Webheads chat logs from August 27, 2000

Meet the people in the chat today


Vance	Maggi	Michael	Ying Lan	Sue
USA	Germany	Australia	Taiwan	Japan

and our friends Sophie from Cyprus, Gio from Italy, and Jack, from Lurkerland

This chat started in Hear Me but ended up mainly at the Palace. Ying Lan was first to arrive, but she didn't feel well (something she ate) so she left after a short while. Sophie came along to the Palace, followed by Gio, who was happy to have found us there after previous attempts to meet with us. Vance explained to Gio what the Webheads class was all about and how it met in three places (weekly online chats, the eclass, and its web pages). In the end Vance re-discovered how to make avatars from photographs, and he's now ready to help others make their own avatars as well.

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Hear Me text chat logs

Ying has joined

Maggi has joined

Status: Connected

Vance has joined

Ying: Badly

Ying: I am sick

Vance: Hi, going for a mike

Vance: a mic

Ying: Yesterday, I ate some cookies..

Maggi: what do you have?

Vance: Did you get sick from eating cookies?

Maggi: stomach?

Ying: Something wrong with my stomach?

Ying: typhoon?

Maggi: after eating the cookioes...

Maggi: oops...cookies

Maggi: yes

Ying: Something wrong with my stomach after eating the cookies..

Ying: I have been weakness for two days...

Maggi: just weak

Maggi: so you don't want to talk...:-)

Ying: The wrost one... I try to get some sleep in day.. but I could not get it.

Ying: worst

Maggi: during the day

Ying: I would plan to drop in to say hello then I cut off the line.

Maggi: I was in the hospital on Friday to get the big screw out of my bones

Ying: The worst one is I can not get sleep during the day.

Ying: Oh...

Ying: Everthing all right now?

Maggi: I got up at 5 to be there at 7 like they said...

Vance: I'm having trouble getting away from my office mates. Is anyone at the Palace?

Maggi: they didn't take me until close to 11...I could have stayed in bed longer...

Ying: Was it an operation?

Maggi: I got to go home at 3 in the afternoon because I was driving them crazy...

Maggi: yes

Maggi: and I was so hungry and thirsty...

Ying: You were going to be crazy or doctor was going to be crazy?

Maggi: to drive someone crazy is to pester them

Ying: You did not eat anything from 7?

Maggi: they said I had to wait 6 hours...

Maggi: no...nothing to eat and drink from 10pm the night before...

Ying: hi. Vance

Maggi: 6 hours after an operation

Ying: Poor maggi...

Maggi: I talked a nurse into bringing me a cup of coffee and some zwieback toast

Ying: Nobody is at the palace except me.

Ying: I am sorryl... it is hard to open my eyes now.

Maggi: maybe you should get some sleep

Ying: I feel very tired now.

Ying: May I leave now?

Vance: Ying Lan, sorry you're so tired. Is this from your stomache ache?

Maggi: you don't have to ask pwermission to leave Ying

Maggi: permission

Vance: Are you really sick? Of course, you should leave if you need to.

Ying: Yes... I always be tried when my stomach ach..

Vance: But I'm concerned about you ... aches

Ying: It is not ache... just I feels it is full of air in my stomach.

Maggi: maybe it is

Maggi: baking soda does the trick for me

Maggi: one big belch and it feels better

Ying: When I got up today.. I feel my bones just like broken up..

Vance: Really? Cramps?

Ying: cramps?

Maggi: that has nothing to do with cookies and your stomach

Maggi: cramps in her bones?

Ying: It is serious to say be cramps..

Vance: What would make you feel like your bones were broken?

Ying: I was uncomfortable.

Vance: .. to have cramps ...

Vance: From the cookies?

Ying: I was getting tired ../..

Ying: I guess it is.

Ying: I can not eat any bread or cookies...

Vance: Were they greasy cookies?

Ying: No.. it is normal cookies.

Maggi: all types of bread?

Ying: Yes...

Maggi: maybe you are allergic to something in them

Ying: I only eat rice..

