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Time: Mon Nov 13 13:25:09
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Vance
Stevens>>hello Syed, here for the presentation?
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Vance
Stevens>>Greetings all
Tracy Carpenter>>Good afternoon
Vance
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2000
Vance Stevens>>Good morning (7 a.m. here)
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Tracy
Carpenter>>Where are youVance, I'm in sunny Port Macquarie
Vance
Stevens>>I'm in Abu Dhabi
Tracy Carpenter>>I should mention that
Port Macquarie is in Australia, NSW
Vance Stevens>>I'm familiar with
NSW. I've been to Sydney.
Michael Coghlan>>Good afternoon all - I'll
just wait a few more minutes before we begin.(officially)
Vance
Stevens>>What about Lorelle and Syed, where are you this
morning?
Vance Stevens>>(afternoon, whatever)
Vance
Stevens>>(smiles)
Lorelle Champion>>I am actually in the same
room as Tracy, and several more of us are in the same 'actual' room!
Vance
Stevens>>Michael is down in Adelaide, so I guess that's not the same
room
Michael Coghlan>>OK Tracy. As there are just a few of us would
you like to introduce yourself Syed?
Michael Coghlan>>Normally it
would not be practical for all to introduce themselves.
Vance
Stevens>>Anyway, welcome. You are now all officially Webheads, but virtue
of being in the same virtual room
Vance Stevens>>by virtue
...
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2000
Michael Coghlan>>This is true. This will not be a moderared
discussion a ssuch....
Michael Coghlan>>The chat will be conduceted in
mych the same way as webheads conduct their online sessions...
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Sally--Murphy entered NW2K_Room_2. Time:Mon Nov 13 13:34:55 2000
Vance
Stevens>>And Hi Janice. Time for one more introduction if you'd
like
Vance Stevens>>and Sally ...
Vance Stevens>>Have any of
you attended online discussions or held online classes before?
Tracy
Carpenter>>No, I'm a virgin
Janice White>>Hi, I'm involved in a
Learnscope project team learning online skills, so that as a team we can better
empathise and support learners. In australia
Michael Coghlan>>Nicely
put Tracy.
Vance Stevens>>I mean, do you know what to expect? There's
no point in planning anything since people come and go so frequently
Vance
Stevens>>Would you agree Janice?
Janice White>>do you mean from
online discussions
Vance Stevens>>I kind of threw that out as a
thought provoker. But online discussions tend to be buffeted about on the whim
of the attendees.
Michael Coghlan>>Unless they are closelyt
moderated.
Sally Murphy>>What are some of the problems that online
students experience in their learning?
Janice White>>so do we have a
close moderator?
Michael Coghlan>>No Janice.
Lorelle
Champion>>So, how do you manage the moderation so that the discussion is
meaningful?
Michael Coghlan>>Unless things get chaotic with too many
people.
Vance Stevens>>This group is heading right off ON topic, so it
seems to be self moderating
Michael Coghlan>>I woulsd say thatbthis
many peolpel is almost the limit without moderation. What do you think
Vance?
Michael Coghlan>>6- 8 people will sefl-moderate.
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Tracy
Carpenter>>Do we have anyone who has /is complete an online
course?
Vance Stevens>>Depends on their self-focus. We've had
conferences with 20 attendees and they tend to stay on topic
Vance
Stevens>>Michael and I conduct http://www.netword.com/*webheads
Michael
Coghlan>>PAUSING A MINUTE FOR ANSWERS TO TRACY'S Q...
Lorelle
Champion>>I am doing one but there are forums rather than online
discussion and i find them lacking in immediacy.
Vance Stevens>>(nods
welcomingly to Colin)
Colin Alcock>>Tks Vance
Janice
White>>Yes, as an online learner (Teaching and Learning Online) I have
experienced self esteem blows and frustration but lots of satisfaction
too
Michael Coghlan>>But immediacy is not always best is it?
Janice
White>>:)
Vance Stevens>>I don't get it. You are conducting
forums online and this lacks immediacy? This isn't synchronous then
..
