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Webheads chat logs from April 20, 2003

Pennsylvania

Germany

UAE

Turkey

Pennsylvania

Taiwan

France

Spain

Germany

Portugal

Spain

Tokyo

Australia

Taiwan

Chile/Colorado

Liuzhou, PRC

and Webheads Svetlana from London and a visitor to Tapped In Joanne Smith from Illinois

Tapped In

Connected to TAPPED IN on Sun Apr 20 04:48:10 2003 PDT.

Started recording in Reception (#268)[TappedIn] at Sun Apr 20 04:48:42 2003 PDT.

ClaireB says, "in the group photo, the guy in the center sitting nxt to vance is fromm kosovo. he was very interested in what wia is doing. I tried to email him,but the message bounced"

MargaretD says, "with green eyes I look like a Christmas tree"

ClaireB exclaims, "hiya vance!!"

ClaireB says, "green eyes are nice"

VanceS [vance again] says, "Hi Claire"

MargaretD says, "Hi Vance"

VanceS [vance again] asks, "guy from Kosovo? Who was that?"

ClaireB says, "in aiden's photo in the webhead's session in baltimore. he is sitting next to you."

VanceS [vance again] says, "oh yeah, that guy"

ClaireB says, "we exchanged cards, and I emailed him, but it bounced"

ClaireB says, "remember he said that lots of people now have email in kosovo"

ClaireB asks, "how are you feeling vance?"

VanceS [vance again] says, "it's interesting how the world is opening up"

VanceS [vance again] says, "I'm at my office at the moment"

ClaireB asks, "is it a work day for you?"

VanceS [vance again] says, "so I was well enough this morning to come here, haven't had any bad effects yet"

MargaretD says, "my mother got a web TV set but it didn't work on her TV"

VanceS [vance again] says, "I missed work on Sat (we work Sat-Wed), but came in today"

VanceS [vance again] asks, "what didnt' work, maggi?"

MargaretD says, "the Web TV set"

MargaretD says, "no email then"

MargaretD says, "she wanted to surprise me"

VanceS [vance again] asks, "with an email?"

MargaretD says, "yes"

MargaretD says, "she has no use for a computer but email would keep her in contact with family"

VanceS [vance again] says, "I wonder if that would work with my parents"

rif has connected.

VanceS [vance again] says, "I have no contact with them except when I go there"

VanceS [vance again] says, "Hiya Rif"

ClaireB says, "I have heard that webtv is fairly easy"

MargaretD says, "Hi Rif"

ClaireB says, "hi rif"

rif [guest] says, "Hi all! Have a nice weekedn"

MargaretD says, "yes, so I thought it would be a good solution for my mother"

ClaireB says, "it looks like I may go back to egypt this summer"

VanceS [vance again] says, "BTW Rif our next MLI conference is May 7 so that book with our article should be out by then"

ClaireB asks, "what is MLI?"

MargaretD asks, "to visit or teach Cllaire?"

VanceS [vance again] asks, "really claire? Why? Any way to stop in Abu Dhabi?"

ClaireB says, "to teach workshops"

rif [guest] says, "great Vance, Btw, I have read your paper about Task based instruction and Webheads. It is great"

VanceS [vance again] says, "MLI = Military Language Institute, where I work"

ClaireB says, "probably not able to stop in abu dhabi because I have a conference immeditately before then"

ClaireB exclaims, "Ah!"

VanceS [vance again] says, "thanks RIf, any comments much appreciated (in email)"

ClaireB asks, "Rif, are you Arif?"

rif [guest] asks, "Claire, I remember you came to Turkey once, am I right?"

ClaireB says, "no, I have never had the good fortune to go to Turkey."

VanceS [vance again] says, "Rif is Arif, not Atef"

rif [guest] says, "yes It is me, Claire"

ClaireB says, "right -- Arif Altun."

BJB has arrived.

BJ's Shadow follows BJB to here.

ClaireB says, "I was just surprised because it says that you are a guest"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves hi

ClaireB hugs BJB

MargaretD hugs BJ

BJB [HelpDesk] smiles and hugs warmly

VanceS [vance again] says, "hi bj"

ClaireB says, "Vance, you really had me worred"

ClaireB says, "worried"

rif [guest] says, "I know. A lot of passwords, hard to remember. This was easier to connect"

VanceS [vance again] says, "had me worried too, but it's ok now"

rif [guest] says, "hi BjB"

ClaireB exclaims, "had Bobbi worried too!"

VanceS [vance again] says, "Bobbi is what you might call a 'worrier'"

VennyS [: )] has arrived.

Parrot (recording) has arrived.

MargaretD says, "pays sometimes"

MikeFM has arrived.

MikeFM's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

VennyS [: )] bows MargaretD, ClaireB, VanceS [vance again], rif [guest],

BJB [HelpDesk], and MikeFM.

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, Mike"

MargaretD bows to Venny

ClaireB says, "hi mike"

MikeFM says, "Hi BJ"

VanceS [vance again] says, "She's very sweet but perpetually vulnerable, which is fetching in her case"

MargaretD says, "Hi Mike"

MikeFM says, "Hi Margaret"

ClaireB says, "I am glad that you are fetched :-)"

VanceS [vance again] says, "Hi Mike, Hi Venny, Sqwawk Parrot"

VennyS . o O ( Do you know MIke have a great English source --- RealEnglish? )

MikeFM says, "Howdy, all"

rif [guest] says, "fetching? I think I may ask for some guidance here :-)"

rif [guest] asks, "I can guess in the context, but is that something you say when you really care for someone?"

VanceS [vance again] asks, "Nice to see you here Mike, is it ok if I lift a pic from your site for the Webheads pages?"

rif [guest] says, "That might be a wrong guess, maybe :-)"

MikeFM says, "Of course"

VanceS [vance again] says, "fetching means attractive here"

ClaireB says, "yes, I know. :-)"

MikeFM says, "A bit British, fetching"

rif [guest] says, "got it. Thanks."

ClaireB says, "in Woody Allen's purple rose of cairo, the lead actor uses fetching"

MargaretD . o O ( they fetch trains )

ClaireB asks, "who fetches trains?"

