Webheads chat logs from November 26, 2000

Meet the people in the chat today


Vance	Michael	Maggi	John	Ying Lan	Pon	Arif
UAE	Australia	Germany	Puerto Rico	Taiwan	Thailand	Turkey

and Dave Kees, living in China

Ying Lan was first to our chat today, which started on time as usual at Homestead since Dave Kees appeared to prefer it there. As others arrived in Hear Me, they all went to Homestead for text chat, while continuing to talk in Hear Me, and then write a little in Hear Me, and eventually we were communicating in Homestead and Hear Me chat, as well as Homestead voice, and even the Palace. Dave even spoke up in the voice chat, Pon checked in from a family gathering in Thailand (we could hear his family in the background) and Arif arrived from Turkey and sent us a picture and an introduction which you can see at rif.htm. We talked about the Thanksgiving and the presidential problems in the USA and Philippines and about how you can create Websites in Homestead, among other topics. Our sense of community was strengthened as pictures of Pon and Arif were uploaded to the web before our very eyes, and when John and Vance invited all to view their family web pages.

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Homestead text chat logs

Connecting to chat server...

Connected and signed in.

You have joined the chat room as Anonymous89.

Members of room: Anonymous89 Anonymous83

You have changed your name to Vance.

Anonymous232 has joined the chat room.

<Vance> Hello, you guys can change your names if you like.

Anonymous232 is now known as ying.

<ying> Vance... I can not connect icq today

<Vance> Hi Ying Lan. I think there is one other person here.

<ying> How are you today?

<ying> one other person ?

<ying> Who? Me?

<Vance> Yeah, my message to you bounced. But I saw you were online.

<Vance> It says there is an anonymous 83 here.

<Vance> Have you been by Hear Me?

<ying> Really... YOu know I just have changed the modem to ADSL this week.

Anonymous1952 has joined the chat room.

<Vance> What does ADSL stand for?

<ying> Yes. I have.. but nobody coming.

Anonymous1952 has left the chat room.

Anonymous83 is now known as da.

da is now known as dave kees.

<dave kees> Hello, I got here early

<Vance> Hello Dave. Haven't seen you in a while.

<dave kees> Yeah, this is first time in a long time

<ying> ADSL= Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line

<Vance> But I've read a number of your postings. You like Wired magazine.

<Vance> Thanks Ying Lan. Is it faster?

<dave kees> I keep my finger on the pulse of things

<ying> It should be faster... but it is weird today.

<dave kees> how's adsl compare to isdl?

<ying> ISDN?

<dave kees> oops, yes

<ying> ISDN=Intergrated Service Digital Network

<Vance> What's the difference? (just talking to John in HearMe)

<Vance> John's on his way.

Anonymous26 has joined the chat room.

Anonymous26 is now known as John.

<dave kees> where's the most activity right now? here or another chat?

<Vance> Today it's here.

<John> Hi, Vance, Ying, and Dave

<Vance> Michael just came online.

<ying> The ADSL is not like ISDN.

<Vance> I guess we have to wean ourselves from voice chat for a while.

<Vance> I'll have to look these up.

dave kees has left the chat room.

ying has left the chat room.

Anonymous20 has joined the chat room.

<Vance> Hi 20

Anonymous51 has joined the chat room.

<Vance> hi 51

Anonymous51 is now known as Michael C.

Anonymous20 is now known as dave kees.

<Vance> Dave and Michael?

<Michael C> Yeh?

<dave kees> i'm back

<Vance> Bad connection

<Michael C> Hi Dave.

Anonymous8 has joined the chat room.

<dave kees> hi Michael

Anonymous8 is now known as Maggi.

<Maggi> hi guys...

<Vance> Is Ying Lan here? Do you and Dave know each other.

<dave kees> I'm not sure we've met, Ying.

<dave kees> Ying, where are you?

John has left the chat room.

<Vance> Yin Lan is probably listening to us in Hear Me

<Vance> Are you able to reach HearMe Dave? I think you were there before.

<Maggi> or having to break up her nephews

<Vance> break up her nephews? What's that mean?

<dave kees> Yeah, I'll get over there in a minute. Gotta serve apple pie and icecream to the kids. Be right back.

<Vance> ok

<Maggi> apple pie and ice crean in China

Anonymous62 has joined the chat room.

Anonymous62 is now known as John.

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<Vance> I'm writing over here.

Michael C has left the chat room.

Michael C has joined the chat room.

<Vance> And Maggi is breaking up a bit.