Ying: I was good before..

Vance: Maybe you're tired from not eating enough food

Ying: I liked to eat bread.

Ying: Last year, I found my stomach and liver were in trouble.

Maggi: I broke my leg and it didn't hurt

Ying: You are so brave!!

Maggi: it only hurt after they operated

Vance: I remember that. Is this a possible cause?

Vance: That's interesting, Maggi

Maggi: that's why I wanted to ring the dr's neclk...lol

Maggi: neck

Vance: Still no one in the Palace?

Ying: It is time to go... My eyes is ....

Vance: You're eyes are killing you?

Vance: sore?

Ying: Yes... on one in the Palace

Maggi: falling shut

Vance: that's it!

Ying: a little.

Vance: Your eyes are falling shut.

Vance: Best to sleep and have nice dreams.

Ying: sour

Vance: Is it still hot there?

Maggi: I call it fading out

Vance: sore?

Vance: Ying is fading out.

Ying: what do you mean "fading out"?

Maggi: hey did a fade out yesterday when they put me to sleep

Ying: I am getting to be old?

Vance: Slowly disappearing

Vance: We are all getting older. You are still young.

Maggi: no Ying..

Vance: People in Hunza used to live to be 140 or so.

Maggi: hey...statistics show I've still got 35 years left or so

Vance: One man interviewed said the best time of life was when he was 75

Ying: waaa....

Vance: Now people in Hunza eat junk food and die young

Maggi: great...then I am a spring chicken

Ying: I don't want to live to be 140.. it is too old.

Maggi: depends on what shape you are in

Ying: Health is very import fot an old man.

Ying: for

Maggi: and an old woman ^.^

Ying: important

Ying: I hope ... somebody will come here later...

Maggi: I had a dream last night someone asked me to marry them

Ying: Really???

Maggi: a doctor?

Ying: Is it a boy?

Ying: to marry them?

Maggi: he is 40 now so I guess he isn't a boy any more

Ying: them is plural noun

Ying: your boyfriend?

Vance: to marry him, I hope, or would this be a menage a troi?

Vance: Well spotted, Ying!

Maggi: I don't have a boyfriend

Ying: oh... that's my words.

Maggi: hmm...we use it when speaking in the third person or?

Vance: Guys don't know what they're missing, you two young ladies out there ...

Maggi: want to pass the word around then?!

Ying: I want to go...

Ying: see you next week.

Maggi: get some sleep Ying

Ying: thanks maggi.. I tired.

Maggi: hope you feel better in the morning

Ying: tried

Ying: Thanks.

Vance: Nice talking to you again YL

Ying: me too.

Maggi: have a good week

Vance: Hope you're feeling better tomorrow.

Ying: you too.

Maggi: ^0^

Ying: That's my hope.

Ying: see you.

Maggi: bye

Vance: bye

Ying has left

Vance: (sniff sniff)

Vance: (wave wave)

Vance: I'm going to the palace on my other computer, just in case

Vance: Just for the record, that went on from noon to 12:30

Vance: I'm not listening. Hang on ...

Vance: sorry, again?

Michael has joined

Vance: are you unable to reach the Palace, Maggi?

Maggi: sorry...it seems to have deleted itself...lol

Maggi: I have to download it again

Maggi has left

Maggi has joined

Michael: lol

Michael: witchitee grubs?

Michael: witchity?

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Maggi: if I said you had a good body would you hold it against me?

Sue: what is the meaning?

Maggi: it is a play on words

Maggi: litterally to hold something against someone is to get in close contact

Maggi: it also means to be prejudiced...

