Webheads chat logs from September 3, 2000

Meet the people in the chat today


Vance	Maggi	Michael	Ying Lan	John
USA	Germany	Australia	Taiwan	Puerto Rico

and our friends Sophie from Cyprus, and Marina and Paolo, both from Italy

This chat started in Hear Me but ended up mainly at the Palace. Ying Lan was first to arrive, but she didn't feel well (something she ate) so she left after a short while. Sophie came along to the Palace, followed by Gio, who was happy to have found us there after previous attempts to meet with us. Vance explained to Gio what the Webheads class was all about and how it met in three places (weekly online chats, the eclass, and its web pages). In the end Vance re-discovered how to make avatars from photographs, and he's now ready to help others make their own avatars as well.

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Hear Me text chat logs

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Ying: hi,, vance

Ying: Vance probably is busy to find his mic.

Maggi: hello Vance...

John: Hi, Vance, Haven't heard from you fora while

Ying: John can you type which city you live.

John: Moca

Ying: Peurto Rico?

John: My ears are ringing, not crackling

Maggi: Puerto

Ying: John is an American who lives in Moca, Peurto Rico.

Maggi: do you think that Puerto Rico will vote to become a state John?

Ying: He is an English teacher ...

John: I hope so

Vance: ok, continue Ying

Ying: Just want to make sure what I listened.

Vance: what we're talking about, yeah?

John: Vance, your voice is breaking up. I don't know if it's my speakers or your microphone.

Ying: what?

Ying: basic level of EST

Ying: ESL

Vance: Basic writing

Ying: John, your sound is low.

Ying: sorry.

John: Second year ESL Writing

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Vance: http://lightning.prohosting.com/~vstevens/tfw/profiles/johnstee.htm

Ying: How to teach.. give an order and press the botton...then the artice published..

Ying: Where is john?

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Vance: http://lightning.prohosting.com/~vstevens/tfw/profiles/johnstee.htm

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Vance: http://www.eslpalace.net

Vance: let's go there, shall we?

John: I don't have my chat open there at the moment, but if you want to go there...

Ying: But I can not visit the web site ...

Ying: You are the master of eslpalace.net?

Ying: John.

John: Yes, I am.

Vance: This link doesn't work: http://www.geocities.com/jhsteelepr/links.html

John: No, I just removed it during this past revision

Ying: yse

John: I am working on a new set of links to put there

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John: I am doing a complete revision of the page.

Ying: How do you teach "Writing"?

Ying: It is Sunday here.

Vance: Do you do any online teaching?

John: Ying, I teach it in a group setting using a lot of writing in the class.

John: My online teaching is all asynchronous at this moment

Ying: asynchronous?

Ying: I can not find the word in my dictionary.

John: To go back to Ying's question. My classes meet three hours a week in a Computer classroom. Asynchronous means we are not on the computer at the same time.

Vance: synchronous means at the same time

Vance: asynchronous, not

Ying: They can not find something inside themselve by surfing internet

Ying: I think "Writing" is an other way to find myself inside. .. my thought.

John: No, only what is outside themselves. It does give them a chance to see other points of view.

Ying: Reading and Writing are synonymous... your point?

John: You learn to write by reading (and also writing about what your read).

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Ying: More I read, more I write..... that what you want to say,.

John: That is what I mean.

Vance: I think reading and writing are both ways to search inside yourself.

Maggi: Hi..

Vance: http://www.eslpalace.net

John: A lot of my course is on Blackboard.com

Ying: sophie is in our palace classroom now.

John: I have the following domains...eslpalace.net, eslpalace.com, jhsteele.com

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Ying: locate?

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John: Location (locate) means where you are. How is the weather (Ying and Paolo)?

Ying: Vance .. sophie asked "Did Vance show people how to get their own avatars?"?

Ying: It is summer... here.

Ying: Big sun and hot

Ying: It is hot here.

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John: It is the end of summer here.

Ying: Hi, marina

Ying: It is comfortable in Moca?

Marina: Hi everybody

Ying: Very bored?

Vance: very boring

John: Usually, It is nice here. This summer it has been hot, though.