<Vance> Have you got apple pie and ice cream in Australia, Michael?

<Michael C> Sure do!

<Vance> Thanksgiving is a mystery in Australia

<dave kees> OK, I'm back. We had our Thanksgiving dinner today (late) and for the first time I cooked a turkey.

<John> I'm still eating turkey.

<Vance> Me too, I've got lots of turkey in the fridge

<John> I always cook the dinner here. It's the one day my wife doesn't have to cook a thing.

<Vance> Do you know about Thanksgiving, Ying Lan?

<Vance> Are there other Americans in Guangdong Dave for you to celebrate with?

<Maggi> I've become British and have my turkey at Christmas

<Maggi> Hey John...that's wonderful!

<John> The only reason my wife has to cook on Christmas and New Years is that she has some special menu she likes.

<Maggi> whixh is?

<Maggi> oops...which

<John> Rice and Pigeon Peas with meat, some type of pie made from plantains, and other things like that.

<Vance> http://as2.ipfw.edu:591/2000TOHE/survey4.htm [This is the url to the feedback form on the online conference we weren't able to do our presentation in because of the unfriendly MOO environment. - gvs]

<John> Been there. Filled it out.

<Vance> Good for you John. Did you leave a puddle?

<Michael C> LOL

<Vance> Ying Lan, do you know what a MOO is?

<Vance> She knows what ADSL and ISDN are!

<John> Sure did, and a pile of brown stuff, too.

<Maggi> sounds interesting JOHN

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Anonymous3426 has joined the chat room.

Anonymous3426 is now known as rif.

<John> Hi, Rif.

<rif> hi John how are you

<John> I'm doing fine, Rif. How are you?

<rif> not too bad. just hanging around

Anonymous61 has joined the chat room.

Anonymous61 has left the chat room.

<Vance> Hi anon61

<Vance> too late. We're chatting mostly in the hearme chat now.

<John> I'm trying to read three pages at the same time (two online and one offline).

<Vance> it's nuts

<rif> is anonym61 here?

<rif> Hey John, you are working on your dissertatin right?

<John> Sure, am, Rif.

<John> Sorry, Sure am, Riv

<John> Rif.

<John> (My fingers are getting in the way of my typing.

<John> I'm waiting for final authorization to begin, though.

dave kees has left the chat room.

<rif> good luck john, what is your topic?

<John> I'm doing a study of what it is like to take an online ESL class.

<John> It will be based on interviews of students in different classes.

<rif> cool. Is it going to be a qualitative one?

<John> Yes, it is.

rif has left the chat room.

<John> Gotta go, now. See you all next week.

John has left the chat room.

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HearMe text chat logs

Ying has joined

Status: Connected

Vance has joined

Status: Disconnected

Status: Connected

Vance has joined

Ying has joined

John has joined

John: Hi, all.

Michael has joined

John: Hi, Michael

Ying: Hi, Micael

Michael: Hi Ying.

Maggi has joined

Vance: http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/

Ying: What did you want to say?

Vance: who?

Ying: michael

Ying: Who is Dave kees?

John has left

Ying: I remember him now..

Michael: Eudora - the un-virus email program.

Michael: PGP?

Michael: huh?

Ying: pretty good privcy?

Michael: yes Ying.

Michael: When does hearme.com finish?

Ying: I have no idea about this.

Ying: Will hearme.com supply another service?

Vance: Yeah they will, but I don't think it will work well for us.

Vance: We'll have to see.

Michael: the cable break is near Singapore.

John has joined

John: I've been having trouble with my connection.

Michael: We don't have Thanksgiving in Oz.

Ying: Thanksgiving?

Michael: Eat turkey in the desert????

Guest461 has joined

Ying: Yes. Iam

Ying: Yes. I am here.

Michael: You have so much to say Ying!

Ying: Yes... Nothing to say!!

Guest461 has left

Dave Kees has joined

Ying: Remember what?

Michael: the MOO conference.

John: I filled it out.

Ying: I don't know how to get in the Moo.

John: There are too many commands to remember in the MOO.

Vance: The entire UAE is blocked from MOOs

Michael: So I guess when hearme.com stops we'll go back to the Palace?

John: That's how I felt, also.

John: But you have to be a member to do that, Vance.

Vance: I'm at the Palace now.

Vance: To go to the Palace? It's better if you are a member but you can be a guest

Michael: But can the robot reply to q's?

John: No, to create anything in a MOO.

Vance: Yeah, there's the Eliza experience.

Michael: THAT sounds amazing.