Maggi: something that might upset someone

Maggi: help me here Vance

Maggi: it is a way of asking someone to hold yoou

Maggi: in an indirect way

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The Palace - Avatar-based text chat logs

Vance:
Connecting to efi.virtualscholar.com:9998
Connected via TCP
*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!
Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance
sophie: @64,64 !It's sophie
sophie: Hi Vance
sophie: Don't tell me
sophie: Everyone is in Hearme
Vance: Hi Sophie.
Vance: Just Maggi. SHe's telling jokes.
Vance: Ying Lan was there but she was feeling sick and so she left
Vance: Nice avatar, looks just like you.
sophie: oh, well last Sunday of August...people may have gone put for the day
Vance: I've got some avatars too but I never bothered to put them on this computer
sophie: oh, thank you about the avatar
Vance: Michael is at Hear me too.
sophie: I thought it reminded me of me
sophie: nice to hear it from soneone else...
sophie: Vance, what can one do about the ads that keep coming on?
Vance: So what's up. I guess you got my email
Gio: @64,64 !It's Gio
Vance: Yeah, I've got those too. Have you got that obnoxious banner that comes right in over the palace window and won't go away?
Gio: hello1
Vance: Hi Gio, someone that looks just like Sophie
sophie: yeah!
sophie: hi Gio
Gio: Yes, sorry for my look, but I found this.
sophie: why are you aorry?
sophie: *sorry
Vance: You guys must have been looking in the same boutique.
sophie: haha
Gio: Yes, I think th same
sophie: Vance, I just checked my e-mails now
sophie: GREAT news!
sophie: I'm so glad
Vance: Yeah, me too.
Vance: Sophie invited me to attend her conference, Gio, and I agreed.
sophie: I'm sure we'll sort out all the details soon
Gio: Good, where is the conference?
sophie: it's fab
sophie: in Cyprus
Gio: not on line?
sophie: not online
Gio: Ah.
MichaelC: @64,64 !It's MichaelC
MichaelC: Hello everyone.
sophie: we probably will put talks etc online
Vance: Hi Michael. Why don't you have an online component, Sophie?
sophie: hello Michael
MichaelC: Gio - have we met?
Gio: Good, and what's about the conference Sophie?
Vance: Are you a teacher too Gio?
Gio: No, I'm not a teacher...