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Vance Stevens>>threaded discussion, I take it
Janice
White>>forums aren't synchronous are they usually
Michael
Coghlan>>What about reflection time - as in threaded discussions is
valuable....
Michael Coghlan>>Isn't it?
Vance Stevens>>would
you like to elaborate on self esteem blows, Janice?
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Janice White>>being
sent bizarre file format attachments and trying to resolve a problem without
asking for enough help!
Lorelle Champion>>No, Michael I also find the
dislocation of this kind of discussion unsatisfactory also. I would like to
know how to recreate the learning experience of a 'real'lassroom discussion, in
an online format
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Tracy Carpenter>>Smiles encouragingly at
Syed
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Michael Coghlan>>Lorelle...your q
Michael Coghlan>>The
webheads try this in various ways...
Michael Coghlan>>we use 3d chat
with avatars, and voice chat...
Vance Stevens>>Michael and I were just
discussing in our voice chat whether we should invite you there.
Michael
Coghlan>>which Vance and I are doing right now in the background.
(snap)
Vance Stevens>>Since you can be here and there too, if you want
to try it, why not?
Tracy Carpenter>>What's voice chat?
Michael
Coghlan>>Remember Vance is in the Emirates and I'm in Oz.
Janice
White>>please, i wnat to go too
Vance Stevens>>http://www.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/hearme.htm
Vance
Stevens>>If you haven;t used HearMe before there is a one-time plugin
installation
Vance Stevens>>And it requires that you grant java
security permissions
Tracy Carpenter>>If you're voice chatting do you
need a microphone? Are you chatting voice to voice as well as typing in the
chat room?
Lorelle Champion>>We do not have microphones on these
computers
Vance Stevens>>So if you're willing to do that and if you
have fast fingers, you can be doing that while you're talking to us
here.
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Vance Stevens>>One nice thing about hte Hear Me client is that
there is a voice chat component
Tracy Carpenter>>BAck to the online
learners, what sorts of the issues have they come across?
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Vance
Stevens>>I meant a text chat component
Tracy Carpenter>>Welcome
rosemary
Michael Coghlan>>In our case the biggest q is keepign an
assortment iof people entertained.
Vance Stevens>>If you have sound
cards you can hear us speak and respond in text
Michael
Coghlan>>Catering for diff interests and learning styles.
Michael
Coghlan>>I will discard the obvious q of tech problems for the
minute.
Vance Stevens>>I would say, keeping people communicating in
interesting ways so they enjoy learning ENglish without realizing that they are
doing that
Janice White>>.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/hearme.htm
Sally
Murphy>>Isn't this just the same as we do in a regular
classroom?
Janice White>>woops
Vance Stevens>>http://www.chariot.net.au/~michaelc/hearme.htm
Michael
Coghlan>>Yes - Sally. But it harder online
Michael Coghlan>>The
principles ARE the same in my opinion.
Tracy Carpenter>>Vance are you
on as an online learner or teacher?
Sally Murphy>>So what specifically
is the emphasis on?
Michael Coghlan>>(Michael laughs)
Vance
Stevens>>I co-teach with Michael, or co-facilitate.
Michael
Coghlan>>His Englosu does need improving!
Michael Coghlan>>as
does my spelling
Vance Stevens>>Is that what you speak down in Oz,
Englosu?
Rosemary Pullan>>Thankyou for the welcome Tracy I'm finding
it hard to keep up thats why I haven't contributed to the discussion
Janice
White>>yeahmate
Michael Coghlan>>The emphasis is on community
Sally.
Michael Coghlan>>Communication and sharing through
language.
Vance Stevens>>We've had a class going in one form or
another for around 3 years now
Sally Murphy>>Is it important to
establish this at the very beginning of a course?
Tracy Carpenter>>As
a first time chatter I am relieved at the light heartedness in the chatroom,
it's not too daunting after all, something to consider for the first time
student chatterers.
Janice White>>intonations in text form ARE sooooo
interesting
Rosemary Pullan>>Apart from chat and email, what other
ways is the community pulled together
Michael Coghlan>>It is not an
award or certificate course though. We use chat email, webpages, 3d and voice
chat...
