Webheads chat logs from December 10, 2000

Meet the people in the chat today


Vance	Michael	Maggi	Pon	Sophie	Arif
UAE	Australia	Germany	Thailand	Cyprus	Turkey

and Peter Williams, living in Japan

We found out today that HearMe will continue to be supported past Dec 11, which was good news. Meanwhile, we continue to experiment with alternate chat sites. Today, it was Yahoo chat, with Vance showing Peter the url that shows if Vance is online and testing if it works: http://www.vancestevens.com/webheads/yahoo_chat.htm (it did; Peter could see that I was on Yahoo). Peter and I experimented with Yahoo and tried to drag Michael into a voice conference, but we found out that Yahoo only supports two conversants at one time (supports them very well, with clear duplex voice, but only two, so not suitable for us). So, we went to HearMe where Maggi showed up eventually, followed by Pon, and just as we were about to leave, Arif. Sophie appeared in the Palace and also joined us in voice chat. In the Palace, Sophie and Vance talked a little about the plenary address that Vance will give at a conference Sophie is putting on in Cyprus in May. The chats were hit toward the end with cyber-glitches, with Vance being bumped from all chats abruptly. But before then, Vance was able to upload Pon's new Writing for Webheads logo to the Internet at: http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/wfw.jpg

<-- Pon's new Writing for Webheads logo!

From here you can jump to: Homestead or Hear Me or Palace chat logs

HearMe text chat logs

Status: Connected

Vance has joined

Peter has joined

Peter has left

Peter has joined

Michael has joined

Maggi has joined

Michael: LOL

Peter: lol

Michael: Meat of it???

Peter: lol

Maggi: the nitty gritty of it

Peter: OK

Michael: faksjdhjks jashkfj ajkhfsk

Michael: = hello

Michael: lol

Michael: I've been tired for 20 years.

Sophie has joined

Michael: Hello Sophie

Sophie: Hi everyone

Sophie: I can hear everyone but still haven't fixed the headphones

Sophie: and micro

Michael: OK

Maggi: can you hear us?

Sophie: loud and clear

Sophie: sorry

Sophie: yeah... [Sophie has just said, in voice chat, that she has invited Vance to be a plenary speaker at a conference she is organizing in Cyprus in May - gvs]

Michael: a plenary session?

Sophie: yeah

Sophie: is anyone gonna be joining us?

Sophie: why don't you guys come over in may?

Michael: OK Sophie - whos' paying?

Sophie: hmmmm

Sophie: hats out again?

Maggi: remember where Michael is...

Sophie: yeah ...far away

Sophie: yes!!! [Sophie has just agreed to provide Vance with an Internet connection for his plenary speech - gvs]

Sophie: it will be available

Michael: OK I'll pay half!

Sophie: Ok Michael I'll work on figuring out ways for the other half

Maggi: he wants to get back to Europe

Sophie: for a visit?

Sophie: or for good

Maggi: visit

Maggi: I think...

Michael: Really Sophie??

Sophie: Well, I could try

Sophie: Will you be somewher near

Maggi: he used to live in Holland

Sophie: I've seen something like that with incoming question etc [Now we're talking about the possibility of setting up a video stream of certain conference sessions and taking questions via the Internet - gvs]

Michael: Not for good. I just want to visit E urope again. I have no plans to be in the neighbourhood. When is it?

Sophie: In Exeter

Sophie: Video conferencing?

Maggi: I'm still in Germany in May

Vance: Video streaming

Sophie: Maybe if you help me figure out what we need

Sophie: maybe yeah

Maggi: online teacher traing uses Netmeeting

Vance: You only need one way streaming

Vance: Incoming via hearme

Sophie: I'll ask the guys at the University

Maggi: a server isn't so expensive

Vance: Yeah, you just stream the video out, and you can take interaction through voice chat

Vance: Are you talking peter? I didn't hear it.

Vance: Can you repeat it here?

Michael: Yes Vance - that's what i was thinking.

Maggi: sounds very logical Perter and simple

Maggi: ooops...Peter

Vance: EH? Real Producer lets you stream recorded video, right?

Vance: Yeah?

Vance: hmmm, a live button!!

m16 has joined

Maggi: m16...hi

Sophie: hi m16

m16 has left

pon has joined

Michael: Hello Pon.