MichaelC: Which conference is this?
Jack: @64,64 !It's Jack
sophie: what do you do Gio?
Gio: I study english and I subscribed your mailing list.
MichaelC: Welcome Gio.
MichaelC: And same to you Jack.
Gio: Hello Michael.
Vance: I was just checking up on the egroups lists. Are you getting webheads emails, Gio?
sophie: A conference on CALL that we are having in Cyprus
Vance: Hi there Jack.
sophie: Hi Jack!
Gio: No, aftwer two weeks I unsubscribed.
Jack: Hi~~~
MichaelC: I see - when is the conference?
Vance: CALL is computer assisted language learning
sophie: in May 2001
sophie: Why did you unsubscribe Gio?
MichaelC: If I get rich before then I'll come Sophie.
Vance: OK, just curious. You can subscribe to the list and unsubscribe as you like. You have complete control over that.
Vance: It's nice to see you back though.
sophie: that would be grest Michael
Gio: Yes.
sophie: *great
Vance: And Jack, are you a webhead as well?
Gio: It's a long time I wanted to see this chat.
sophie: I found the asterisk way of correcting myself
Gio: I came in the virtual school always in the wrong time!
Gio: Today is the firtst time!
Vance: It's great you finally arrived. You came at a good time.
sophie: so, this is your first time here gio? (with people)
Vance: Ying Lan was here earlier but she felt sick and left.
Vance: (I hope not because of us)
sophie: Where are you from Gio?
sophie: sorry, vance
Vance: Gio, Jack, where are you guys now?
MichaelC: It's OK. He's used to being stepped on.
Gio: Sorry?
MichaelC: Sophie bumped into Vance so she said sorry.
sophie: just stepped in the classroom for a while
Vance: I mean, what country are you in right now?
Gio: I'm in Italy.
sophie: and Michael, made a witty remark..
MichaelC: We used to go into the classroom every week but people seem to prefer it out here.
Gio: Yes, the courtyard is better.
Vance: I think it's better out here because when people arrive they can find you easily.
sophie: are there any otehr rooms as well?
sophie: *other
MichaelC: The Palace has hundreds of rooms...
Vance: Yes, if you click on the doors you enter the other rooms.
MichaelC: ...well maybe 50.
sophie: yes, I meant the virtual school
Vance: That's true, at other urls.
Gio: Why don't we try?
sophie: by the way, waht's with the parrot?
sophie: *what
sophie: get the parrot away from me!!!
MichaelC: I always put the parrot on the roof.
sophie: I don't get on with birds very well
Vance: I'll send my parrot after him .
Gio: I was just jocking!
sophie: now, there are two of them
Gio: but whose parrot is that?
MichaelC: Sorry Sophie. Three!
sophie: aahhhh!
MichaelC: He's a Palace parrot!
sophie: running away
Vance: Maybe Gio went to try another room
sophie: I think so
MichaelC: Or maybe she hates parrots...
sophie: Hope she finds her way back
Gio: @64,64 !It's Gio
Vance: Maybe she's gone to look for some cats
sophie: where has jack gone?
MichaelC: LOL
sophie: Hi Gio
Vance: I don't know who jack is. Maybe he just dropped by.
MichaelC: Jack is a mystery.
Vance: Did you visit the other room, Gio?
Gio: Yes, I did
Vance: There are two rooms, behind both doors.
Gio: But nobody is inside.
Vance: So Gio, tell us about yourself. Do you know us from our web pages?
sophie: the guys seem to be in a very playful mood
Gio: Yes, iwas looking for an online english course...
Vance: Yeah, the Palace can be a playful place.
sophie: you like to play magicians right?
Gio: and I found EFI.
MichaelC: I haven't been at the Palace much lately. It's fun to be back here.
MichaelC: You do magic Sophie?
sophie: I think it is more fun than hearme
Gio: The point is that I don't understanf EFI classroom.
Vance: We aren't a course where we teach you English exactly. But we can point you to English lessons if you want.
sophie: I used to know some tricks..
Gio: Tell me more, please.
MichaelC: That's interesting Sophie. Why is this better than hearme for you?
Vance: I think every EFI course is different. You can join more than one if you like.
Vance: In this one, we have 3 ways of communicating.
sophie: For one, I think it is much more fun
Vance: One way is online, like we are doing now.
Gio: yes
Gio: OK
sophie: I like interacting in a context
Vance: And we log the chats so you can read this later.
Gio: ok
Vance: (I agree Sophie; I like it here)
sophie: and I also like looking at people even if it is only theri happy faces
Vance: A second way is through our list. The list is very active.
MichaelC: I see. And it is true - here you can create different contexts more easily.
sophie: green faces!
Gio: ok
sophie: thanks Vance
Gio: and the third?
Vance: The avatars can be creative Sophie. For example, you can use your actual picture. Maybe I can illustrate in a while.
sophie: Michael!!!
sophie: I know Vance
Vance: And Gio, the third way is we help students to develop their web pages.