MargaretD says, "the British"

VanceS [vance again] says, "as in fraffly fetching, if you speak fraffly"

VanceS [vance again] says, "In case you haven't heard of fraffly, it's a language where 'frightfully' becomes 'fraffly'"

MikeFM [to BJB]: "are a lot of dates available, or is there a limited choice?"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "depends on the time you want, Mike."

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "there are no EuroLang sessions scheduled for May...they usually do something at 20h GMT on Sundays"

MikeFM [to BJB]: "Early evening GMT is good so that USA can join in"

VennyS [to BJB]: "I couldn't find the vending machine by text connection"

SvetlanaM has connected.

MargaretD . o O ( maybe it ran out )

ClaireB says, "hi svetlana"

MikeFM [to BJB]: "such as any day at 6:00GMT"

MargaretD says, "Hi Svetlana"

SvetlanaM says, "Hi, everyone. I'm looking for the WIA meeting."

MikeFM [to BJB]: "I meant 18:00 GMT"

MariaJo has arrived.

MariaJo's personal recorder follows MariaJo to here.

MargaretD says, "Hello Maria"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Mike, send me an email at bjb@tappedin.org with the time and information about what you want to do...and a date"

MariaJo says, "Hi"

rif [guest] says, "Hi maria"

VanceS [vance again] says, "Hi there"

SvetlanaM sighs I've just been wandering around TI2, looking for the WIA meeting. Am I now in the right place, please?

ClaireB says, "hi maria"

MikeFM [to BJB]: "OK I just pasted you into my address book"

VennyS [: )] is going to have dinner

ClaireB says, "happy easter to everyone who celebrates it"

MargaretD wishes Venny guten appetit

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "yes, Svetlana, you're in the right place"

SvetlanaM waves Great!

MariaJo says, "Hi MArgaret"

ChristopherMJ has connected.

ClaireB exclaims, "hi chris!"

ChristopherMJ looks cooking.

ClaireB asks, "cooking?"

MargaretD asks, "Having good Easter weather Masria?"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] wave /all

VanceS [vance again] says, "THATS why dusty was looking for eggs this morning"

MargaretD says, "Hi Chris"

VanceS [vance again] says, "Hi Christopher"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] exclaims, "hi everyone!"

ClaireB asks, "eggs that the easter bunny hid?"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "Happy Easter everyone (those who celebrate it)"

ClaireB asks, "aren't your kids too old for the easter bunny?"

MariaJo says, "We don't celebrate Easter so much in Spain"

ChristopherMJ . o O ( never too old for the Easter Bunny :-) )

MargaretD exclaims, "nobody is too old for chocolate!"

MariaJo exclaims, "We have just finished the Holly week, and it was great!"

ClaireB says, "here comes peter cottontail, hopping down the bunny trail..."

MikeFM says, "Here in France, Easter is just another good excuse for a delicious meal"

MariaJo says, "Too much enjoy and now I must work hard..."

ClaireB exclaims, "I will never forget holy week in Spain!"

VanceS [vance again] says, "we should have had an easter egg hunt of some kind"

MariaJo asks, "where did you go, Claire?"

ChristopherMJ [to Rif [guest]]: "I saw your message about the conference in Cyprus. I'll be in the USA then, but will try to get online somehow"

VanceS [vance again] says, "maybe for next easter, a scavenger hunt"

TeresaAlm has arrived.

VanceS [vance again] says, "Hi Tere"

ClaireB hugs tere

TeresaAlm exclaims, "happy easter!"

MargaretD says, "Hi Tere"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "hugs everyone!"

MariaJo says, "Oh... Hi Vance! I hope you'll be better.."

ChristopherMJ [to Rif [guest]]: "BTW, I am still working on a message to send to you Sus, and Elizabeth. You guys are the best!!!"

rif [guest] says, "thnx chris..."

ClaireB says, "vance has been sick sick sick"

ClaireB is upset with Tere

ChristopherMJ [cooking] exclaims, "Hi Tere!"

TeresaAlm asks, "why clarinha?"

TeresaAlm asks, "what are you cooking, chris?"

ClaireB says, "in showing your concern for Mac users Elizabeth and Sus, you left me out, lol"

VanceS looks much better now.

MargaretD [to Chris]: "What are you cooking?"

VanceS [much better now] says, "also left out Don C"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "lol clarinha. mea culpa!"

ClaireB says, "just kidding"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "Mexican food, what else is there to cook ? :-)"

TeresaAlm says, "vance, nice to see you with us! :-)"

DafneG [Spain] arrives from nowhere.

Dafne's Private Eye follows DafneG to here.

ClaireB exclaims, "wow, pass over some mexican food!!"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] exclaims, "Hi Daf!"

DafneG [Spain] says, "hi there everybody"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "happy easter, daf!"

ClaireB hugs dafne

VanceS [much better now] likes mexican food, smell that coriander!

MargaretD says, "Hi Daf"

ClaireB says, "happy easter daf"

MariaJo says, "Ho Daf"

MikeFM says, "Howdy, Daf"

SvetlanaM says, "exclaims Hi Daf."

TeresaAlm says, "hugs from your nextdoor neighbor."

VanceS . o O ( celantro? )

MargaretD [to Chris]: "On Easter?"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "We call it cilantro in CA, Vance"

DafneG [Spain] kisses happy easter everybody on both cheeks

VanceS . o O ( that's it, cilantro )

ChristopherMJ . o O ( any day is good for Mexican food )

DafneG [Spain] is happy to see Vance here

VanceS [much better now] is happy to see EVERYONE here

ChristopherMJ [to VanceS]: "glad you are out and getting about - take it slow, though (the physical stuff="

ClaireB says, "we're just glad you're alive"

VanceS [much better now] says, "I have a pretty stable chair here at my office"

ChristopherMJ . o O ( by slow, 5 km instead of 10 to start out with )

VanceS [much better now] says, "Hey, our TCC conference chat, I just grabbed the 16:00 GMT slot"

DafneG . o O ( Oh Claire and Chris are not on the map yet )

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "hey cool"

VanceS [much better now] says, "I did a spot check and it was the one slot available on that day"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "Daf, just read the message going there"

SvetlanaM asks, "What's TCC conference chat, please?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "Svetlana is not on the map either"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Hi Svetlana, the TCC is Teaching in the Community Colleges online 8th annual conferecnce"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "svetlana, nice to see you here!"

