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and a mystery guest, silent and never identified
Here are some things we talked about today: The US presidential non-election was the big topic. Read below to find out why John can't vote! (And no, he's not a convicted felon). After that, Vance was having a horrible time trying to maintain his connection, and we worried that this might affect the conferences we were presenting at the next day. As it turned out, the connection cleared up, and both conferences came off. You can click here to read the logs from the Networking 2000 Conference in Australia, and from our aborted attempt to join in TOHE 2000 in Indiana.
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John: Hi, Ying and Maggi
Maggi: Hi John
Ying: hi John
John: No, I have bronchitis
Maggi: no coffee yet eh John?
John: I keep getting coughing fits.
John: drinking my coffee now.
Maggi: oh...that's not good..
John: I get it every year about this time due to the change in the weather her in Puerto Rico.
John: I've just had to learn to live with it.
Maggi: the weather changes that much?
Ying: You have lived in Puerto Rico for 30 years?
Ying: Was I wrong?
John: Ying, you are correct.
John: The problem is the daily change in the temperature, from a ten degree spread every 24 hours to a 20 degree spread.
John: I thing 18 years of smoking didn't help much either.
John: I started smoking when I was 18 and quit when I was 36.
Maggi: might have made a difference in how your lungs adapt
John: That is probably problem right there.
John: What do you all hear or think about the US elections?
Maggi: although they say your lungs can clean up
Ying: It was a big surprise about US elections.
Maggi: the US election is starting to get ridiculous abroad
John: My lungs have cleaned up as far as the tar and nicotine are concerned, but the weather gets to them.
Ying: You never though it would happen.
John: If that happened here in PR, people would be shooting each other.
Ying: Did you vote ?
John: I never thought it would happen in the US.
Maggi: it is still warm at least there
John: I do not have the right to vote for president, Ying, but I did vote in my local elections.
Maggi: last time it was this close was Nixon and JFK
Ying: You are Amercian... why do you not have the right to vote it?
John: Yes. and I remember it.
Maggi: Nixon had the popular vote but not the electoral college
John: Ying, to vote for president you have to be registered in one of the fifty states or in Washington DC
John: That means people who live in foreign countries who are still registered can vote.
Maggi: for the sake of the country and the stability of the government he surrendered to JFK
Ying: You are not registered.
John: I live in a territory that has no voting rights, so I lost my right to vote for geographical reasons.
John: It is a complicated story, Ying.
John: Maggi, who should surrender now?
Maggi: same thing with me Ying
John: Nobody who lives in Puerto Rico is allowed to vote, even though we are all citizens of the United States.
Ying: But I heard some American who live in another country... they can vote .
Maggi: I never registered to vote before I left the US 28 years ago...
Maggi: yes, if they are registered Ying in a state
John: I had the chance to vote one time, didn't bother voting, and then moved to PR.
John: That is why I am so insistent with my daughters that they vote even if they don't have a real preference.
Maggi: this election shows that your vote counts...
John: If I ever move back to one of the states, I will regain the right to vote.
John: It sure does show that, Maggi.
Ying: John.. Where do your daughters live? In USA or Puerto Rico?
Maggi: I guess I should have checked if it was possible to register here to vote...
John: They live here in Puerto Rico. One is a tour guide, one is an accountant, and one is a student.
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Maggi: hi Michael
John: Hi, Michael.
Ying: Will they want to go back to US?
Ying: Hi, Michael.
John: They have never lived there, Ying. They were born and raised here in PR, Ying.
Ying: OH. Maggi .. why is your voice so down?
John: Two of them say they will move to the US if Puerto Rico ever becomes independent.
Ying: It is better..
John: The youngest, is an independence supporter.
Ying: Did they study in USA?
John: No, they studied-study in Puerto Rico.
John: God forbid.
Ying: John... I don't understand.. this sentenc.
Ying: Puerto Rico is not independent now.
John: In four more years he will be the first husband.
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John: Ying, Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States. It is not an independent country.
Maggi: Hi Vance
Ying: Why will your daguther move to USA if Puerto Rico becomes independent.
John: It is technically an unincorporated territory.
Vance: hi. just getting set up here.
John: They don't believe in Independence, Ying.
Michael: Hi vance. How's the knee?
Ying: You said.. they youngest daughter is an independence suppoter.. so she will be glad if Puerto Rico becomes an independent.
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John: Yes, she will.
Michael: I'm amazed!
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John: Did to me.
Maggi: What was that?
Ying: Why will she want to leave ....
Vance: We've got awful connectivity here these day.
Ying: Did to me.
Vance: days
Ying: awful?