MichaelC: Now I look really handsome.
sophie: I am no expert but I have been visiting the Palace in other rooms other days of the week
Vance: Whatever students write for the web pages, we correct.
Gio: Ok, but what can we do with the web pages?
sophie: WoW Michael!!!
Vance: Have you seen some of the other students' web pages?
MichaelC: I did it for you Sophie!
Gio: never
sophie: I'm blushing
Vance: Have you visited http://www.netword.com/webheads ?
sophie: Now, this avatar I like because it is vry much me
Gio: tell me the address again
Vance: It really is. I met Sophie in Barcelona, and this one looks almost like her.
MichaelC: Then I think I like you! I've never found an avatar that was me.
Vance: And the one I'm using looks almost like me!
sophie: blushing again
MichaelC: That's true Vance.
sophie: hahahah
sophie: lol
Vance: http://www.netword.com/webheads
sophie: my belly hurts from laughing Vance
sophie: maybe if you add a moustache
Vance: I'll hold it on the screen with shift-6
Vance: ^http://www.netword.com/webheads
Gio: I go and visit it, wait for me.
Vance: You can also copy it from the logs. ok
* Gio * where's the log?
sophie: thanks for your nice compliment Michael
sophie: you look cute with the glasses on
MichaelC: Who took my glasses???
Vance: Why didn't you tell me you liked glasses?
MichaelC: lol
sophie: stop it Vance!
sophie: your glasses make me dizzy
sophie: hahahaha
MichaelC: So cool.
sophie: I wish there was a way to show you how much I am enjoying myself and giggling over here
Vance: You can pick up the glasses, put them in your suitcase, and then put them on!
MichaelC: I can hear you laughing Sophie.
sophie: Hm....no, thank you
sophie: Micheal is cool
Vance: It would rather spoil the effect.
sophie: Men in Black kind of thing
sophie: not any more
MichaelC: Yeh - man in black.
MichaelC: Hang on a minute - got a call!
Gio: )AMEN (Gio is trying out the sound effects; we can hear the sounds she sends on our computers - Vance)
Gio: )AMEN
MichaelC: )APPLAUSE
Vance: Good one Gio!
Gio: )BOOM
Gio: )POP
MichaelC: I'm off the phone now.
sophie: Michael looked mean a moment ago
sophie: still does
sophie: oh, glasses are off
sophie: so, nobody has managed to get rid of the advets yet?
Vance: Did you have a look at the web pages Gio?
Gio: I couldn't get the address!
MichaelC: Ads here are a new thing. We didn' have them for the first couple of years.
Vance: I'll give you an alternative one.
Gio: thank you
sophie: I think I got a program that can get rid off them
Vance: ^http://www.homestead.com/vstevens/files/efi/webheads.htm
sophie: let me give it a try
sophie: just a sec
MichaelC: OK...
sophie: By the way jack is in one of the classrooms (behind the big door)
Gio: I got it
Vance: If you click on a picture, you'll see a students' web page.
MichaelC: So Jack is on his own?
Vance: Hey Michael, can you run get him? I'm keeping logs out here.
sophie: yes, he is on his own
sophie: let me go
Vance: Sophie volunteers. Good work Sophie. So Gio, are you meeting the students?
MichaelC: Any luck with Jack?
sophie: He's not responding.
sophie: I gave himthe info he needs to get back here
MichaelC: Quite kind of guy.
MichaelC: I mean 'quiet.'
sophie: he should see it in his log window if he gets back to his computer
Vance: That's good. Maybe he just wants to be alone.
sophie: By the way guys!....
sophie: I got a surprise for you
Vance: I love surprises
sophie: guess what
MichaelC: So you are organising the CALL conference? Surprise?
sophie: that's not a surprise
Vance: Your cat had kittens?
Gio: I saw the web pages, what about the surprise?
sophie: no it's a he and he's been neutered
MichaelC: Your mother wears army boots?
sophie: try again Michael
Vance: That IS a surprise! You must have been amazed at the kittens.
MichaelC: You're coming to Australia or UAE?
sophie: last chances anyone?
sophie: I'd love to come... any invitations?
MichaelC: Tit for tat.
Vance: You're not really Sophie? You're Sophie's trained orangutang?
MichaelC: LOL
sophie: well, OK I don't want to let you guys loose any longer
Vance: Any guesses, Gio?
sophie: god knows what you can come up with
Gio: I don't know
Vance: We're all waiting to know what the surprise is.
MichaelC: C'mon Sophie - tell all!
sophie: well, I just tried a programme I have and it killed the ads. I haven't been getting any ads since I tried it
MichaelC: Aha!
Gio: very good!
Vance: hey, that's a good one. I've got to try it. It's not ad subtract is it?
sophie: hope I haven't disappointed you. It sounded great but then when you all came up with even greater surprises...
MichaelC: Does it work with all ad programs?
Vance: WHat program was it. I'll install it now and try it on this ad.
Vance: Do you have an horrible ad Gio?
Gio: Yes, I too