VanceS [much better now] says, "April 22-24"

SvetlanaM says, "Great. Thanks."

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "nice to see both Mike and Svetlana"

Joanne has connected.

ChristopherMJ [cooking] exclaims, "Hi Joanne!"

BJB [HelpDesk] exclaims, "Hi, Joanne. You made it!"

DafneG [Spain] says, "hi Joanne"

MikeFM says, "Hi Chris. I don't think we've met yet"

BJB . o O ( Joanne was looking for the webheads in TI2 )

DafneG [Spain] says, "BJB not on the map either"

ClaireB says, "hi Joanne"

SvetlanaM says, "So was I looking for the webheads in TI2"

ClaireB asks, "is it Joanne Miller?"

Joanne [guest] says, "no smith"

ChristopherMJ [to MikeFM]: "I think I remember from about a year or so ago. Weren't you here then?"

Joanne [guest] leaves for the ASO.

MikeFM asks, "Where is "here" ??"

DafneG [Spain] says, "Mike is now a regular at TI"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "here in TI"

TeresaAlm says, "thanks, clarinha."

MikeFM says, "Oh, no, I've only been here 2 or 3 times. It's mind boggling the first time"

ChristopherMJ [to MikeFM]: "indeed, but you get used to the simultaneous conversations"

Joanne [guest] has arrived.

DafneG [Spain] says, "I think your first time was the TESOL event, Mike"

MikeFM says, "Yes - surprisingly"

ClaireB says, "wb, joanne"

BJB [to Joanne [guest]]: "Webheads meets here in reception"

MikeFM says, "Correct, Daf"

BJB . o O ( that way they can catch any guests who log in )

Joanne [guest] asks, "Am I in the correct spot yet?"

SvetlanaM o0s.

BJB [HelpDesk] hopes the webheads will welcome Joanne to the discussion

ChristopherMJ [to Joanne [guest]]: "are you looking for Webheads, Joanne?"

DafneG [Spain] asks, "Claire do you want me to /show you the map?"

Joanne [guest] says, "Yes I am."

SvetlanaM waves Hi Joanne, I've a newbie too. Welcome

ClaireB says, "sure, but I'm a mac user"

VanceS [to Mike]: "were you at TESOL remotely or in person?"

MargaretD exclaims, "Welcome Joanhne!"

DafneG [Spain] says, "I think there is no problem, Claire"

ClaireB says, "ok, daf"

MikeFM says, "I was there remotely but got caught up in Wimba difficulties"

VanceS [much better now] WELCOMES Joanne to the discussion

DafneG [Spain] shows ClaireB the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

Joanne [guest] says, "Thanks"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "Let's introduce ourselves to Joanne & Mike"

DafneG [Spain] projects DafneG [Spain].

Foreing Language teacher. Teaches ESP to architecture students at Universidad Simon Bolivar in Caracas, Venezuela. Currently pursuing doctoral studies in Valencia, Spain. Active member of Webhead in Action.

ChristopherMJ [cooking] gets Note_76627 from the vending machine.

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok, I'm Vance, catherder and chaos navigator of webheads. I think I have a note"

MikeFM says, "Yes please! I only know Daf a bit, and am beginning to get to know the rest of you"

VanceS [much better now] projects WhoozVance.

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My name is Vance and I'm a consultant for Amideast <http://www.amideast.org> working as coordinator for computer-assisted language learning at a language institute in Abu Dhabi, UAE <http://www.mli.ac.ae>. You can find out more about me here <http://www.vancestevens.com/>. And you?
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TeresaAlm says, "i'm an efl teacher in the greater lisbon area (portugal) and i've been a webhead since jan2002."

rif [guest] says, "Hi Mike and Joanne. This is arif from Turkey. I am teaching computers and instructinal tech with the emphasis on CALL"

ClaireB says, "daf, where do I click to find the map"

SvetlanaM says, "I'm Svetlana, an EFL teacher in a small private school in London. Have just started teaching online."

MargaretD says, "I teach Business English in Germany."

VanceS [much better now] says, "Teresa is one of the prime archivists of webheads"

ClaireB says, "HI all, Claire in Pittsburch"

MikeFM says, "I founded a language school in Provence, France, in 1976, and have been doing video since I was a kid"

Joanne [guest] says, "I teach in Illinois with students who are disabled."

ClaireB says, "Pittsburgh"

DafneG [Spain] says, "scroll down the page where it says guest map"

VanceS [to Sveltlana]: "what kind of online teaching do you do?"

MariaJo says, "Hi, my Name is Mara Jordano de la Torre and I am an EFL teacher at Ucoidiomas, University of Crdoba, Spain. www.mariajordano.com"

rif [guest] says, "I think Daf's map w'll be very valuable for us to see how the community develops and scatters around the world"

SvetlanaM says, "Business and General English."

ClaireB says, "when i click on guest map, nothing happens"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] projects Note_76627.

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Doctoral Student: Computing Technology of Education - finishing soon Doing a case study on Webheads EFL teacher in Germany for the last 10 years American - originally from Los Angeles, California
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DafneG [Spain] asks, "no?"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] says, "oops, forgot to put my name in there"

SvetlanaM says, "Am my certificate with NetLearn Languages here in London"

VennyS [: )] says, "I'm a teacher from Taipei, Taiwan, and I'm interested in MOO and running TaiMOO."

MariaJo says, "General English and e-learning manager within my institution"

DafneG [Spain] says, "but Elizabeth is a Mac and she is on the map, Claire"

VennyS [to DafneG]: "where is the map?"

VanceS [to Svetlana]: "you're a friend of Eric Baber's then"

ClaireB says, "I will try it in Explorer. Right now I am using netscape"

DafneG [Spain] shows VennyS the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

SvetlanaM exclaims, "Yes! That's it!"

VanceS [much better now] says, "I can't think of a better online mentor"

DafneG [to Claire]: "that might be it"

SvetlanaM says, "Neither can I. Cool and sympathetic."

VanceS [much better now] says, "Of course I've only met him online so I'm not really sure he actually exists"

VanceS [much better now] asks, "did you actually SEE him?"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "Oh, but he does, he does!"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "No!"