Vance: Yeah, just happened to me.
Vance: I'm just getting fragments of your speech here.
John: She wouldn't want to, Ying, but her sisters do not support independence.
Vance: snippets
John: Fair, Vance.
Ying: I see.
Vance: Yeah, sure, that would be nice
Vance: Please send the log, nice, thanks
Ying: I can not here what you said,,, Vance.
Maggi: ok,,,everybody sop writing for a minute...
Maggi: stop
Ying: It might be the connection problem.
Vance: stop writing?
John: I couldn't hear either.
Maggi: yes1
Vance: Maggi, stop talking!
Vance: Get your elbow off the f9 key
Michael: I can hear everyone.
Michael: The speaker was lit up.
Vance: now two icons are lit up green
Michael: Can you hear me Vance?
Michael: Vance is sulking....
John: I heard Michael and Ying, but I don't know if Vance heard us.
Ying: I think.. it could be the connection problem in Vance country.
Michael: LOL
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Maggi: you need a boat in England
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John: I wouldn't want to live there, Maggi.
Vance: live where?
Ying: England.
Vance: In Germany?
John: England, with all the rain and flooding.
Michael: Any sound Vance?
Vance: I'm only getting bits of the spiken pars
Vance: spoken parts, sorry
Michael: That's unusual for you.
Ying: Are you sulking? Vance
Ying: It is the first time, I know the word "sulky".
Ying: He did not answer my question... I think Vance would be busy now.
Ying: It is unusual for Vance.
Maggi: we had a storm here
Michael: Sulk is a good word.
John: It stopped raining here about a week ago. Maybe we will dry out.
Ying: Sulk is a good word?
Vance: No, I just got about 4 lines of dialog
Michael: Yes Ying. It is a good ine to add your vocab.
Vance: I could hear only bits of speech
Ying: It means unhappy,,, or angry.
Maggi: but not much rain compared to England
Maggi: there seems to be no end for them
Vance: Not sulking, I'm trying to go on with my dialup, maybe get a better connection
Vance: it's al gone silent again
John: Here we just had the normal one or two hours a day, Maggi
John: We just entered out dry period.
Vance: You never know what I DO hear, though Maggi
Vance: What was your question, no I didn't hear that
Maggi: haha...
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John: It rains about once a week instead of everyday.
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Ying: That's good. John.
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Ying: Have you read the book... "The celestine Prophecy"?
Michael: Does that make you go mad MAD?
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John: Yes, Ying, it is very good. We can dry out and not worry about the grass growing so tall.
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Ying: The amazing Mr. V?
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John: Vance, I think, Ying.
The amazing Mr V: It's ME
Ying: Have we met before?
Ying: I read it in Chinese version...
Michael: Yes.....
Ying: maggi.. have you read it?
The amazing Mr V: Doesn't seem to be any better over here
The amazing Mr V: no voice at all
Ying: How do you think it?
Michael: A shame Vance. What's the problem?
Maggi: loved it
Ying: Really?
John: I haven't read it, Ying. What is it about?
The amazing Mr V: I'm sort of frozen on "Maggi is talking" here
Ying: It is talking about the nine insight ..
Michael: Maggi isn't talking.
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Maggi: no...not me...:-)
John: What is the nine insight, Ying?
Vance: Actually I'm stil here
Vance: I just got bumped from the amazing connecton
Vance: on my laptop
Maggi: the nine insights are the steps to reach a heightened awareness
Ying: James Redfield wrote a novel, a story, to entertain and enlighten those who are ready to see and hear. I had many unanswered questions concerning my spirituality and purpose, some have been answered by the Nine Insights. I think this is a must read book
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Vance: So what book are you talking about
Michael: Is hearme just having an off day in UAE?
John: Ah, I think I would like to read it.
Ying: Just copy from the amazon.com
The amazing Mr V: Did you guys hear that? I never heard it on my other computer
Michael: It's breaking up badly Vance.
Ying: We are talking about the book "The Celestine Prophecy".
John: I'll do that, or have my library order it.
Maggi: there he goes in the crack
John: You came in loud and clear here, Vance.
Michael: Try and say something again.
Maggi: yes, Ying I agree...it is a must read book
Vance: I believe it is
Ying: Do you agree the nine insight?
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Vance: Pretty ridiculous
Vance: We've been having abysmal connectivity all week
Maggi: what is ridiculous Vance?
Vance: What book are you talking about?
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Michael: Bad news for the conferences if you have a bad connection!
Maggi: the Celestine Profecy
Ying: The celestine prophecy
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Ying: It is novel ...
John: So do I.
