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Webheads chat logs from November 5, 2000

Meet the people in the chat today

Vance Maggi Michael John Ying Lan Felix
UAE Germany Australia Puerto Rico Taiwan Brazil

and a mystery guest, silent and never identified

Here are some things we talked about today:

HearMe text chat logs

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Status: Connected

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John: Michael, I cannot hear you. Morning, Vance.

Ying: hi. Vance.

Vance: Hi, couldyou hear me?

Vance: I can't hear Michael either.

Maggi: Vance and Ying come through

John: Michael, I can hear you clearly (but nobody else.)

Vance: is very clear

John: Sorry, It was

Maggi: now I hear you mc

John: Vance I could hear. Now I can hear you, Michael.

Maggi: ok

Ying: You have to drive what?

Michael: I'm going 200 k into the country to deliver a workshop.

Maggi: drive where?

Michael: I'm going to Port Pirie.

Maggi: not the outbacks yet eh?

Maggi: 200 k is nothing

Ying: Have a vacation in summer..

Michael: Not the outback, nor the donga, nor whoop whoop (that was the other one)

Ying: what kind of workshop?

Ying: internet trainning camp

Michael: A training workshop for staff (teachers) on using the Internet

Maggi: camp is more sleeping in a tent

John: Those long trips always killed me.

Michael: brb....

Maggi: 200k is a long trip?

John: Takes me two hours just to drive 90 KM here.

Maggi: maybe on an island...

Maggi: you could almost fly in a car here

Ying: In Chinese.. we always say... camp not workshop.

Maggi: lots of people drive over 200 k an hour

Michael: I'm back.

Maggi: now Ying is breaking up...

Maggi: men can chew the cud too!

John: Of course we can, Maggi.

Michael: 2 - 2.5 hours for 200 k's.

Maggi: spit better too!

John: Don't know about that. You should see my daughters spit.

Maggi: lol...they practiced

Maggi: your spoiled Vance

John: Of course. They had a good teacher.

John: When I have school business, they give me a car and a driver.

Maggi: ROTFL::::

Maggi: anyrthing?

John: Our driver likes to stop at the Mall and have us go shopping on the way back home from meetings and workshops.

Maggi: kill two birds with one stone

Ying: why I call what... I can not hear your voice. ..

Michael: why you called a workshop a camp..

Maggi: you faded out mc

Maggi: I here you Vance and John

Michael: yep

Ying: I hear you.. maggi.

Michael: i can hear everybody!

Maggi: weird

John: This sort of scares me -- What's going to go wrong?

Michael: weird = unusual

John: There's a what?

Vance: I'm getting multiple greens and no sound

John: I get pings in my earphones?

Maggi: see...there it goes...

John: ????

John: Vance, that happened to me a couple of weeks ago.

John: I get pings sometimes.

Maggi: she's very busy at the moment

Maggi: working on the web site too

Ying: Who is she?

John: That sounds like a good idea, Michael.

Michael: the lady from Jamaica.

Maggi: Bridgett lives in Jamaca

John: That's another thing men do well, Maggi.

Vance: Now I'm stuck on green

Vance: What do you think, Ying Lan?

Vance: About the t-shirt design?

John: It took my department almost three years from the time we first thought about tee shirts until we finally had them made.

Vance: Pass the buck, Michael

John: Maggi said that you and Vance were passing the buck.

Vance: snap

John: It was a continuation of a previous conversation.

Michael: I see!

Vance: We would get a sponsor to pay the money

Michael: Are you eating again Vance?

Michael: lol

Vance: Someone who has a business relating to webheads

Michael: Who? Nettie?

John: No, didn't know about it.

Ying: Nettis is well off?

John: What does her company make or sell?

John: Good Night, Michael.

Michael: Good night from me!

John: You too, Michael. Have fun tomorrow.

Ying: good night.

Michael: Thanks Maggi/Vance.

Maggi: slaap lekker

Ying: have fun

Vance: Break a leg is a way to wish good luck

Michael: Bye!

Michael has left

Ying: Bread a leg...

Vance: Break

Maggi: bread it only if you want to eat it...LOL

John: Ying, you don't wish a performer good luck. It is bad luck to say that, so people say break a leg.

Ying: It is sarcastic?

Maggi: Americans do this not all other culures

John: No, I thinig it is a superstition, Ying.

John: sorry, Think

Maggi: like Germans open umbrellas inside to dra...