DafneG . o O ( Oh Mike has his webcam up )

MikeFM says, "Correct"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Funny you should mention web cams, I was just setting mine up"

SvetlanaM says, "Actually, yes at an IATEFL conference here in London, I have seen him - he does exist. Believe me."

MikeFM asks, "Are there webcam possibilities at T2?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "don't think so, Mike"

SvetlanaM asks, "And there are no audio chat possibilities in T2, correct?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "no"

SvetlanaM says, "Thanks, Daf."

VanceS [much better now] asks, "Ok, of course, now we must imagine that Svetlana exists, or could she be an avatar set here to corroborate the existence of the purely virtual Eric Baber?"

DafneG [Spain] smiles to Svetlana

VanceS [much better now] says, "JUST KIDDING"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Don't take me seriously"

MikeFM exclaims, "Good question, Vance!"

SvetlanaM says, "That's ok. Visit me in my house in the trees - my office. Anything goes, up there."

VanceS [much better now] asks, "nice view from the window?"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "He's real. He's assessing my course work - I depend on his good opinion to get my certificate!"

MikeFM says, "That's why TESOL conferences are important - we can verify that we are all human in the flesh"

ChristopherMJ [cooking] has to rip himself away from this discussion to cut up turkey breasts

VanceS [much better now] says, "Seriously, we have high regard for Eric and his work at NetLearn Languages"

ChristopherMJ looks away.

rif [guest] says, "enjoy your lunch Chris :-)"

ScottLo has arrived.

ScottLo's Memex follows ScottLo to here.

BJB [HelpDesk] waves to Scott

TeresaAlm exclaims, "hi, scott!"

SvetlanaM waves Hi Scott

MichaelAC has arrived.

Personal_Recorder_30627 follows MichaelAC to here.

DafneG [Spain] says, "Hi Scott"

MikeFM [to VanceS]: "Who runs Netlearn Languages?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "hello Michael"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Hi, MIchael"

ScottLo [Tokyo] says, "hello everyone"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "hello, mc!"

SvetlanaM says, "Eric Baber."

MargaretD says, "Hi mc"

MichaelAC says, "Greetings everyone"

rif [guest] says, "hi"

Joanne [guest] says, "hello"

MikeFM says, "Michael to Michael Hi Michael"

MariaJo says, "Last year I attended to an on-line conference organized by Eric, but I have waiting for this year and I saw anything... :("

VennyS [: )] steps into the Text-Editing booth where you can no longer reach him except via a page.

VanceS [much better now] says, "Hi Scott, Hi Michael"

DafneG [to Margaret]: "do you want to see the map and sign it?"

MichaelAC says, "Eric B no longer works for Netlearn Languages"

MargaretD says, "sure Daf"

DafneG [Spain] shows MargaretD the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

You hear a quiet popping sound; MargaretD has disconnected.

SvetlanaM asks, "No?"

MichaelAC says, "Yes - where is this map? I see"

VanceS [much better now] says, "so I'd heard Michael"

VennyS [: )] finishes with his text Editing and rejoins you in the room.

DafneG [Spain] shows MichaelAC the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

VanceS [much better now] says, "what's he up to now"

VanceS . o O ( he also left webheads, sadly )

DafneG [Spain] says, "Let me show it to Svetlana too"

ScottLo [Tokyo] says, "brb"

ClaireB asks, "daf, is there a lag between the time that you add yourself to the map and the time when it appears?"

DafneG [Spain] shows SvetlanaM the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

ClaireB says, "i submited my info, but it is not there"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ScottLo [Tokyo] has disconnected.

rif [guest] says, "I think it is simultaneous Claire"

VennyS [to TeresaAlm]: "Su"

DafneG [to Claire]: "should not be long"

MariaJo asks, "ahh... and what's Eric doing now?"

ClaireB says, "ok,"

VennyS [: )] has finished his dinner.

ClaireB says, "I thought that I did something wrong"

MariaJo says, "lol"

MichaelAC says, "I'm not sure Maria - I could look it up if you like"

VennyS . o O ( is there anyone intereseted in Groove? )

rif [guest] says, "Venny, it is too big to download for me"

MargaretD has connected.

DafneG [to VanceS]: "didn't I talk to Eric while in last year's EVOnline event at TESOL?"

ScottLo has connected.

DafneG [Spain] says, "wb Maggi, sorry"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "wb, Scott"

DafneG [Spain] says, "wb Scott"

DafneG [Spain] shows BJB the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

ScottLo [to BJB]: "thx"

MargaretD says, "np Daf"

rif [guest] asks, "we tried Microsoft Potrait with Yadong last time. I think the quality was the best with MP, anybody ellse tried MP?"

ScottLo [to DafneG]: "hello again"

VennyS [to Rif [guest]]: "yep, it's a little big and need fast connection"

MargaretD says, "thanks for the page"

VennyS [: )] says, "I have"

DafneG [Spain] asks, "did you get it, Maggi?"

VennyS [to Rif [guest]]: "only a few people use Portrait"

MargaretD says, "yes, but the map didn't connect"

ChristopherMJ [to DafneG]: "Could you show me your page, too (too lazy to type :-)"

MargaretD [to DafneG]: "will try it again latter"

DafneG [Spain] asks, "did you click on the guest map button, Maggi?"

DafneG [Spain] shows ChristopherMJ the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

MargaretD says, "yes"

rif [guest] says, "I guess so. but I liked it and i am using it with some friends here in turkey. The picture quality is nice"

MargaretD says, "and noth8ing happened"

ChristopherMJ [away] says, "thanks Daf"

DafneG [Spain] says, "it happened to Claire before"

VennyS [: )] says, "by the way, Wimba has a voice board for free test now"

ClaireB says, "for me it worked in explorer but not in netscape"

VennyS [: )] says, "it's at http://www.wimba.com/forum_test.php"

Joanne [guest] asks, "where is the quest map icon?"

DafneG [Spain] shows Joanne the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

MargaretD says, "at the bottom Joanne"

ClaireB exclaims, "gotta go now -- nice chatting with all of you!"

MargaretD says, "by Claire"

rif [guest] says, "have a nice weekend Claire"

DafneG [Spain] says, "nice seeing you, Claire"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "happy easter, clarinha!"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "I've just added myself to the guestmap. Great map, Daf!"