John: I was raised in a more temperate climate. There were four distinct seasons. Here in Puerto Rico there is only one season, with temperature varying from 75-80 up to 90-95.

Paolo: Marina, where r u from?

Ying: Italy

Marina: I'm sorry,I'm trying to set something on my computer.

Marina: I'm from Rome, Italy

Ying: Marina lives in Italy.. Ying lives in Taiwan.

Ying: John.. how long have your students finshed writing course?

Ying: John's voice is too low to me.

John: My students have to take writing for 1 year.

Ying: After 1 year, they can write anything they want to write.

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Ying: Bye-bye to Paolo

Marina: Bye Paolo

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John: Sorry, I lost my connection for a minute.

John: Ying, you were asking about my students. They have to take 12 years if English before they get to my class.

Ying: Reading English is not an obstacle for your students.

John: No, but speaking is an obstacle for them.

Ying: Like here. most of students in here.

Marina: Many kisses Mad

John: If you mean in this group, my students are much worse. It seems to be tied to politics.

Ying: politics?

John: Yes. As I said when we were talking before Maggi joined, Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States. People who don't want this, generally don't like to learn English.

Ying: Speaking is an obstacle for students in Taiwan.

Ying: People don't want to be a part of USA?

John: My classmates from Taiwan (a few years ago) didn't seem to have much trouble.

Ying: You know... they have to pass TOEFL before they go to USA..

John: Some of them do not want to be part of the USA. Others want to be a state. Still others like it the way it is (but think English would make them become a state).

Ying: But most of students do not got high score in TOEFL.

John: They do not take the TOEFL.

Ying: Really?

John: Really. They take something called the English Placement Test for Hispanics.

Ying: hispanics

John: Spanish Americans

John: Also, most students study in Puerto Rico.

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John: I said. He must be an OLD teacher, then.

Vance: He said Michael was an 'old geezer'

Vance: oh, teacher

John: geezer would work, too.

Ying: geezer is bad word to describe people..

Ying: Or it is only a joke.

Ying: geezer is only to describe somebody is olsd?

John: I said that I never know what handsome means. I tell my daughters someone is handsome, they say he is not. I tell them someone is not handome, my daughters say yes he is.

Ying: old

John: That picture on my web page is not that recent.

Ying: You looks old than the pic what you put on your web site...kidding

John: Oh, I AM old. In fact, I'm a two time grandfather.

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Ying: Grandfather...

John: Yes. Two of my daughters have children.

Ying: How's life treating you?

Ying: It is sweet to be "Grandfather"..

John: It is WONDERFUL to be a grandfather.

Ying: Both of you John and Michaelc teach "Writing."

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Ying: just cut down and paste

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John: I seem to be having trouble with my connection.

John: Michael, I lost your voice at one time there. I think you were asking me something?

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John: Welcome back, Ying. Did you lose your connection, too?

Ying: Yes, I did,.

Ying: But I just come back to say bye-bye

Michael: pinny?

Ying: tinnie

Michael: Yothu Yindi?

Michael: Didjeridu?

Michael: Or didgeridoo.

Ying: yes... I am getting tired.

Michael: It's a drone sound.

Michael: A didgeridoo makes the sound of the earth.

Ying: o.k.

Ying: I have to go now.

Ying: see you next week.

John: I seem to have lost my hearing mode. (I see it saying that people are talking, but I can't here more than two or three words).

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Ying: More you read, more you write...

John: Good bye.

John: I thing I have to go now, too. I hope to see you all again next week.

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Michael: Bye John.

Marina: Good bye John, nice to meet you !

John: Bye-Bye

John: I'll try to be in both places next week.

Maggi: bye

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Vance: ctrl-C to copy, ctrl-V to paste

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The Palace - Avatar-based text chat logs

*** Welcome to The Palace Portal!

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Vance: ^@67,152 It pays to click here.

*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

sophie: Hi Vance

Vance: Hi. Ying Lan told me you were here.

sophie: yeah, just dropped in to say hi

Mad: I'm another teacher

Vance: Oh, I'm on my office machine and can't produce my avatar, unless I copy it.

sophie: I'm leaving in a while...

sophie: Did you do it on your laptop then?