Vance Stevens>>You can explore the community at
http://www.netword.com/*webheads
Michael
Coghlan>>and a class listserv
Vance Stevens>>There you can see
pictures of many of the particpants and read quite a lot about their interests
and concerns
Michael Coghlan>>All of these tools together allow
various options for students.
Rosemary Pullan>>Thanks will do after
this chat session
Vance Stevens>>We have 3 channels of
communication
Lorelle Champion>>What is 3d?
Syed Javed>>hi
folks... joining late... was out of room, distracted by other staff
inoffice
Vance Stevens>>Synchronous chat, an eclass listserv, and our
web pages
Michael Coghlan>>And we have weekly real time
meetings.
Janice White>>the pictures etc would really help, i've seen
chat where people can choose an icon to represent themselves and
sounds
Tracy Carpenter>>Did you bring the tim tams with you
Syed?
Vance Stevens>>For synchronous chat we have experimented with
pure text such as this
Syed Javed>>just coffee..:)
Vance
Stevens>>avatar based chat such as the Palace (mainly) and Active Worlds
(a little)
Tracy Carpenter>>P.S. a tim tam is a yummy choccy bikky for
Michael and Vance
Vance Stevens>>and voice chat, HearMe
Michael
Coghlan>>3d chat is online chat in a3 dimensional; context where you an
avatar (a physical rep. of yourself online
Syed Javed>>Michael what
the age group of your online class
Tracy Carpenter>>Where are your
students from michael and vance?
Vance Stevens>>Ranges from about 16
or 17 to 60 some-odd
Vance Stevens>>China, Brazil, Paraguay,
Taiwan,
Vance Stevens>>Puerto Rico, Jamaica ...
Syed
Javed>>do you have any problems in keeping them motivated?
Vance
Stevens>>Germany, Poland, Italy
Syed Javed>>I think working in
pairs with vance is a good idea
Michael Coghlan>>It is really
international - re motivation....
Rosemary Pullan>>Were the students
proficient chat ,email and computer communicators before they joined
Webheads?
Vance Stevens>>They come back week after week and have kept
an elist going for 2 years next Feb
Michael Coghlan>>it fluctuates
Syed. Soem are very busy in the community at one time while others are
not...
Tracy Carpenter>>What's your drop out rate like? If they drop
out do they give reasons for dropping out?
Michael Coghlan>>...as some
get busy with other activities then others in the class take on a more active
role
Vance Stevens>>The dropout rate is one of the most interesting
aspects,
Syed Javed>>how long did it take for your average student to
become at ease with this new medium? specially online chat?
Vance
Stevens>>We've built from a handful to 50 and had about 5
dropouts
Vance Stevens>>Lots of lurkers, a half dozen serious
participants
Lorelle Champion>>What is the course about?
Michael
Coghlan>>We try and make the community part of their life
(honestly)
Vance Stevens>>and another half dozen reappear from time to
time
Vance Stevens>>I don't think we try to do that. It just
happens.
Michael Coghlan>>It's about learning Englosh trough
friendship
Rosemary Pullan>>What do you mean a part of their
life?
Michael Coghlan>>er..English
Vance Stevens>>Do you mean
Englosu, Michael?
Janice White>>it's the time it takes to keep contact
regular with online community maybe - life impinges
Lorelle
Champion>>Is this a fee payiing course?
Michael Coghlan>>So that
they want to be in it, know us, and each other.
Vance Stevens>>Fee?
What?
Michael Coghlan>>we are all volunteers
Vance
Stevens>>Seriously, we use free internet tools and no money changes
hands
Syed Javed>>Tell us bit about your assessment
strategies
Vance Stevens>>We're even trying to work out a way to
produce a tshirt and get it to the students without having to pay for it. ANy
ideas?
Janice White>>do you learn your student's languages for free
then too?
Rosemary Pullan>>Is it possible to print out this chat
session as it progresses Syed?