ScottLo [Tokyo] says, "cya Claire"

MikeFM says, "Bye Claire"

VanceS [much better now] says, "cya claire"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ClaireB has disconnected.

DafneG [Spain] says, "thanks, Svetlana"

VanceS [much better now] says, "I'm rebooting my web cam machine, some other capture device interfering"

DafneG [Spain] asks, "Have I shown you the map, Scott?"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "BTW, Eric is alive and kicking, and NetLearnLanguages presented at a conference here in London. He was there!"

SvetlanaM asks, "There's a time gap between adding yourself to the map and it appearing, right?"

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok we believe you"

DafneG [to Rif [guest]]: "your webcam cannot be reached"

VanceS [to VennyS]: "link from where?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "the sign is not active"

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok, got it"

Joanne [guest] asks, "I still have not found the map on the bottom of what?"

VennyS [: )] says, "the map of wia is at http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens//papers/evonlin e2002/webheads.htm"

DafneG [Spain] says, "of the page I showed you, Joanne"

rif [guest] exclaims, "I need to leave guys!"

DafneG [Spain] says, "no, Venny this is a new one"

MikeFM says, "Bye rif"

DafneG [Spain] says, "bye, Rif"

rif [guest] says, "nice talking to you all, bye for now"

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok Rif, nice to see you"

SvetlanaM says, "ye, Rig"

MargaretD says, "bye Rif"

ScottLo [Tokyo] says, "later Rif"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_27 [guest] has disconnected.

VennyS [to DafneG]: "new?"

DafneG [Spain] shows Joanne the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

Joanne [guest] says, "thanks dafneG"

VanceS [much better now] says, "There, got my web cam up"

DafneG [Spain] says, "yes, Venny one I have created two days ago"

ChristopherMJ [away] says, "Hmmm... submited, Daf, but I don't see my pin yet (hit Reset, too)"

ChristopherMJ [away] says, "I'll have to check it out later"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_38 [guest] has disconnected.

DafneG [Spain] says, "I will check it"

ChristopherMJ [away] says, "gotta get cooking - you all have a Happy Easter and/or a nice Sunday"

ChristopherMJ [away] exclaims, "bye!"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "Bye!"

MichaelAC says, "See ya Chris"

MargaretD says, "bye Chris"

DafneG [Spain] says, "I am going to show that map at the Cordoba conference next Saturday"

VanceS [much better now] asks, "Mike has a cam up? Can you invite vance_stevens to view Mike?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "bye Chris"

VennyS [: )] asks, "This one http://dafnegon.tripod.com/wia/wiapics.htm ?"

ChristopherMJ [away] says, "OK, will remember the conference"

ChristopherMJ [away] says, "bye"

TeresaAlm says, "happy easter, chris."

You hear a quiet popping sound; ChristopherMJ [away] has disconnected.

DafneG [Spain] says, "no, Venny, let me show it to you"

VanceS [much better now] says, "have a good one Chris"

DafneG [Spain] shows VennyS the URL: http://dygonza.bravepages.com/index.html

VanceS . o O ( darn missed )

MargaretD asks, "so did the bunny bring you chocolte mc?"

MichaelAC says, "Lots Maggi. Lots."

MichaelAC says, "And my kids made some eggs as well"

MargaretD exclaims, "make you happy!"

MichaelAC asks, "How about you?"

VennyS [to DafneG]: "the guest map?"

MichaelAC says, "Yes - chocolate - I'm told - makes you happy"

DafneG [Spain] says, "I am stuffed up with chocolate and other Spanish easter sweets"

MargaretD says, "just relaxing"

MichaelAC smiles at Daf

VanceS [much better now] says, "Bobbi hid eggs around the house this morning and made Dusty go and look for them (he's 18)"

MargaretD says, "beautiful weather here"

DafneG [Spain] says, "scroll down the page to guestmap, Venny"

MichaelAC says, "Easter and the whole egg thing soes bring out the child in people. It's nice"

DafneG [Spain] says, "yes, I love dying eggs"

VanceS [much better now] says, "I don't know what Bobbi will do next year. It will just be me and her."

SvetlanaM asks, "A very basic question ... how do you get your picture on the 'who's here' panel on the right? Anyone?"

MargaretD says, "then you can look for the eggs"

MichaelAC says, "Daf - just so you know. I've filled in the map but nothing shows up. I guess it will later."

DafneG [Spain] says, "I have to check why that's happening, Michael"

Joanne has connected.

SvetlanaM says, "Yes, Daf. It didn't show up my flag for London either."

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "welcome back, Joanne"

MichaelAC says, "Svetlana - click update to see who's in the room (top right corner)"

Joanne [guest] says, "I went to those websites to try and find this map"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "for the map, hit refresh on the main webpage"

VennyS [to DafneG]: "I added me;)"

DafneG [Spain] says, "thanks"

MichaelAC says, "Ok - I'' try it BJ"

BJB . o O ( although I still don't see my entry either )

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_176 [guest] has disconnected.

VennyS [to DafneG]: "how do you make it?"

SvetlanaM asks, "Thanks, Mike, but I how do you upload your photo onto the 'who's here' page in the first place?"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Yeah, Mike, I see your cam and I see you see mine"

MikeFM says, "OK cool"

MichaelAC says, "Nope - still don't show up on the map. I'll wait till tomorrow and try again."

Joanne has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] asks, "oh, dear...Joanne, are you back?"

Joanne [guest] says, "yes, I am back again"

MichaelAC exclaims, "BJ - can you answer Svetlana;'s q about uploading photos. I've long since forgotten!"

Joanne [guest] says, "This is my first attempt at an ASo discussion group"

DafneG [Spain] says, "I see Venny, Svetlana"

DafneG [Spain] says, "Emma Miliani"

Joanne [guest] asks, "Do you usually discuss a topic?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "my icon got lost again"

SvetlanaM asks, "Daf, how did you put your icon on there in the first place?"

MikeFM says, "Daf, it's on a server which has died"

VanceS [much better now] says, "we have a tutorial on that at the WIA site"

VanceS [much better now] says, "but this will all be for naught when we move to TI2"

DafneG [Spain] says, "no, I am looking at the map now, Mike"

DafneG [Spain] says, "oh, sorry, you are talking about TI icon"

SvetlanaM says, "OK, thank you. No problem."