Maggi: dry

Maggi: but hey never wish someone happy birthday BEFORE the day

Maggi: bad luck

John: ButI thought opening an umbrella inside was bad luck.

Maggi: but I suck air every time I see all those open umbellas in the hall

John: Ah, yes.

Maggi: for Americans yes John...not Germans

John: Yes, Ying, saying break a leg is superstitious.

John: Maggi, how about walking under a ladder?

Maggi: the thing with the birthday congrats is causing me some grief

Vance: Why's that?

John: Yes, it has to be someone who is going to perform.

Ying: "Break a leg" only for a proformer.

Ying: performer

John: That's right, Ying.

Vance: a performer, yeah I think so

Maggi: it's ok to say it here up to weeks after...so I don't need to remember birthdays

Maggi: which has me in deep poop with American and British friends

John: That would be great for me. The only birthday I ever remember is my wife's.

Maggi: it is really practical

John: I went to class one evening, (as a student) wrote the date on the paper and realized it was my birthday.

Vance: That's a good one John.

Maggi: geez John...talk about being in a fog...:-)

Vance: I was hitchhiking with my wife one day ..

Vance: only she wasn't my wife yet ...

John: It was a few years ago. I was still working on my undergraduate degree.

Vance: and we got to talking about birthdays

Vance: and the driver asked when my bday was

John: And it was her birthday?

Vance: and I said, 'Yesterday'

Vance: So, it was my future wife who was embarassed

John: So, what did the driver say?

John: Ah, so.

John: She had forgotten.

Vance: He said ...

John: My wife never remembers birthdays and other such things. She says they are not important.

Ying: Your fuuture wife now bobby

Vance: happy birthday!!

Maggi: hey...nobody is perfect...:-)

Vance: Yep, Bobbi

John: No, My birthday is in January.

Ying: Bobbi.

John: So, did anybody ever find out about resistors and capacitors?

John: I was going to look it up, but forgot all about it.

Ying: I am stupid about ... electrical stuff.

John: Guess it wasn't important enough. Especially with elections coming up.

John: So, Vance, did you do your civic duty yet?

Ying: What were you talking about maggi.. I am wrong.

John: Yeah, I would have problems voting if I was in the states. None of them convince me.

John: Here, I'll take my wife and youngest daughter to the polls. My wife and I will vote statehood, and my daughter will vote indepenence

Vance: I can see your icon light up green John, but I can't hear you.

John: sorry Independence

John: My icon? I haven't tried talking for a few minutes now.

Ying: You don't like Bush?

John: I don't like any of them.

Maggi: you do Ying?

Ying: I have no idea with two people.

John: I always thought that was a quality of a good polititian -- talk for an hour and say absolutely nothing.

Ying: We have a big problem here...

John: What is it, Ying?

Ying: I don't know how to say it in English...

John: Nuclear electrical factory? Is that what you said?

Maggi: same with managers in business and Bush went to Yale

John: sorry, say

Ying: yes.

John: Hmmm.

Ying: Our president have decided not to build the Nuclear electrical frcory..

John: So, here, if the governor decided to build one, nobody would like it.

Ying: But KKT wants to stop the policy ..

Ying: they theart ... to let our president not to be president.

Ying: How to say this stitution in English.

Vance: I read about this. It's a plant that's already half built, right?

Vance: They want to impeach him

Ying: YES

Vance: Talk about changing horses in mid-stream

Ying: they want to pull him out of the stage.

Ying: it is serous more than impeach.

Ying: serious

John: Be back in a minute -- nature calls.

Vance: more serious than

Ying: It is more serious than impeach.

Maggi: impeachment

Ying: Talk about changing horses in mid-stream.. what is this.

John: In what way, Ying?

Ying: Can you wait second... I check it ..

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John: Vance, while waiting for Ying to check it, your presentation the 13th is at 8:00 est, right?

John: Morning, Felix.

Vance: That's correct John

Ying has left

John: Hope I can make it. That's 9:00 my time.

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Vance: aaargghhh can't hear you Felix

Ying: hi , felix

Felix: hi maggi, hi john

Felix: hi ying

Felix: everyone is so quiet!!!!!!! why?

Vance: I can't hear you so well,

John: Hi, Felix. Is this course like a convention?

John: We have one coming up this month. But it is only 4 days.

John: Remember who, Felix?

John: Your voice seems to be breaking up.