Michael: Does Eliza still exist?

John: Isn't Eliza a Mac program?

Dave Kees: Eliza didn't really say anything of substance. It was just like, "Oh, that's interesting, tell me more."

Michael: A cunning counsellor!

John: I used it ina teacher ed class a few years ago. We found it hilarious.

John: I seem to recall a similar program being advertised lately, but I can't remember it's name.

Michael: National Unity government? (as if!)

Dave Kees: I think Florida voters are going to try to help out with the Philippines problem and vote for a new president.

Michael: smiles

Vance: Might as well. We can hand count your ballots too

Ying: philippines problem?

John: Didn't know that, Maggi.

John: I heard they were going to share the White House. Now we have to decide which one is to be first lady.

Michael: lol

Michael: They could take it in turns..

Vance: I thought they were going to share first ladies

John: LOL

pon has joined

Vance: Maybe that was just while Clinton was still there.

John: Hello, Pon.

Vance: Hello Pon. I've got a web page up for Pon.

Vance: Has anyone seen it?

John: Not yet.

Michael: Hello Pon

Vance: The United Ashram of America

Michael: lol

Maggi: Hi Pon

Maggi has left

Michael: The Phillipines are trying to get rid of their president (Mr Estrada i think his name is.)

Maggi has joined

John: I just lost all sound.

Vance: woo

Maggi: sorry...wanted to close the Palace and hit the wrong one

Dave Kees: Vance, could I recruit you someday to walk me through a Homestead webpage setup?

Michael: It's amazing!!!!!

Michael: That we are taling around the world!

Vance: Yeah, you can do it now if you want.

Maggi: sure is...:-)

John: It's faily straightforward, Dave.

Vance: It's pretty easy

Michael: It still really astounds me

Maggi: It is amazing my

John: I have three people talking, but can't hear a thing.

Dave Kees: Vance, I already started one but having trouble getting things figured out.

Vance: Homepage setup astounds you Michael?

Maggi: Michael...

Vance: OK, what's the problem then, Dave?

Maggi: no silly..

pon: line busy

Michael: So we have Thailand, Germany, China, Taiwan, Puerto Rico, Australia and UAE.

Dave Kees: V, guess I got the first page OK, but can't figure out how to attach more pages.

Michael: Tell me more Maggi!

Vance: What kind of pages would you like to set up? If not complicated ones, easiest to create them offline and ftp them up and then link to them.

Michael: Are you thinking about moving to Denmark? Why?

Maggi: why not?

John has left

Michael: That's no answer maggi!!!

John has joined

Vance: Don't you know about Maggi's happy relationship Michael?

Maggi: I've had enough of Germany

Dave Kees: V, how do you ftp to Homestead?

Vance: fpt.homestead.com

Michael: So there's a man in Denmark Maggi?

Maggi: so you don't know about Lars thwen mc?

pon has left

Dave Kees: I'm clueless on ftp.

Maggi: yes there is...

Ying: Maggi ..you really want to move to Denmark?

Michael: no I didn't know about Lars

Vance: OK, visit http://www.download.com

Maggi: a very sweet one

pon has joined

Vance: and download ws_ftp

Maggi: I've decided to go for the nice guy...

Dave Kees: Homestead doesn't have some Homestead provision for handling that?

Maggi: he is only 40 and never been married

pon: can not hear to contioun

John: I prefer Cute FTP, but it costs USD39.00

Michael: I use Cute FTP too John.

Maggi: he came to visit in October

Ying: go for... it means ... you will marry the guy?

Michael: Good q Ying!

Maggi: I said yes Ying

Vance: ws_ftp is great as far as I can see, and it's free

Vance: I've never tried cute ftp

John: I'll have to try it out.

Ying: Will you regret?

Michael: Another good q!

Maggi: I don't think so Ying

Dave Kees: funny, some people are talking about cute ftp and othes about a cute guy

Vance: Homestead does, Dave. You can use their http upload system.

Maggi: We will give each other space since we have both been alone a long time

John: Ah, and there's also Cute HTML.

Maggi: LOL

Ying: Dave,.. I am not interested in the FTP....

Dave Kees: but ws ftp is better than homestead's thing?

John: USD29.00 I think.

pon: what cute ftp

Maggi: depends which cute interests you

Vance: ftp is better because you can move many files at a time

John: It is a FTP program.

Maggi: mine is free...:-))

Vance: With the http interface you only move one file at a time.

Vance: In fact I have to move files now, because I see Pon's page isnt' there.