MargaretD says, "dead servers are a sad thing"

Joanne [guest] says, "Thanks for your hepl today"

MikeFM says, "Daf, I mean your icon picture is on a "dead server""

aidenyeh has connected.

VanceS [much better now] says, "we ARE discussing topics"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Hi Aiden"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "You can now put an icon and a photo with your id in TI2"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "hello"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "nice to be back"

DafneG [Spain] says, "Ok, need to upload it again"

MikeFM says, "Hi Aiden"

BJB . o O ( if you do, please make sure to follow the size requirements )

VanceS [much better now] says, "Hi Aiden, I have some great news"

DafneG [Spain] says, "hi Aiden"

MichaelAC says, "Venny - I just sent you a message in Groove."

TeresaAlm says, "hi, aiden."

VanceS [much better now] says, "at least I hope it's great news"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "yes,"

DafneG [Spain] hugs Aiden

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_79 [guest] has disconnected.

SvetlanaM says, "?TO BJB and thank you, I've done that in TI2"

VanceS [much better now] says, "the slot for 16:00 GMT Tuesday came up and I grabbed it"

VanceS [much better now] says, "for TCC2003"

DafneG [Spain] asks, "what's the size, BJ?"

VanceS [much better now] says, "better for you, right? Midnight your time"

VennyS [to MichaelAC]: "I'm going to run my Groove"

MichaelAC says, "OK Venny"

VennyS [to MichaelAC]: "let's have a test"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "great, thanks, yes, that would be a lot better than 4 in the morning :-)"

BJB [to DafneG]: "photos should be 90 x 120 and icons are 40 x 40"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ScottLo [Tokyo] has disconnected.

DafneG [Spain] says, "mine is smaller 32x32"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "nice to 'see' everyone"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "photos show when you id a person and icon show when you look at who's on your buddy list"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "i've been absent for too long"

MargaretD says, "groovy"

MichaelAC says, "You too Aiden"

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok, awaiting confirmation on change"

aidenyeh [guest] asks, "channge?"

VennyS [to Aidenyeh [guest]]: "Hello;)"

aidenyeh [guest] asks, "change?"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "hello venny"

VanceS [much better now] says, "I'm having trouble with my web cam"

SvetlanaM says, "BJB I think my photo was bigger than 90 x 120 and it seemed to work"

VanceS [much better now] says, "it's not connecting to Yahoo"

VanceS [much better now] says, "and Mike's seems frozen"

BJB [to Svetlana]: "it kills the database...techs have pleaded with me to ask everyone to keep within the size limits"

MikeFM says, "You're right, Vance, good old Bill just froze me"

DafneG [to Svetlana,]: "your flag is showing on the map"

SvetlanaM says, "BJB, sorry. OK, I understand. I'll rectify."

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "thanks, Svetlana"

SvetlanaM says, "Daf good."

VennyS [to MichaelAC]: "what's your id there?"

MikeFM [to VanceS]: "My webcam just unfroze"

DafneG [Spain] smiles at Svetlana

SvetlanaM exclaims, "BJB, when you talked about size limits, I thought you meant KBs, not millimetres!"

VanceS [much better now] says, "my connection on my dialup just gave up, that's the reason"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "think pixels, Svetlana."

VanceS [to Svetlana]: "pixels"

SvetlanaM says, "yes, pixels. More size means more pixels."

VanceS [to Aiden]: "and daf I haven't discussed how to present because at TCC2003 it's just a free for all conversation"

VanceS [much better now] says, "you can try to plan it but my experience is people come and go and threads last 30 seconds"

DafneG [to VanceS]: "ok :-)"

DafneG [to VanceS]: "they are now asking for password to get to our description of the event"

VanceS [much better now] says, "But theoretically we are supposed to discuss the advantages and disadvantages to students of what we do"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "yes, that would be easy"

DafneG [Spain] says, "indeed"

VanceS [much better now] says, "the ID for the TCC event is tcc and the password is kumu03"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "I think we should stick with it, Vance"

SvetlanaM says, "My project is using the TI environment and how it helps students learn English and teachers teach English. I guess I should come to the conference."

VanceS [much better now] says, "I'm broadcasting on Yahoo again (webcam)"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "we'd be glad to have you there,Svetlana"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "just to let everyone know, Arnold will be meeting my students this Wednesday and he's be talking about TPR"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "he'll be talking..."

DafneG [Spain] says, "he has good material on that topic"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "yes, he already sent me his material and I've forwarded it to my students"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "interesting stuff"

MikeFM [to VanceS]: "Your webcam is compleyely black now"

DafneG [Spain] says, "I have used TPR a lot in the past"

MikeFM says, "TPR ="

DafneG [Spain] says, "with my pre-school and elementary school students"

SvetlanaM asks, "What's TPR?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "Total Physical Response"

MikeFM asks, "TPR = ?"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "total physical response"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "Ok, I use it!"

MikeFM asks, "Oh yes - is that what Elizabeth does with her friends in the states?"

SvetlanaM says, "And Community Language Learning, too, which works well for me"

DafneG [Spain] says, "CLL works well with ESL but not so with EFL"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "I agree with DAf on that one"

SvetlanaM asks, "Daf, why, do you think?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "because with EFL students do not have the opportunity to use the language learned in their context"

DafneG [Spain] says, "and CLL needs real practice"

SvetlanaM says, "ok, but my students are in total immersion here in London."

aidenyeh [guest] says, "and target language is usually limited within the classroom,"

DafneG [Spain] says, "well, they are ESL"

DafneG [Spain] says, "not EFL"

DafneG [Spain] agrees with Aiden

SvetlanaM says, "I'm not clear on the distinction you're making."

DafneG [Spain] says, "EFL = English as a Foreign Language"

DafneG [Spain] says, "ESL= English as a Second Language"

SvetlanaM says, "They are learning English as a foreign language, not a second language."

MargaretD says, "English as a foreign language means they walk out of class and speak another language"

VanceS [much better now] says, "motivations to learn are very different in the two contexts"

DafneG [Spain] says, "EFL students learn another language in their country where the L2 is not spoken"

MikeFM says, "Daf, I don't think all EFL students are not able to use their English every day in real circumstances"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "yes, but the environment makes a difference, Svetlana"

DafneG [Spain] says, "but CLL has very special conditions for it to work, Mike"

MargaretD asks, "where Mike?"