Ying: it is a adventure story to discover your mind.
Vance: The celestine prophecy?
Ying: yes. it is.
John: Depends on the philosopher, Maggi.
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Ying: I don't know it really help me or not...
Ying: It is interesting to know the energy theory.
Michael: Nothing is an accident....
Maggi: yes...and it fits in with physics too
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Michael: And maybe there is no such thing as chance?
Ying: Did you get the Vance's message by ICQ?
Vance: Icq is working. But this isn't (for me)
Vance: did someone use the name system a moment ago?
John: What is the name system?
Ying: What is the name system?
Michael: Do you want to move to somewhere else Vance?
Vance: sorry, the name "system"
Vance: I got a message from "system"
Maggi: LOL
Michael: I didn't Vance.
John: I didn't.
Ying: I did not get this message.
Vance: To quote: System: Bad news for the conferences if you have a bad connection!
Maggi: it didn't appear here
Maggi: that was mc
Ying: that's Michael said,.
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Vance: Move? Like Australia maybe?
Vance: I'm in all the other chats. Join me where you like.
Michael: Very strange things are happening on your end Vance! Yeh - come to Oz.
John: As long as it isn't England.
Maggi: Let's all go!
Michael: Well if you can read and write hear we may as well stay here.
Vance: Well, this seems to be working for the mement
Vance: John's in the Palace
Michael: I had this crazy the other day - do you think there is a sposnor in the worls who would pay for all we bhaeds to get together in one place for a meeting?
Michael: Crazy idea....
Maggi: sounds nice....-)
Vance: Yeah, I'll say. Since we generate no revenue ...
Ying: Who is the sposnor?
John: Great idea
Michael: Maybe it could be an advertising thing....
Ying: Webhead is not a famous group on internet...
Michael: Palace, Hearme, Homestead....Real Audio - they could be sponsors. Or .....
Michael: maybe a team of sponsors.
Maggi: a little bit from each and we plug them
Ying: Someday We meet in the real world..
Michael: Yeh Maggi. That kind of thing.
Vance: I just pressed the f9 key and nothing happened
Michael: Get it in the papers and on the media.
Vance: At least I'm getting text
Ying: No.. vance.. I heard the noise sound.
Michael: Well there was static.
Michael: YES!!!
John: I heard someone click on and off. You just came in loud and clear, Vance.
Vance: I just talked. But once someone talks, the icon stays green here
Vance: Now it just went off
Ying: Do you think it would be true.. we can find the spnsors..
Ying: It costs fortune.
Vance: I heard Michael and Ying but Michael is still a bit green in the icon
Michael: LOL...
Michael: I feel a bit queezy (green)
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Ying: USD50,000?
Vance: Voice seems to be overwhelming this
Michael: It would cost 50,000 dollars to get all webheads together.
John: You are all welcome here.
Ying: If I visit Australia someday.. may I live in your house by free?
Vance: This is not good news. None of teh chats are working properly
Vance: The Palace is lagging now.
Ying: I could sleep in couch.
Vance: Michael, John, did you get my message?
Vance: I mean, Maggi, John ... I can
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Maggi: you aren't in the Palace
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Michael: Which message Vance?
John: Which message, Vance?
Ying: What kind of message did you send?, Vance
Maggi: this is driving Vance up the wall...
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John: I hope it's not like this tomorrow.
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Michael: V - Were you going to do the conferences from home or work tomorrow?
Ying: Vance is going to be crazy?
Vance: I'll be at work
Michael: Is your work connection OK?
Vance: I AM at work
Vance: I returned here.
Michael: oh!
John: Hmmm.
Michael: Well we'll just have a go and see what happens eh?
Ying: Go where?
John: Yep. I have a student evaluation the hour before the conference, but I hope to be able to attend.
Michael: To the conferences Ying. Did you read the email yesterday?
Ying: when is the conference?
Michael: There was one from me and one from Vance.
Ying: The same time with Sunday?
John: Is that the message Vance mentioned?
Ying: GM
Ying: GMT 13:00? is it right?
Vance: I got that. Email is working
Michael: There are 2 tomorrow......I''ll check the times for you Ying...the first one in 11.00 am in Taiwan.
Vance: I'm checking the website on teh dialup now
John: That would be 11:00 PM tonight, my time.
Michael: 3.00 am GMT
Ying: But I will be work at that time (11:00 am)
Michael: The second one is 13.00 GMT
Michael: Yes Ying I thought so.
Ying: When is 13:00 GMT in Taiwan.
Vance: What are the password details?
Vance: I don't have them to hand.