Gio: I think I must go
MichaelC: Do we all see the same ad at the same time? Do you see one about Italy now?
Vance: OK Gio. Nice to have met you. If you want to join our list, I think you know how to do it.
MichaelC: OK Gio. Come back next week.
Gio: anyway, the next time, will be next sunday?
MichaelC: Yes - same time; same place.
Gio: my three children are waiting for me
Gio: ciao!
Vance: We've been here every Sunday for the past two years.
Vance: cial
MichaelC: But you look so young!
Vance: ciao, sorry
Vance: I've got two
Gio: yes, I'm but I have three children,
Gio: ciao ciao
MichaelC: I've got three. And look really young too.
Vance: ok, hope to see you again
MichaelC: Bye Gio.
Vance: cool
MichaelC: It is good to be back here again.
Vance: Yeah, it's nice. I like the Palace too.
MichaelC: You don't have to wait your turn to speak!
Vance: How do you make an avatar. I can't remember how.
MichaelC: I never knew. I used to ask Ying Lan.
sophie: I can help you a bit with avatars but guys you have to give me some time with the program
Vance: It's ok. I've done this before. I'm ready with a thumbnail.
Vance: Can you see how to do it?

sophie: talking about laptops I'm having problems with mine
sophie: Americans don't have floppy drieves any more on their IBM thinkpads
sophie: that's giving me a lot of hassle
sophie: Has yours got a floppy?
Vance: How come? Of course!
Vance: In your suitcase, do you have any import features?
sophie: Apparently the new generation of IBM thinkpads does not
sophie: you can have an external one if you want
MichaelC: Sorry - I was away talking with Maggie...
sophie: but I haven't got one yet. I'm not sure if I will
Vance: Can anyone figure out how to import a graphic into the suitcase?
sophie: we are talking about laptops Michael
Vance: We're talking about creating avatars, Michael
MichaelC: Vance - mind if sign up the webheads at at online conference with the same paper at TCC2000? Re graphics - I dunno.
Vance: Sure, no problem
MichaelC: It's at http://flexiblelearning.net.au/nw2000/
sophie: oh, sorry Vance can you ask your question again?
Vance: Yeah, need any copresenters?
Vance: OK, Sophie, I'm trying to figure out how to import a picture into the suitcase. I think that's the key to avatar creation.
sophie: Vance the graphic breaks into pieces, right?
MichaelC: I'll send more details later. I have to run. I'll check out the co-presenter option. I'll leave you two to sirt out avatars.
sophie: you put the pieces into the suitcase one by one
sophie: bye Micheal
MichaelC: Sort out avatars...I have an idea YL used to use MS Paint.
Vance: How do I get a picture from a file into the suitcase. Drag and drop it?
Vance: I mean a file on my computer.
MichaelC: Good night folks.
sophie: what file?
Vance: Michael, leaving already?
sophie: oh, I haven't tried that but look at this
MichaelC: Sorry - usual story. Work to do.
Vance: I'm trying to create an avatar with a picture of me on my computer. I've done it before.
Vance: yada yada michael
MichaelC: (smiles and leaves)
Vance: These avatars are getting to look more and more like you Sophie!
sophie: well, there
sophie: no, no she doesn't look like me
sophie: well, some of the facial features don't
sophie: phone, got to go
Vance: ok, I'm getting this. I'm at http://www.thepalace.com/help/manuals/win95/ver35/Output/use.html#2128
Vance: Next time I'll have my own avatar.

sophie: bye
Vance: ok, and wait a sec. My new avatar in 30 sec
sophie: oh, OK
sophie: GOOD!
Vance: How's that
sophie: Is that you?
Vance: blub blug blub
sophie: haha
Vance: of course bubble bublle
sophie: WoW!!
Vance: Who did you think it was?
sophie: great
Vance: Some trained oragutang?
Vance: OK, you gotta go
sophie: well, someone from website or something
Vance: Next time I'll show you how
sophie: OK I'll be waiting- although I really like my previous avatar
Vance: I do too, k, see you later
sophie: bye

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