MikeFM says, "The students here are all "EFL" strictly speaking, but they're on the phone with UK and US every day too"

VennyS [to VanceS]: "would you test Groove with us?"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "yes, Mike, there are of course exceptions"

SvetlanaM asks, "Ok, then whenever you teach foreigners the language that's being spoken in the country you are teaching in, it's ESL. Is that your point?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "but they do not need the language to survive in their context, Mike"

MargaretD says, "that isn't the same as survival English"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "yes, svetlana"

MikeFM says, "OK - an exception - but almost all professionals learning a language use it everyday"

DafneG [Spain] says, "yes, Svetlana that is the distinction"

VanceS [to VennyS]: "I can test Groove, let me launch it"

VennyS [to VanceS]: "Great"

MikeFM says, "Correct - so it is essentially EFL from Survival point of view"

MargaretD says, "yes, Mike but it is limited to business"

SvetlanaM asks, "Limited to business?"

MikeFM says, "More or less limited to business and technical exchanges, yes"

DafneG [Spain] says, "so that's more ESP or EST, Mike"

SvetlanaM asks, "EFL is limited to business and technical exchanges?"

Juani has connected.

aidenyeh [guest] says, "no, not really svetlana"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Hi Juani"

aidenyeh [guest] exclaims, "hello Juani!"

Juani [guest] says, "Hola..Buenos dias"

TeresaAlm says, "happy easter, juani"

DafneG [Spain] says, "hello Juani, como estas"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "buenas noches"

SvetlanaM waves Felices Fiestas, Juani.

Juani [guest] says, "Nice to see you .Gracias..Felices PAscuas"

VanceS [much better now] says, "buenos tardes"

MikeFM says, "No Svetlana - I think this is what happens when 2 conversations get going on the same topic: EFL is English as a Foreign Language"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "i agree with Mike"

Juani [guest] asks, "How are you Vance? did you recover from your bad cold?"

VanceS [much better now] says, "I'm recovering. It was pneumonia."

MargaretD says, "basically Svetlana your students go out of the class and are immersed in an English environment, ours aren't"

SvetlanaM says, "ok. But it's not their second language."

BJB looks breakfast.

MikeFM says, "That says it in a nutshell, Margaret"

MargaretD says, "not always here either"

DafneG [Spain] says, "it can be a third or a fourth"

VanceS [to VennyS]: "Groove crashed"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "but because your students speak the language outside the classroom, almost everywhere they go, makes english their second language"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "i agree, it could be their 3rd or 4th"

SvetlanaM says, "ok, so it depends on your definition of EFL and ESL. I understand."

DafneG [Spain] says, "and within ESL or EFL you can teach GE or ESP or EST EAP"

Juani [guest] says, "and what happens with our students that only listen and speak English inside the classroom,what should we call this?h"

VanceS [to VennyS]: "it wants to update some files first"

MargaretD says, "there is no depending on a definition it just IS two different environments"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "EFL, Juani"

DafneG [Spain] says, "it is generally defined like that in the context of SLL"

SvetlanaM says, "Ok, and I do! (BTW - hopefully my students go out on the street and speak just English - keep your fingers crosses!)"

SvetlanaM ..crosseds.

MikeFM says, "I have to go eat something or I'll die of hunger. Bye everybody."

aidenyeh [guest] says, "ok, thanks everyone for that brief chat"

SvetlanaM waves bye

DafneG [Spain] says, "bye, Mike see you"

MargaretD says, "bye Mike"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "I have to tuck in my little one"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "I'll see you guys on Tuesday 16 GMT"

DafneG [Spain] says, "Aiden, don't forget to sign the map"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "12 midnight, my time"

SvetlanaM thinks sweet dreams to your little one.

aidenyeh [guest] says, "Oh yes"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "i'll do it tomorrow"

MargaretD says, "bye Aiden"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MikeFM has disconnected.

DafneG [Spain] says, "ok"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "midterms here, Daf"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "lots of checking to do"

DafneG [Spain] says, "I know"

VanceS [to VennyS]: "I could hear you but system messages kept coming up and it always results in upspecfied error"

DafneG [Spain] says, "take care"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "see you guys on Tuesday"

aidenyeh [guest] says, "bye"

DafneG [Spain] says, "CU"

Juani [guest] says, "I hope to be able to be there also.Bye Aiden."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_187 [guest] has disconnected.

MargaretD asks, "not illegal Vance?"

VanceS [much better now] asks, "was that Aiden gone?"

VanceS [to Maggi]: "illegal?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "you only have a 30-day free trial with Groove"

MargaretD says, "yes, mine says illegal in Germqn"

VanceS [much better now] says, "mine is working, wanted to upgrade some files"

SvetlanaM says, "just in case you're still interested, my dictionary says that ESL, in US usage is the same as EFL in British usage."

SvetlanaM exclaims, "Hence my confusion! problem solved!"

VanceS [much better now] exclaims, "not a very good dictionary!"

SvetlanaM says, "Longman, Dictionry of Language Teahcing and Applied Linguistics."

MargaretD says, "well, Bran is part of Erope"

MargaretD says, "sorry, Britian is part of Europoe"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "I'm Australian!"

SvetlanaM exclaims, "My mother was German and my father Russian!"

MargaretD says, "in the UK...doesn't count"

VanceS [much better now] asks, "How long living in UK?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "Brits have their own way, but I guess that around the world English teachers know the diffrence between those two terms"

MargaretD asks, "did you learn German and Rudssian?"

SvetlanaM says, "Yes. My MA is in German."

MargaretD says, "prima"

DafneG [Spain] says, "as well as GE, ESP, EST, EAP, EVP"

SvetlanaM says, "Freelanced as a musician for many years, but been on and off in Britain for must be 20 years now. Not working here much."

SvetlanaM says, "Yes, Daf, you're right."

DafneG [Spain] says, "It is time for me to go, need to have lunch and keep working"

SvetlanaM asks, "I'm doing my project on using TI and it's advantages for learning English and teaching English. Just quickly, any suggestions?"

