<Vance> 7:30 GMT, ok
<Sophie> yes, that's it
<Vance> If you have a moment I could run some ideas by you
<Sophie> OK
<Juani> yes,please.
<Vance> I take it video stream is not on
<Vance> or is anyone working on that
<Sophie> just a sec I got to get my cat out of the way........
<Vance> I often have that problem
<Vance> lap cat
<Sophie> OK...
<Sophie> well, I've told them about it..
<Sophie> they weren't very excited
<Vance> We've been talking in exicte chat room and displaying
stuff in Tapped IN
<Sophie> : (
<Vance> I'm thinking, following tried and true webheads precepts
...
<Sophie> I don't know what to do about it. I simply do not have
the time
<Vance> keep it simple ... and free ...
<Vance> We can use existing free technology to simply open an
excite chat room and broadcast
<Vance> and display urls from tapped in
<Sophie> I might still meet some of the technicians but it is
something they haven't done before and ..
<Sophie> So tell me again your new ideas.... an excite chat room -
thats OK
<Vance> I just wonder if you're receptive to being so ...
experimental
<Vance> It could be done, and it would be revolutionary
<Sophie> well, things can go wring but as long as we can make a
smooth transmission from things not working....
<Sophie> The Minister will probably be attending your talk
<Vance> That's just it, that's exactly the correct attitude
<Sophie> we'll know in a couple of days
<Vance> I'm thinking here of inviting the whole world, so what's a
minister or two?
<Juani> good!
<Sophie> thing is since youa re the opening plenary....
<Sophie> you are bound to get the officials that turn up for the
opening
<Vance> No worries
<Sophie> plu you are the keynote talk
<Sophie> so please try and make everything understandable!!
<Vance> It WILL be. It will be edutaining and multimedia
<Sophie> they are really wondering what the firewall is!
<Sophie> I had to explalin it to the other members of the
committee!!
<Vance> Good. It's good to have some mystique and explain it
away.
<Vance> And we havent' even touched on the ERP phenomenon
<Vance> But there's a graphic at the website, to pique your
curiosity
<Sophie> ERP????? ( puzzled)
<Sophie> I have to visit again
<Sophie> edutaining they will like
<Sophie> so let;s get back to your ideas
<Vance> Yeah I put some stuff up over the weekend. It should be
fun. I do not read speeches. I'm extemporaneous
<Sophie> Excite voice chat - fine..
<Vance> OK, so for those listening, they can also have a way to
enjoy the graphics
<Sophie> Yeah, I hate people who read speeches
<Juani> me,too
<Vance> For this we would use tapped in or perhaps another html
based interface
<Maggi> don't scare Sophie
<Vance> Boy, me too, believe me ...
<Sophie> so you want to have excite voice chat and tapped in
<Sophie> that's not too diffiuclt
Juani has left the chat room.
[ ... and Sophie and Maggi and Vance continue to make plans for the
Conference. Webheads ARE invited!!]
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