John: I'm having trouble hearing you, Vance. Your voice is breaking up a little.

Felix: Fabricio.

Felix: He's going with me.

Felix: Where are you now John?

Felix: It's my f****** damn microphone

Felix: what?

John: Could be my earphones.

Vance: No worries. Just wondering what you're up to these days.

Ying: The three major opposition parties want to recall our president.

Vance: We miss you. Now it's just Ying Lan who'se here wek after week.

Vance: Oh, isn't recall like impeachment?

Felix: ok pals... I've gotta go. Need to pack my clothes

Vance: Just go in what you're wearing. Stay and talk to us!

John: OK, Felix, good luck.

Vance: No need to pack.

Vance: Tell Fabricio to pack two bags

John: I think recall and impeachment a the same, but I'm not exactly sure.

Vance: seriously, nice talking to you. Have a good trip

Felix: thanks Vance

Felix: bye bye all

Maggi: bye Felix

Felix has left

John: Yes, he does seem like a nice guy.

John: Vance, your voice just faded away.

Vance: I've got to go anyway. I have an Arabic class tonight.

Ying: ok

John: Have fun in class tonight.

Vance: Hang on, I just thought of something I need to do here.

Ying: To learn Arabic by watching TV.

Maggi: Have fun Vance...

Vance: I have to go next door for a moment

John: Or movies, Ying.

Vance: No, I have a class at the Alliance Francais

Vance: That way, if the other students speak French, for me at least it's another foreign language

John: Vance, before you joined, Ying and I were talking about movies and TV as a way of learning languages.

Vance: oh, yeah, we're trying to get into video capture here and production of materials using video clips

Maggi: good way to learn the latest slang too

Vance: for sure

John: Sure is.

Maggi: and culture

John: We use movies in our classes, and the students watch them in the Language Laboratory.

Ying: But I can not learn new word from watching TV

John: Why not, Ying?

Ying: Because I don't know how to spell it.

Ying: Sometimes, I don't get the word from voice...

John: They sell TVs now that write out what they are saying.

Ying: I have Chinses sub-title.

John: Closed Captioning is what they call it.

John: Ours is set for English, so when we are watching Spanish TV it comes out really weird.

Vance: Yes, that's an excellent system. For example, all CNN is closed captioned

John: Most programs in Puerto Rico have closed captioning.

Ying: Really.. I never see CNN with closed captioned.

Maggi: you can join CNN Newsroom and get tapescripts

Vance: You have to turn the Closed Captioning on

John: I think you can also get tapescripts from other stations.

Maggi: as a student and teacher

Maggi: not all tv's have it Vance

Vance: All tvs made in the USA the past couple of years have been required to have it

John: If you don't have it (One of ours does, the other doesn't) you have to but a little box to see it.

Maggi: We don't all live in the US

Ying: I don't know where to but it in

Vance: Any idea where to get those little boxes, John?

Ying: Taiwan.

John: No, I don't, but I think they can be found in electronics stores.

Ying: buy

John: We are experimenting with closed captioning for reading comprehension.

John: But we bought TV's with it already installed.

Maggi: hard to read, watch and listen at he same time

John: Sure is, but the chairperson got it funded, so we are working on it.

John: We are also in the process of eliminating our traditional listening laboratory and putting in a TELL Center.

Maggi: what is TELL?

Vance: You can capture the closed caption on your computer, stream it in as you watch tv

John: Technology Enhanced Language Learning -- uses computers, etc.

John: That is one of our ideas, Vance.

Maggi: like CALL

Ying: Call

Ying: what is the CALL?

Maggi: computer assisted language learning

John: Yes, but the chancellor liked Technology instead. Computer Assisted langauge Learning, Ying.

Maggi: leaves you open to a wider field John...:-)

John: So, is anybody going to attend Vance's presentation the 13th?

John: It sure does, Maggi.

Maggi: I'm working

Vance: Actually, we have two presentations that day, Michael is giving one too

John: So am I, but I hope to be there.

Maggi: Michael will be there

John: Really, when is Michael's?

Vance: I'll announce it on Webheads

Vance: Michael's is 2:30 a.m. GMT

John: Last time I attended a virtual conference I got sick in the middle -- and had students evaluations all day.

Vance: mine is 13:00 GMT

John: 2:30 GMT would be 10:30 EST?

Vance: I'll get that announcement out

John: No, 9:30

Maggi: 3.30 am for me and 14.00

John: I'll look it up in the program.