Dave Kees: OK, so I should do the ws ftp then.

Vance: And there ftp isn't working today (or yesterday) so I have to use the http interface.

Ying: I have cleaned my room today.. It was untidy.. too many books and magazines.

Vance: Ying Lan, send us a picture of your room.

Ying: Never do it.

Michael: lol

Maggi: I threw out lots of stuff Ying when I moved

Maggi: next time even more will have to go

Ying: Every time, I clean my room.. I always tell myself 'Don't buy book any more."

Maggi: why do you want a picture of her bedroom Vance...:-)?

John: My daughter just got her first computer. I'm trying to convince her to join this class.

Ying: That's good... . the youngest one?

Vance: I think it's interesting to see where everyone lives

John: Yes. But the oldest one also.

Vance: We could all take pictures of a room in our house and put them on the web page.

Maggi: most people sleep in a bed...among other things...

Vance: I like stuff like that, community building

Vance: It doesn't have to be a bedroom.

Michael: Good idea Vance

Maggi: hmmmmmmmmm

Vance: Michael sent around pics of his house once

Vance: You've got me on my balcony

Maggi: glad you added that Vance :-)

Vance: Felix showed us his house

Ying: My room is small and untidy....

Maggi: no bedrooms yet

Maggi: show us the rest of the house Ying

Ying: It is not my house.. it is my parent's house.

Dave Kees: V, there's a lot of WS FTP, there's a freeware one that was downloaded over 2 mil. times. Guess that's good enough.

Maggi: yes, I know...but you live there

Vance: It's interesting to see how people live. I'm looking at a picture right now of Deden sitting in a group of bicyclists.

Dave Kees: BRB

Vance: One thing I've always enjoyed about foreign travel is visits to people's homes.

pon: i think so

Ying: I live in a big house here.

Maggi: I need a ditgital camera

Michael: A big house with a small room Ying?

Michael: Small bedroom.

Vance: You could take a normal picture and send it to me. I can scan it.

Maggi: does it have a garden Ying?

Ying: Because it fills stuff..

Maggi: I have a scanner

Vance: You mean it's full of stuff?

Ying: We had a garden ... but 10 years ago... my mom destroyed it.

Michael: Huh?

Ying: yest.

Vance: A picture that shows stuff says a lot about you.

Michael: How?

Ying: it is full of stuff.

Maggi: boom!

Vance: On purpose or by accident?

Ying: Vance.. you asked me?

Vance: Yeah, destroy means using violence almost

Vance: the what?

Maggi: feng shui

Vance: the feng shui

Vance: yes, I understand

Ying: what?

Michael: How do you pronounce feng shui?

Dave Kees: Ying, I'm in Guangzhou, where are you?

Ying: I am from Taiwan... Actually.. I am a Taiwanese.

Ying: That's right.

Maggi: she'S IN Taiwn

Dave Kees: You're in Taiwan now?

Ying: Yes, I am .

Vance: I just finished filling out the online form

Vance: for the TOHE conference

Dave Kees: What is the form for?

Vance: and I tried homestead ftp again but it doesn't work

John: Evaluation, Dave.

Michael: I have to go everyone. Lovely to talk with you all as usual. Have a good week.

Ying: Maggi.. when will you move to Denmark?

Vance: We participated in a conference but it was a MOO environment so we couldnt' reach it.

Maggi: you too

Dave Kees: Sweet dreams!

John: Bye, Michael. Have a nice week.

Michael: Thanks Dave.

Maggi: mc slaap lekker

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rif has joined

John: Hi, rif.

Ying: hir rif?

Maggi: Hi rif

rif: hi everybody!

Vance: We're a little bit peeved because we paid to particpate in the conference but couldn't because of the MOO

Ying: Rif? it is first time to meet you.

pon: hi

Vance: It wasn't a very well thought out conference.

Maggi: rif was here last week.

Vance: HI RIF

rif: Hi Vance, how are you all doing?

Ying: I don't remember he/she?

rif: Rif is a He from Turkey -)

Maggi: he

Ying: maggi.. when will you marry Mr. Denmark?

Vance: Hi Rif. I've got to tell you where the logs are from last week so you can read them

rif: ok.sounds good

Maggi: I don't know Ying

Maggi: We are not in a hurry Ying

Vance: Just to walk you through Dave, I just logged onto Homestead and clicked "work on my website"

Ying: sorry for asking the question.

Ying: That's good... be not in a hurry.