Michael: 13.00 gmt = 9.00 pm in Taiwan.
Ying: 9:pm? but the line is hard to connect here.
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Michael: Re passwrod details Vance - yours will be vance.stevens/password
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Michael: Re password details Vance - yours will be vance.stevens/password
Ying: It is hard to connect on line from 9:00 pm to 12:00p.m here.
Michael: Why?
Michael: Too busy?
Ying: Sometimes .. I saw Vance online, but I could not send the message to him by icq.
Michael: It's time for me to go....
Vance: I'll try from my end
Ying: What is the actural URL about the conference?
John: Sorry to hear that, Michael.
Vance: Michael, vance.stevens with password fails. I'll check my email.
John: But sleep tight.
Michael: I hopwe to see some of you tomorrow......the URL is.....
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Ying: Michael... have a good dream.
Michael: http://flexiblelearning.net.au/nw2000/
Maggi: slaap lekker
John: Do we need passwords, Michael?
Michael: From there you can log in.
Michael: John - if you'd like to join I'll send you a guest password. Or you could use Maggi's...
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John: If you would, send my a guest password.
Maggi: margaret.anndoty
Michael: ..but then everything you say will look like Maggi is speaking.
Maggi: password is password
Ying: Who is master of flexiblelearning.net.au?
Michael: A friend of mine.
Michael: Why do you ask Ying?
Vance: I couldn't get in as vance.stevens but I made it in as margaret.anndoty
Maggi: LOL
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Michael: Mmmm... did you get a password from conf. organisers?
Vance: Yes I did. I just checked my email and that was my name, vance.stevens
Vance: But authorization failed 3 times
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Vance: I got in before. It's not the first time I tried.
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Vance: Where will I find that room you mentioned?
Michael: OK let's hope it's all OK tomorow.
Vance: Oh, I know. I changed my password.
Vance: Uh oh, what was it ???
Michael: To find the chat room go to out paper via Talkback pavilion>our paper> click on chat at top of page > room 2
Michael: Good one Vance! You changed the password to???
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Michael: Michael: To find the chat room go to out paper via Talkback pavilion>our paper> click on chat at top of page > room 2
Vance: who me? never ...
John: See you, Michael.
Vance: I got it (cool thinking, maggi)
Michael: I'll stay on ICQ for a while vance if you need me...(re the conference)
Michael: Good night everyone.
Vance: talkback pavilion, there's a clue
John: Night, Michael
Ying: Good night
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John: Maggi, where do I send the logs?
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John: Ying, you seem to be quiet.
Vance: meanwhile, 13 gmt is 9 pm in Taipei. That's about now, as a matter of fact
Ying: I just check the URL: flexiblelearning.net.au
Vance: Is this the time we're meeting for the TOHE conference?
Ying: I don't find the gate of the chat room.
Vance: Ying, did you find the paper?
Ying: this one http://flexiblelearning.net.au/nw2000/index.html ?
Ying: I found the log in.... I don't have the user name and password.
Vance: We're in chat room 2
Vance: That's what Michael said.
Vance: I'm in the room now.
Vance: Anyone wanna come along?
Vance: This is looking hopeful.
Ying: The cost is AUD77 to get the password.
Vance: Have you tried the other moo? Anyone?
Maggi: use password Ying
Vance: I couldn't get that one working the other day.
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Vance: Wooo lost michae!!
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Vance: And Maggi
Maggi: now I see what I did wrong...dumb me
Vance: I was terminated from the Palace due to inactivity
Vance: This has not been my night.
Vance: Are you ok there Ying Lan?
Ying: I want to go now...
Ying: NO... I can not find the paper.
John: I cannot find the paper either.
Vance: They're in alphabetical order under coughlin
Maggi: I read it...it was very good.
Vance: I got back in the Palace
Maggi: I left and John did too
Vance: I've got the url of the chat rooms on the other computer.
Vance: Give me your email addresses and I'll send it to you.
Ying: Send it to me by email... ok?
Vance: It's rather long
Ying: It is time to go .... see you next week.
John: See you next week, Ying.
Ying: bye
Maggi: bye Ying
John: Where is room 2?
Vance: I'll just send it to webheads
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John: Found it. I shouldn't have any problem tonight.
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Vance: I am sending the email
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John: Maggi, I used your account to test my ability to enter the area. If I don't get the guest password in time, I'll use it tonight (my time) to attend the conference.
Maggi: ok...I have to get my act together...
Maggi: sure John...if it works why not.
John: I hope I get mine in time, though.