Sophie: Since we are talking about technology can I ask you a technical question?

Maggi: Hi Pon

Vance: Pon is from Thailand

Sophie: My keyboard recently works whenever it feels like it.

pon: good afternoon everybody

Vance: Sophie is from Cyprus

Vance: Peter is in Japan

Sophie: waht's that Maggi?

Vance: and you know Michael, Maggi and I

Michael: Can I see that logo somewhere?

Vance: I'll be putting the logo on the website

Sophie: the keyboard works whenever it feels like it

Michael: ok

Sophie: sometimes it works and then suddelntly it stops working

Vance: I wish mine would do that

Sophie: then 5 minyutes later it works

Michael: Good q's Maggi!

Sophie: didn't get that maggi

Sophie: funny vance

Sophie: I think the computre is nt reading it sometimes

Sophie: hah ha

Sophie: the mouse is funny too

Peter: lol

Sophie: i think I may have a virus

Sophie: only a year old Maggi

Vance: Pon, did you hear me say ...

Sophie: I clicked on one e-mail the other day and it opened all my e-mails in my INbox!!!!

Sophie: It jammed the computer

Sophie: darn

pon: vance do you receipt email of permit

Sophie: bother

Vance: I will put your logo on our website

Sophie: does anyone have a clue of what it might be

Vance: Yes, I did Pon. I received your permission.

Sophie: a name???

Vance: What was the name of the file?

Sophie: someone mentioned Romeo and Juliet

pon: i send add 2 logos

Sophie: melissa??

Michael: And NAVIDAD is another one.

Sophie: No, not outlook but microsoft yes

Sophie: OK just a sec Maggi... address?

Vance: We're talking about the virus that Sophie got in her email

Vance: You can send attachments up to Norton and they will examine them for you

Sophie: MIne is yiansoph@cytanet.com.cy

Sophie: OK good idea

Sophie: Ok thanks guys

Sophie: I was hoping it wasn't a virus ..

Vance: Pon, I got the EFI and the WFW logos but those were the last ones.

Sophie: phone... just a sec

Peter has left

[Michael suggests that while Sophie is gone, the rest of us can talk about her. Sophie says ... gvs]

Sophie: GRRRRRRRRRRR

Michael: lol

Michael: I CAN hear you Pon - no problem.

Sophie: I'm back

Michael: Good phone call??

Sophie: It was my mum asking about Chrsitmas cards and stuff

Sophie: X'mas

Michael: I see.

Sophie: Maggi, Michael do try to come to Cyprus

pon: but i can hear

Vance: what software did you use to make the logos?

Michael: I will Sophie - esp if you can raise half the fare.

Sophie: Maggi it shouldn't be expensive from germany

pon: do you decision to select logo?

Sophie: I'll see

Michael: OK - that would be GREAT!

Sophie: I don;t know exactly how but I'll try

Michael: Once must dream.

Vance: I will use your logo on our web site.

pon: ok

Sophie: How much does it cost for you to get over her, have you got a clue?

Michael: I mean " One must dream."

Maggi: no, but I am realloy busy in May...LCCI exams

Sophie: Definiitely

Sophie: Dreams .. I got loads of those

Sophie: Sorry to hear that you will be too busy Maggi

Michael: Australia - Europe is around US$800.

Sophie: Aha

Michael: That's return.

Vance: Someone's got to stay home so they can join us online!

Maggi: hey that's not bad

Vance: Either that or you have to log in from your hotel room and SAY you're in Australia.

Maggi: I'M here

Sophie: That's not much more expensive than what Vance will have to pay to get here

Michael: Sounds fine!

pon: i interesting Australia

Sophie: I can pretend I am in Thailand, Chine or wherever vance

Sophie: I'll be in the lab next door

Sophie: !!

Vance: Do you want to go to Australia, Pon?

Michael: Yo're not far away from Australia Pon.

pon: yes

Vance: Yeah, all those people are actually behind the screen the whole time

Vance: mirrors

pon: i plan to Australia

Vance: Will you go there Pon?

Vance: WHen?

pon: meeting

Michael: In January?

Vance: You have a meeting?

Vance: with whom?