Michael Coghlan>>Wooo - lot of
q's
Syed Javed>>i suppose u can cut-n-paste
Vance Stevens>>I
was asked about assessment at a TESOL conference once and I said well, the
students return week after week so it looks like we're being assessed pretty
well
Lorelle Champion>>We had a pen pal email happenning for some
students in japan to practise with colloquial English.
Rosemary
Pullan>>Thanks
Vance Stevens>>It is possible to go to places
where you can learn other languages for free
Vance Stevens>>I hope the
chat is being logged. Is it Michael?
Michael Coghlan>>yes
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Vance
Stevens>>Mundo Espaniol for Spanish ... French Palaces ...
Sally
Murphy>>Do you evaluate the success of the teaching/learning in any
way?
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Michael Coghlan>>Well that it via particpation rate.....
Vance
Stevens>>We have conducted questionnaire surveys and we've just been
joined by a phd candidate who plans to use us as part of his
disertation
Michael Coghlan>>if peoole come we now we are doing
ok
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Michael Coghlan>>...but we only mark studnet work on request.
Remember - it is not a formal course
Tracy Carpenter>>How did your
people find you?
Michael Coghlan>>emphasis is more on particpation and
community building
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13 14:05:09 2000
Vance Stevens>>When people write essays we correct
them before putting them on their web pages
Michael Coghlan>>through
an organisation called EFI initially (http://www.study.com)
Vance
Stevens>>We suggest they compare what they wrote with what they see on
the web and some respond that they do that and that it helps them.
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Rosemary
Pullan>>How is this program funded
Vance Stevens>>Our writeups
and research reports are at
http://www.homestead.com/_ksi0701961602163748/vstevens/files/efi/reports.htm
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Vance
Stevens>>Sorry, there's a frames artifact there ...
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Vance
Stevens>>http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/reports.htm
Michael
Coghlan>>As we said before Rosemary - the course is voluntary so no
funding required
Vance Stevens>>There is no funding. It's all
volunteer.
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Vance Stevens>>We do it in order to enhance our
knowledge and experience in synchronous and web-based communications
tools
Rosemary Pullan>>Sorry missed that before
Vance
Stevens>>The students do it because they like it and because it helps
them improve their English
Michael Coghlan>>That's an important
element...students come to this course to learn about the medium as well as
English
Vance Stevens>>We have corroboration of these assertions in
the fact that the students keep coming back
Michael Coghlan>>SWo they
tend to be technically competent.
Vance Stevens>>tell their friends
about us
Vance Stevens>>Our community is growing with little
attrition
Vance Stevens>>and we even attract other practitioners who
join in (one has come for the last 10 or 12 sessions)
Tracy
Carpenter>>Michael or Vance have you personaly ben learners in anyone
else's online learning course/e?
Tracy Carpenter>>Or anyone else in
the group?
Vance Stevens>>I've visited several but have never actually
taken an online course
Michael Coghlan>>I have Tracy....
Michael
Coghlan>>staff development course for lecturers
Vance
Stevens>>What did you take Michael?
Vance Stevens>>snap
Tracy
Carpenter>>Were you happy with the learner support/resources
etc?
Rohan Firminger>>Tracy: My outfit develops a host of online
courses in co-operation with training organisations
Rosemary
Pullan>>Yes I was a participant at Boxhill TAFE"teaching and Learning
Online" Syed was involved on the other side
Michael Coghlan>>Tracy -
not entirely. I find the whole exercise demanding and chaellenging
Tracy
Carpenter>>Rohan what issues have your learner's had?
Michael
Coghlan>>I wanted more personal support
Rosemary Pullan>>I agree
Michael the whole online learning process is very challenging
Rohan
Firminger>>Tracy: It depends on the type of course, and the needs of the
user. We have received a whole range of responses depending on how well the
course addresses learning flexibly
Rohan Firminger>>Tracy: issues
range between technical limitations, content, and interactivity
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Sally
Murphy>>I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about 'flexibel
learning'
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Tracy Carpenter>>Rohan if you hadn't heard from students for a
while did you go "looking" for them?