Maggi: no need to be sorry Ying...:-))

Vance: Then it's Pages and File manager (sorry, I'm assisting Dave on the side here, listening to others)

Maggi: there he is now on icq...LOL

pon: -)) mean?

rif: Where are you now Maggi?

Maggi: in Germany rif-

Dave Kees: OK, Vance, give me a couple minutes to catch up

Ying: I want to go now.

Vance: For Rif, here's the url from last week's chat

Maggi: :-) is a smile pon

rif: Nice to meet you Ying

Ying: See you next week.

Vance: http://www.homestead.comvstevens/files/efi/ch001119.htm [see correction below - gvs]

pon: thank

Vance: Bye ying Lan

John: Good night, Ying.

Dave Kees: Bye Ying!

Maggi: bye Ying

Ying has left

Vance: Dave, then you scroll down to Imported files

Vance: http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/ch001119.htm

Vance: Then Dave, you select a folder to upload to. You have to have created this folder already.

John: I don't recall seeing Pon's picture on the chat log.

Dave Kees: OK, found it. I didn't see this before and I think I can get it OK now.

John: Pon, you sent all of us your picture.

Dave Kees: V, have you downloaded the Homestead sitebuilder?

Vance: no, I just work online

John: I have, Dave. That is what I use for my homestead sites.

Vance: I said, we can hear your family in the background.

Vance: Are you reading here, Pon?

pon: yes

Vance: OK, I'm just uploading the files you sent to the website

Maggi: maybe you are hearing things Vance....-)

pon: will sent after

Vance: ok, that's email to efiwebheads-subscribe@egroups.com

Vance: blank email

Vance: and send the picture to me, vstevens@emirates.net.ae

Vance: and I'll start a web page for you

pon: after chat i will sent my photo

Vance: OK, I'm putting your webheads web page up now.

pon: above email?

Vance: You've already done that, Pon.

pon: sorry, I understand english little

Vance: http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/pon.htm

Vance: Pon, look at the url above

pon: ok

Dave Kees: I'm going to sign off now. Nice to chat with you all!

John: Nice meeting you, Dave.

Maggi: nice chatting with you Dave...:-)

John: Hope to see you again, Mike.

Dave Kees has left

pon: yes

pon: still here

pon: please writing

Vance: email to vstevens@emirates.net.ae

Vance: http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/students.htm

Maggi: now I hear them...

Vance: http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/webheads.htm

Vance: So everyone who sends a picture gets added to the above two pages

Vance: Each picture links to each person's webheads web page

richard has joined

pon: first page

John: Hello, Richard.

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richard has left

Vance: Hi Ric ... hmmm

John: Welcome back, Richard.

pon: heard you but don't understand

pon: soud it is not clear

pon: vace if you ask me please writing.

Vance: I was just saying I would move Rif's picture to the web site

pon: new web?

Vance: He just sent me a picture. I'm going to put it on the web site.

pon: you will take it now

Vance: Yes, I'm putting it there now.

Vance: When it's there, the url will be ...

Vance: http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/rif.jpg

Vance: But it's not there quite yet.

Vance: OK, try the url above and see if you meet Rif.

John: It's there.

Vance: works for me

Vance: Hi Rif, nice to meet you.

Vance: Rif is talking about how people can understand each other better through the Internet.

John: If you want to meet my family, go to http://www.jhsteele.com

Vance: Mine is at http://www.vancestevens.com/

pon: see you again next week

Vance: ok, bye Pon. Nice to see you again.

John: See you again, next week, Pon.

pon: now i will sent my photo

John: I think I will too.

Maggi: bye guys...:-)

Vance: OK, I look forward to receiving it.

John: Bye, Vance. I think I'll be leaving soon, too.

John: Bye all.

Maggi: nice as always...

rif: it is nice talking with you guys. I gotta leave too

pon has left

rif: same here. Take care all. Warm greetings from Turkey

Vance: ok, see you

Vance: brb (nature)

rif: bye bye...

John: See you next week.

rif has left

Vance: We've just entered Ramadhan here

John has left

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Palace text chat logs

*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

John: @64,64 !It's John

John: Hi, Vance.

Vance: Hi there

Mad: @64,64 !It's Mad

John: Hi, MAD

Mad: Hi...thought I'd dropp in...

Mad: Vance only has one eye today...lol

John: I have three windows open today. Get's kinda slow reading each one.

Mad: one is hidden, so I cqan't read them all

John: Every time I read a window, I have to hide another one.

Mad: real pain

Mad: I'm clsing this one

John: Same here.

Vance: Sorry, I didn't see you guys talking here.

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