Sophie: Ying Lan is usually always here. Is she OK? [Sophie was not here last week so she does not know Ying Lan's SECRET!! - gvs]

Sophie: Good night Michael

Michael: Goodnight everyone.

Vance: michael appears to be talking (green)

Vance: But I can't hear anything.

Vance: Am I missing anything?

Status: Disconnected [wooo _ big internet problems just hit, Vance bounced out of Palace too - gvs]

Status: Disconnected

Net: Reconnecting...

Status: Disconnected

Net: Reconnecting...

Status: Disconnected

Net: Reconnecting...

Status: Disconnected

Net: Reconnecting...

Status: Disconnected

pon has joined

Maggi has joined

Sophie has joined

Status: Connected

Vance has joined

Sophie: yeah and he is back allright

Sophie: excuses excuses vance

Sophie: he probably wanted a break from us!

Status: Disconnected

Maggi has joined

pon has joined

Sophie has joined

Status: Connected

Vance has joined

Sophie: now, what was that!!!???

Sophie: weird

Sophie: well, maybe it is for the best Maggi

Sophie: secrets secrets

Sophie: where are you from Maggi? Whci place in the US?

Sophie: interesting

Sophie: you don't grow roots then?

Sophie: so choose a nice home for the next one

Sophie: so whos' president?

Sophie: why is that sure it's Bush?

Vance: who cares

Vance: I'm pulling for Gore, but I think it's hopeless.

Vance: The crooks have this one.

Sophie: Gore, me too

Sophie: it is so weird

Vance: Don't count the votes, stop the recount!

Maggi: at this point it doesn't much matter

Sophie: I think they should have a complete revote

Vance: I mean, don't count the votes? What is this?

Vance: trickery

Sophie: weird

Sophie: I just don't get it

Maggi: politics and power

Maggi: and money

Vance: However, it also shows how rule bound Americans are

Sophie: How can one be president when people don't trust him

Maggi: 50% do

Vance: Exactly. He just wants the airplane.

Sophie: I think Gore should have had a revote of Florida but nobody asked for that

Vance: No way, more like 24.99%

Vance: 50% didn't even vote

Sophie: yeah, that'sd another issue

Maggi: that's true

Vance: and they don't trust him. They just figure he'll let them keep their money.

Sophie: anyway guys I have enjoyed this but I have to get some work done

Sophie: have to have to have to

Vance: This isn't work?

Sophie: yeah

Vance: I thought this was work !!!

Sophie: have a nice day everyone

Sophie: no, this is fun

Maggi: lol

Sophie: no worries Vance

Sophie: bye

Sophie has left

Maggi has left

Maggi has joined

Vance: someday I will stay here and what?

pon: every sunday , i can see you thlis web

Vance: yes, every Sunday. Same time.

Vance: For the last 2 years

pon: i wonder why student a little 1 - 2 person.

pon: another not came here

Vance: not today. Ying Lan is in Malaysia today.

pon: near my country

Vance: yes

Vance: Just a few hours by train.

pon: next year, i plan to austria

Vance: austria or australia?

pon: austria and may be australia

pon: i scan virus my photo and logos

pon: not find

Vance: usually there are no viruses in photos

pon: not saw

Vance: You don't really run them

Vance: They are fine I think

pon: i send my photo with dauther

Vance: great

pon: take at singapore

Vance: Excellent. Please send it.

pon: areadly but you knew me have virus

pon: i do not understand

Vance: Yes, I got one file from you rejected by my computer

pon: send photo with logos last week

Vance: That's right. I deleted it. So I don't know what it was.

Vance: Only one. The logos are fine.

Vance: You said in the email you wanted to replace your picture.

Vance: Did you send a picture to replace the one you have there now?

pon: write about topic thailand

Vance: was it a word document?

pon: yes

pon: do you recipt

Vance: That was it then. It must have had a virus.

Vance: No, i deleted that one.

Vance: Why not send the text in email?

pon: long word

Vance: Or save it as html and send it that way.