Ying: I am sorry. ... I have to go now.

Ying: sleepy

John: See you later, Ying.

Vance: Well you don't have to work for the first one then, Maggi ..

Maggi: bye Ying...

Ying: bye

Vance: Yeah, see you Ying Lan. Nice to see my favorite student again.

Maggi: for the first one I am asleep

Ying: Thanks Vance....

John: It's 9:00 AM my time (and 10:30 for Michael's)

Vance: (yeah, just kidding Maggi)

Ying: I am not a good student...

John: Why not, Ying?

Ying: I join UV course... too many new word I don't know.

Vance: You are an excellent, persistent, and dedicated webhead, which I think is a kind of student

John: I think you are a very good student.

Vance: Ying Lan, anyone who attends any kind of class for two years each week is the BEST kind of student

Maggi: not knowing new words does NOT make you a bad student Ying...:-)

John: Definitely!

John: If you knew everything in the class, you wouldn't need to take it.

Ying: But most of your conversation... I don't understand it.

Vance: You must be improving more than other people who were at your same level when you started

Maggi: sure you do Ying...:-)

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Vance: You should ask us whenever you want explanation

John: Our conversation is a bit technical right now, but you seem to be understanding it fairly well.

Maggi: Hi 282

John: Hi, 282

Vance: We sometimes talk to each other in familiar ways

Maggi: it's good exposure Ying...

Vance: We use a lot of idioms

Vance: Hi 282, use Options to change your name

Maggi: which you don't need to use but get the meaning behind it.

John: We are curious, too, Ying.

John: One dark day in the middle of the night

Vance: Curiosity killed the cat but satisfaction brought it back

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Maggi: well...now we will never know

John: two dead boys had a fight.

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Maggi: sounds like some of the ghost stories my trainees wrote last week

John: Welcome back, Guest282. Can you tell us your name?

John: a deaf policeman heard the noise

Maggi: yeh John...why?

John: pulled out his gun and killed the two dead boys.

Vance: he's being enigmatic

John: No, it's an old story I just remembered.

Maggi: facitious

Maggi: oops

John: If you don't believe this tale so tall,

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Vance: facetious

Vance: ??

John: just ask the blind man, he saw it all.

Maggi: tongue-in-cheek

John: Not serious.

John: Oh, I'm a fish.

Maggi: I see said the blind man

John: I don't know what you would call it. I learned this poem as a very young child. It is full of impossibilities and idiomatic expressions.

Maggi: do you drink like one John?

John: That's what I meant, Maggi.

John: Especially European Beer (don't give me any of this water they call beer down here.)

Vance: When I said, "John, we didn't know you drank until now," was I being facetious?

Maggi: I know what you mean!

John: I thought you were being serious.

John: I have a theory that all English teachers drink.

Maggi: ROTFL:::

John: sounds good to me, Ying.

Vance: exactly

John: Right.

Maggi: great!

Ying: Thanks

John: Actually, Vance, were you being facetious?

John: ???

Maggi: no, he drinks too John!

Ying: Do you have what meaning?

John: Didn't hear you very well.

Maggi: among other things....:-)

Vance: I have a wee drop now and then.

John: Like I said -- all English teachers.

Vance: (wee = small)

Vance: Wee is Scottish

Maggi: the Irish use it too...the wee people

Ying: this time,,, I want to go.. see you next week. Enjoy your scottish.

Vance: Do you mean my Scotch?

Vance: hic

Maggi: bye Ying!

John: Bye Ying.

Vance: Bye, nice to see you again.

Vance: See you next week

Vance: And I'm going too.

Ying: See

John: I thought that was what you meant by Scottish, Vance.

Ying: See you

John: See you Vance.

Maggi: I don't drink the hard stuff...

John: I guess I better be going, too.

Vance: OK John, nice to see you again too.

Maggi: well then ... let's all go!

John: Nice seeing all of you again.

Maggi: Bye guys!

Vance: Yep, one two three ...

Maggi: hic

Ying has left

Maggi: one down

John has left

Vance: How many of those are you going to drink, Maggi?

Maggi: two down

Maggi: one to go

Vance: You'd better go slow on that stuff.

Maggi: :-)

Maggi: merci

Vance: Sipping the last one, I hope.

Maggi: sure

Maggi: bye

Vance: ok, I just got the logs, so three is about down

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