DafneG [Spain] says, "I am gladd you are much better, Vance"

SvetlanaM asks, "Where should I start?"

VanceS [to VennyS]: "I had to shut down groove, crashed again"

DafneG [Spain] says, "here in WEbheads, Svetlana"

TeresaAlm says, "have a nice day, daf. good work."

MargaretD exclaims, "Have a good day Daf!"

DafneG [Spain] says, "thanks"

SvetlanaM says, "Vance, I didn't realise you'd bee n ill. Sorry to hear that."

SvetlanaM says, "Bye, Daf."

MichaelAC Michael is silent as he's grappling with Groove

DafneG [Spain] says, "check our websites, Svetlana"

SvetlanaM says, "Yes, thanks, Daf."

VanceS [much better now] wonders if he should start groove again

Juani [guest] says, "Thanks God you recover soon,Vance"

DafneG [Spain] says, "look at Teresa's list"

SvetlanaM says, "I've joined the Yahoo group. Will look there too."

DafneG [Spain] hugs everybody good bye

VanceS [much better now] says, "You could check out my paper, I can show it to you"

You hear a quiet popping sound; DafneG [Spain] has disconnected.

SvetlanaM says, "Vance, please do. I'd be most grateful."

Juani [guest] says, "oh yes ,do it."

VanceS [much better now] shows SvetlanaM the URL: http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens/papers/webheads/taskbase.htm

VanceS [much better now] asks, "did you want to see as well, Junai?"

Juani [guest] says, "yes,please"

MichaelAC says, "I know I've hardly been here - I've been with yaodong and Venny in Groove. But I'm formally leaving the room now! Happy Easter everyone. Go easy on the eggs"

SvetlanaM says, "Vance, that's really helpful."

SvetlanaM waves Bye, Michael.

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok Michael, see you anon"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MichaelAC has disconnected.

TeresaAlm exclaims, "i'm leaving too. bye, evryone. have a nice day!"

You hear a quiet popping sound; TeresaAlm has disconnected.

SvetlanaM Vance, do you have other members of WIA from England, GB?

SvetlanaM asks, "Or members of TappedIn?"

VanceS [much better now] says, "from UK, there's James Simpson in Reading"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Writing for Webheads"

VanceS [much better now] asks, "who else?"

SvetlanaM says, "No problem. I was just curious."

VanceS [much better now] says, "our lists are at our web portals"

SvetlanaM says, "I'll also be off now. I'm going to study your paper."

VanceS [much better now] says, "the addresses are at the end of the paper"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Webheads in Action - http://www.vancestevens.com/papers/evonline2002/webheads.htm"

VanceS [much better now] says, "Writing for Webheads - http://sites.hsprofessional.com/vstevens/files/efi/webheads.htm"

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok, nice to meet you"

SvetlanaM says, "Thank you."

SvetlanaM says, "I'll be back."

VanceS [much better now] says, "good, we've been here every Sunday noon since 1998"

VanceS [much better now] says, "so we'll be here next week and the week after"

SvetlanaM says, "See you next week then."

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok, have fun in the trees"

SvetlanaM waves

You hear a quiet popping sound; SvetlanaM has disconnected.

Juani [guest] says, "I was reading the papers for the presentation next week,at least part of it."

VanceS [much better now] asks, "the one for Tuesday?"

VanceS [much better now] says, "We've changed that to 16:00 GMT"

Juani [guest] says, "yes,from the links you sent through emails"

VanceS [much better now] asks, "are you going to join us?"

Juani [guest] says, "that means midday for me,I hope to be free by that time."

VanceS [much better now] says, "gr8"

Juani [guest] says, "it the school anniversary and we have a lot of activities."

VanceS [much better now] says, "ok, if you want to commit there is a chance we could get you in the program"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MargaretD has lost her link.

VanceS [much better now] says, "we're working on the program now"

Juani [guest] says, "I d like to do a lot more online activities with my students but I only have 3 hours with students at the computer lab on Mondays so we are working on a project with Aiden students."

Juani [guest] says, "at least doing some emailss,working the same activities and trying to know more about the two cultures.I know its not enough."

VanceS [much better now] says, "Sounds like you're doing a lot for them"

Juani [guest] says, "but at least it something and that group of students feel happy to work that way."

You hear a quiet popping sound; MariaJo has disconnected.

VanceS [much better now] says, "If you want to join the presentation we could add your name here:"

VanceS [much better now] says, "http://makahiki.kcc.hawaii.edu/tcc/2003/preconf/presentations/stevens.html"

VanceS [much better now] says, "put in tcc and kumu03 to see it"

VanceS [much better now] asks, "want me to /show you?"

Juani [guest] says, "yes,Please"

VanceS [much better now] shows Juani the URL: http://makahiki.kcc.hawaii.edu/tcc/2003/preconf/presentations/stevens.html

VanceS [much better now] says, "when it comes up put in tcc on the first line and kumu03 that's zero 3 on the second"

VanceS [much better now] says, "that's the conference site with listed presenters"

Juani [guest] says, "I looking at it."

Juani [guest] asks, "it looks great.I hope to have time to join the conference.Can I "attend"it even if Im not participating?"

Juani [guest] says, "mine problem is always the schedule."

Juani [guest] says, "@quit"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_45 [guest] has lost its link.

VanceS [much better now] says, "yes of course"

VennyS [: )] asks, "it asked me to log in?"

VanceS [much better now] says, "hi, the hawaii site? tcc and kumu03"

VennyS [: )] says, "got it"

VanceS [much better now] says, "cool, incidentally I updated the page you asked me to"

VanceS [much better now] says, "you're now listed with pic and link"

VanceS [much better now] says, "sorry it took so long"

VennyS [: )] grins.

VennyS [: )] bows to thank for Vance

VanceS [much better now] asks, "is anyone else here?"

VanceS [much better now] switches on lights to reveal BJB [breakfast] and VennyS [: )].

VanceS [much better now] switch lights back off

VanceS [much better now] says, "no just us"

VennyS [: )] says, "I am here"

VanceS [much better now] says, "I'll shut this down and see you in Groove"

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [much better now] has disconnected.

Disconnected from TAPPED IN on Sun Apr 20 07:21:17 2003 PDT.

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