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Maggi: don't want to be a female imposter...LOL
Vance: hey there. I'm chatting withMichae in the chat room
Vance: so I guess that's working
Vance: there are minutes lag for the messages to get through
Vance: Hey Maggi, can you send me your version of the logs?
John: She lost them, Vance. I'll send them as soon as we finish today.
Maggi: yep
Vance: ok, thanks, I'm curious to see what I missed
Maggi: thank god for John
John: vstevens@emirates.net.ae right?
Vance: thass right
John: Talk about luck. I just happened to think of trying to copy them today, and it turns out to be good that I did.
Vance: thanks, nice to have a backup
John: Maybe I should try to save them every week.
Vance: OK, Michael has gone to bed, I remembered my password
Vance: And I've had it with chat this evening
Vance: I've never had so much trouble
Maggi: go have a beer and call it a day...
Vance: I think it's the UAE isp provider
Vance: monopoly provider, of course
John: Sound like a good idea, Maggi.
Maggi: little early though for you John...LOL
John: Not really, I could use some more sleep this morning.
Vance: Yeah, I've got an Arabic class tonight. That's a lot of fun, actually
Vance: But it's in an hour and a half, so going home would be a great idea
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John: Are you just now starting to learn Arabic?
Vance: Did you get tossed off too, or was it just me?
Maggi: well...I have to wash my haiur, cook something and get my stuff for classes tomorrow ready.
Vance: I've been learning Arabic for years now
John: Just you.
John: So it is an advanced class.
Vance: figures
Vance: Well sort of ...
Maggi: how much longer in the UAE?
Vance: We're not reading literature, but we try to talk in only Arabic
Maggi: sounds like a big sort....-)
John: I have to find the evidence for a change of grade for one of my students from last year.
Vance: Since it's at the Alliance Francais I don't mind so much when they slip into their own language
Maggi: up or down John?
John: Up. I never adjust a grade down. If I make an error in the student's favor, it's my mistake.
John: If I make a mistake that hurts a student, I try to change it.
Vance: Hope it's not a problem, much ado about nothing I mean
Maggi: I teach to the top...they all make it
John: No -- I just have to send all his work down to administration.
John: It's routine, really.
Vance: Michael likes the Interview idea
Maggi: I'm glad not to be in acadenia
Maggi: academia
John: Sounds good to me. I wish I could start, but I'm still waiting for authorization.
Vance: I meant the informal meet a student online and just interview idea
Maggi: I have to go drag my son out of bed...
Vance: It would be nice if we could get the students to interveiw each other
John: I know. I still think it's a good idea.
Vance: Maybe we could team them up
John: OK, Maggi.
John: Sounds like a good idea there, Michael.
John: Sorry, Vance.
Vance: That could be fun. Can't think why I didn't think of it earlier.
Vance: like maybe a year ago
Vance: just slow I guess
John: Too close to the trees to see the forest?
Vance: To busy with too many things to think straight
John: But, hey, you can't think of everything, can you?
Vance: Even my ftp isn't working well these days. Two sites are now giving call blocking errors
Vance: OK, John thanks for coming along again and i look forward to seeing your logs.
John: I just made a homestead site, and it seems to be better than geocities.]
Maggi: guess I should get some stuff done...
John: I'll send them as soon as we are finished here.
Vance: Do you mean with the page builder?
John: Right.
Maggi: you only need the logs with a student in them
Vance: But you can't upload to the root directory of your site where the page builder stuff is. That's a drawback.
Vance: Yeah, Maggi. Thanks.
John: Yes, that's right.
Maggi: bye guys
John: Bye, Maggi.
Vance: I'm not sure you can get it off of there, though you can download the page builder itself.
Maggi: ciao
Vance: Bye Maggi. Slap lecker.
Vance: slaap
John: I have it downloaded to my disk both here and at work.
Vance: schloff
Vance: schlaapf
Maggi: not yet Vance...and it is slaap
Vance: slog liquor
Maggi: Dutch...schlaf in German
John: Is that like grog?
Maggi: god nat in Danish
Maggi: jul glögg John
Vance: tisbah alkhair
John: buenas noches, in Spanish.
John: grog is a drink, Maggi.
Maggi: so is jul glögg
John: O.K.
Vance: slaap = sleep
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Maggi: same thing actually
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Vance: I give up
John: Maybe that's where "grog" came from?
Maggi: lekker= well
Vance: lecker = sweetly, or something like that
Vance: It's Dutch
Maggi: that's one place grogg came from
Vance: It's Webhead for "gotta run, bye"
Maggi: ta
John: OK.
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Vance: I'm shutting down all my toys
John: Sending the logs now.
John: See you later, Vance.
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