Sally Murphy>>The interactivity
seems to be critical factor
Vance Stevens>>One issue I see here is the
notion of what a course is ...
Vance Stevens>>When you ask if you have
ever taken an online course, you're putting the concept of a f2f course onto
that of an online one
Vance Stevens>>A f2f course is time and space
delimited
Vance Stevens>>An online course is not
Michael
Coghlan>>So what's your point Vance?
Michael Coghlan>>OK I
see!
Rohan Firminger>>Tracy, We are a commercial corporation, and our
response is proactive to our customer base. We respond as best we can to
feedback and constantly improve and update the range of online services we
provide.
Rosemary Pullan>>Overcoming the initial technical barriers is
pretty significant, once achieved our f2f communication skills are utilized in
a different medium
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Vance Stevens>>Well, there are the umbrella notions of
corporate product (time and product delimited)
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Vance Stevens>>And school
courses where you start at time a and finish at time b with grade c
Vance
Stevens>>(Or A, B, F etc)
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Vance Stevens>>BUT an online course can be
more like a community where you return now and then for support
Vance
Stevens>>I wonder if we're not trying to fit the old square peg into the
new round hole
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14:20:22 2000
Rohan Firminger>>Vance: I agree, our fastest growing
online areas involve self paced online learning.
Tracy
Carpenter>>Rohan, you're course seems to be at the other end of the scale
to Vance and Michaels, ie theirs is free and yours is fee driven, do you think
your students demand more because they are paying, and perhaps value it more,
and dirve themselves to complete it?
Vance Stevens>>Well, there are
these institutional notions of what a course is to contend with
Michael
Coghlan>>Are we wating for Rohan?
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Rohan Firminger>>Tracy, we
often work within the commercial world delivering to individulas who want
"performance enhancing" solutions in the workplace. In other areas we work with
teaching organisations to improve their delivery and ultimatley their reach
(making a more cost effective "bottom line").
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Michael Coghlan>>It seems
actually that the commercial world is having a good deal of success in OL
learning
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14:23:24 2000
Vance Stevens>>Some people want to pay for and see a
product. THis is a valid concern.
Michael Coghlan>>Unlike academic
institutions it does save them money.
Vance Stevens>>But when someone
asked if we'd ever 'taken' an online course ...
Michael Coghlan>>Hello
Ying!
Margaret Ann--Doty>>Hello my name is Ying Lan but I use the
password of Margaret Anndoty..\
Vance Stevens>>If you can set your own
goals, then you can learn whatever you want online
Rohan
Firminger>>All: There are worldwide markets for online learning. Indeed,
I recently attended and E-VET meeting discussing the concept of forming a
consortium to market internationally and domestically.
Michael
Coghlan>>Ying is a student in our community. From Taiwan
Vance
Stevens>>If on the other hand you want someone to package it for you and
deliver it to you then there are institutions to fill that demand
Margaret
Ann--Doty>>I am a student of Webheads... I live in Taiwan.
Vance
Stevens>>Hi Ying Lan. Hurray!! You're here.
Michael Coghlan>>So
you can Ying first hand of her experience
Margaret Ann--Doty>>(Ying
Lan) I am bad at my office... don't tell my boss.
Michael Coghlan>>ask
Ying I mean (we won;t tell Ying!
Rosemary Pullan>>Ying how much time
do you put into Webheads per month
Tracy Carpenter>>I'm still waiting
for a tim tam
Vance Stevens>>Me too, Ying Lan ..
Michael
Coghlan>>(smiles)
Rohan Firminger>>Did someone say "Tim Tam"????
Where ???
Rohan Firminger>
Margaret Ann--Doty>>Not so much...
you know we only chat on line once a week.
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Michael Coghlan>>But do you
read all tje messages Ying?
Margaret Ann--Doty>>(Ying Lan) But you can
write anything what you want to write and post it on webhead's mail
list.
Tracy Carpenter>>Ying what concerns do you have as an online
learner, are they addressed by Michael and Vance?
Vance Stevens>>Ying
Lan is the kind of person who sets her own goals and who can learn anything she
wants onlne
Michael Coghlan>>Good q Tracy!