Vance: Word documents are dangerous.

pon: it is article

Vance: Send it to v.stevens@mli.ac.ae

pon: now i deleted everything

Vance: We have a good virus checker here

pon: excuse me, i will writ again and sent you

Vance: ok

pon: i take program of word / office

Vance: http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/wfw.jpg

Vance: Yep, that's it

pon: file student

Vance: So, I'll put this on our web pages

pon: what web

pon: web student

Vance: Yeah, I'll put it on our web pages

Vance: I'll have to make it a little smaller

Vance: Thanks very much Pon

Vance: It's an attractive logo.

pon: i would like to tell many thing but i have problem

Vance: For the t-shirt I think we need one that says Writing for Webheads

pon: problem english

Vance: We can help you with that.

Vance: It's no problem for us.

pon: thanks

pon: may be slowly

Vance: Yes, thats not a problem.

pon: interaction

pon: i am very great you understand me

Vance: We're English teachers

Vance: grateful?

pon: problem listening

pon: i practice every day

Vance: I can suggest some sites for listening

pon: another student very best to speking

pon: which site for listening

Vance: http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens//audio.htm

pon: what time open

Vance: On that page, http://www.esl-lab.com/

pon: Maggi you can suggest me

rif has joined

rif: Hi everybody, sorry I am late today

pon: hi rif

Vance: machine problem

Maggi: hi rif

Vance: http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens/grammar.htm

Vance: Rif asks about grammar

From here you can jump to: Homestead or Hear Me or Palace chat logs

Palace text chat logs

[Vance encounters Sophie here and starts sketching out some rough ideas for a plenary address at Sophie's conference in Cyprus in May - gvs]

*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

Vance: Hi there

sophie: Hi!!!

sophie: Where is everyone?

Vance: Im in Hear Me as well.

sophie: Hey I love your new photo

Vance: My favorite hiking hat

sophie: It's great

sophie: Is anyone else online?

Vance: So it's Maggi, Michael, Peter Williams in the HearMe space

sophie: I see. I'll try to log on there

Vance: ok, will you stay here too?

sophie: well, do you think there may be somone coming here?

Vance: I just managed to dig out my humanism jpegs. That's good news.

Vance: I can ask.

Vance: Do you want to go to both places or prefer to stay here.

sophie: Great. L like the idea of a historical overview of CALL

sophie: I don't want to bother anyone. I'll log on the Hearme

Vance: Historical from my perspective, which is a bent slant

sophie: Although I look much cuter here .. ; )

Vance: If you stay here we can chat on the side

Vance: True

sophie: ;)

sophie: OK

sophie: What's your perspective like?

Vance: Well, started in 1979

sophie: You should be a bit objective, n'est pas?

Vance: n'est pas! bien sur

Vance: sorry chatting in hear me, distracting

Vance: so, well, I've been thinking about it. It has to do with the perspectives on CALL through all those years

sophie: that will be very informative and helpful for many people

Vance: People back then had no idea, and only a few of us had a vision

Vance: Even the vision changed over the years

Vance: Now it's coming to fruition, and how what we do now differs from what we imagined ...

Vance: Only, you got me revisiting that humansm thing, and looking at what I said back then (imagined) I was on the right track

Vance: only to see how it's worked out is a little different from what I imagined it would be like, only almost what I predicted ...

Vance: But the interesting thing is what OTHERS thought CALL was and how some are still in that mindset, and how that must be avoided

MichaelC: @64,64 !It's MichaelC

Vance: Hey Michael. I was just sketching out my plenary speech here.

Vance: I guess I'll put it up in the logs.

sophie: HI Michael

MichaelC: I'd like to see what you plan to do for the plenary.

Winsock Error: 10054 - Connection reset by peer

No connection - Click Anywhere to enter a Palace

[The UAE went through a period of weak connectivity and Vance was bumped from both the Palace and HearMe simultaneously - gvs]

From here you can jump to: Homestead or Hear Me or Palace chat logs

Homestead text chat logs

I always start up the Homestead chat at noon GMT, but there is rarely anyone there. Meanwhile, chats start up in the Palace and HearMe, and my attention is there. I don't notice always when someone appears in the Homestead chat. It often happens that when I look there I see that someone has visited, become frustrated, and left. This happened today. Pon appeared and had left by the time I checked. But fortunately, today, Pon joined us in the HearMe chat.

Use the navigation at the top of this page or your browser's BACK button to return to a previous page

For comments, suggestions, or further information on this page, contact Vance Stevens, page webmaster.

Webheads chat logs from December 10, 2000

Last updated: December 11, 2000 in Hot Metal Pro 6.0