Vance Stevens>>An
improved question: are they addressed by the community?
Margaret
Ann--Doty>>(Ying Lan) Three years ago, I was curisous how to study on
line... I joined the www.study.com, I met
David there...
Vance Stevens>>David Winet
http://www.study.com
Margaret
Ann--Doty>>I was a regulare student of study.com then David introduced
Vance and Michael to me.
Margaret Ann--Doty>
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Margaret
Ann--Doty>>Michael and Vance are great teachers whom I know.
Rohan
Firminger>>Tracy: How is Port Macquarie TAFE going??
Vance
Stevens>>We just create an environment for learning
Peter
Waterhouse>>Greetings to everyone. I'm Peter Waterhouse, one of the
authors of the paper that is the focus for this chat session. (A paper titled
Online learning & industry: questions to ask, things to consider
&)
I'm also pretty new to this whole online chat experience (so please
be gentle with me!)
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Michael Coghlan>>Looks like it;'s time we left!! so
Peter can do his session
Syed Javed>>Looks like another session has
started before the previous came to a close...
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Michael Coghlan>>Just give
us a minute to cloes Peter...
Tracy Carpenter>>Rohan, Lorelle says
"Hi" Port is wonderful, bye to all, welcome to all the next chatterers, thanks
for being gentle.
Rohan Firminger>>I'm interested in both
Margaret
Ann--Doty>>The best way to learn language is to use it.... So I hope I
can talking to native speakers to practice my English.. that's why I am
here.
Vance Stevens>>Why don't we seque into Peter's
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Syed
Javed>>thanks michael and vance
Michael Coghlan>>Thank you all
for coming. Vance and I will officially finsh and hand over to Peter.
Vance
Stevens>>I've got to run off and do some work related things but I think
I'll leave ths chat open
Peter Waterhouse>>I'm surprised at the number
of people here. Sorry if I jumped the gun. If you're here for the 'last
session' and you've got the time, why not stay?
Michael
Coghlan>>Please contact us oif you'd like more inof
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Vance
Stevens>>I'll be back in 20 min
Rohan Firminger>>Thanks
Michael
Vance Stevens>>Oh, and we have a session tomorrow
morning
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Vance Stevens>>http://www.ipfw.edu/as/2000tohe/.
Michael
Coghlan>>I actually have to go anyway. Thank you Ying for dropping in
from Taiwan
Vance Stevens>>another conference, please join
us
Michael Coghlan>>Thanks again everyone. Enjoy the next session.
Over to you Peter!
Margaret Ann--Doty>>It is time to say bye-bye
here?
Vance Stevens>>it's 13:00 gmt
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Peter Waterhouse>>Thanks
Michael, sorry to bust in on you like that.
Vance Stevens>>You can
stay, YL. There's another talk on. I'll be here after running off for a
minute
Michael Coghlan>>No problem Peter.
Rohan
Firminger>>Peter: I'm here for both sessions Peter, glad to
stay.
Vance Stevens>>over to you Peter ...
Margaret
Ann--Doty>>It's lauch time for me... I got to go.
Peter
Waterhouse>>Good to have you on board Rohan. Is there anyone else that
was intending to come to this session?
Cathy Dunn>>I am here for the
4pm chat
Peter Waterhouse>>Rohan can you tell me/the group a liitle
about your interest in online-workbased learning?
Vance
Stevens>>brb
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Rohan Firminger>>Peter: Yes indeed, I represent
Infosentials Limited, a content provider, "information House", and E-COM
company
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Rohan Firminger>>Peter: We develop online training (see "estream"
and "LearningFast" i the Exhibition hall)
Peter Waterhouse>>Thanks
Rohan. Vance, I'm sorry - I'm a new chum at this brb does not hold meaning for
me. Can someone explain?
Rohan Firminger>>Be right back
Cathy
Dunn>>I am ex TAFE teacher - now a web developer - also tutor with local
adult education college
Peter Waterhouse>>Oh excellent. You see I'm
learning all the time.
Rohan Firminger>>Peter: It never
Stops
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