Mad: Nice to see you

sophie: the avatar, I mean

Vance: Yeah, Marina is at HearMe as well. Yeah, I did it on my laptop.

Vance: If you have a picture you can make an avatar too.

sophie: no, thanks I prefer the other ones

sophie: Nice to see you too Mad

sophie: I'm going to the beach today!!!!

sophie: Yippeee!!!

Mad: :-((

Vance: Do you remember MAD from Barcelona? Hey, cool. But is that unusual in Cyprus?

Mad: it's cold here

sophie: No, but it is unusual for me....

Vance: Ah, you're in Nicosia ...

Vance: How far to the beach

sophie: No, Nicosia people go to the beach all the time - it only takes 40 minutes

Vance: OK, I've got to copy in my avatars with Ying Lan doing it.

sophie: it's just I have been too busy to go to the beach

Vance: Where do you suppose they are stored?

sophie: in the suitcase, right?

sophie: Mad we met in barcelona?

Vance: I mean, in the computer's file structure?

Mad: yes we did

sophie: what's your real name then?

Vance: I'm looking now (always something)

Mad: where are all these ads coming from?

Mad: Maggi

sophie: oh, it is a way the Palace has introduced to make money - not very nice I know

sophie: oh, did we play with the Palace for a while in barcelona?

MichaelC: @64,64 !It's MichaelC

Mad: isn't there a way tp turn them off?

MichaelC: )APPLAUSE

sophie: Hi Michael

Mad: hi...

sophie: your parrots are already here

MichaelC: Hi there everyone!

Vance: I'm looking for the boo

Mad: who are you clapping for?

MichaelC: Who's been playing with my parrots?

sophie: not me

Mad: you always leave them around...

sophie: Mad, do you live in Germany?

sophie: I'm not sure..

Mad: yes I do

MichaelC: Yeh - I probably left them here last time.

Mad: probably?

sophie: oh, OK then I remember correctly

MichaelC: OK - definitely!

sophie: How have you been?

Mad: no one else leaves them around

sophie: I have to go to work tomorrow....

sophie: I'm absolutely depressed

Mad: w3hy?

Vance: I'm at work today

sophie: well, I've officially been on holiday for a couple of months and I got used to it

sophie: before that I was studying anyway so I haven't been to school/work for a loong time

MichaelC: You look very sad Sophie. Oh I see - back to work after hols. Always hard!

Mad: you'll get used to it again

Ying-Lan: I drag your parrots..

sophie: that's how I feel Micheal

sophie: i wish I had the money to go on studying full time for this year, too

MichaelC: That's OK Ying. You can play with my parrots any time!

Mad: like a parrot being dragged Sophie?

sophie: worse, Mad

Vance: Michael, where do you think avatars you store in your suitcase are on your comptuer. I'm looking all over.

MichaelC: I don't know Vance - I used to. I'll have a hunt.....

marina: @64,64 !It's marina

Mad: that is a good question...I would like to know too

MichaelC: Hi Marina!

Vance: Hi Marina

sophie: shouldn't they be in the Palace files somewhere?

Mad: Hi Marina

marina: hi!

sophie: Hi Marina

marina: Nice to see you again

sophie: anyway guys I have enjoyed seeing everyone but I got to go now

sophie: will see you again really soon

Mad: !bye Sophie

sophie: bye

Mad: ^have a nice day

Vance: leaving already, awww

Mad: )BOOM

Vance: I'm looking all over for my avatars on my laptop. That's a nice one marina!

Mad: )KISS

MichaelC: Vance - I found the avatar that I'm using right now in ThePalace/media/palaceportal/pictures

Ying-Lan: Who kiss me?

Mad: just seeing if it works

marina: I made this avatar a few days ago

Vance: I'm looking carefully in there and I can't find it. Cool Marina.

MichaelC: But maybe that's a default .gif - not an avatar.....

marina: In fact I didn't draw it, I just put together different pieces I found in different places

MichaelC: No that's not it...sorry.

Vance: This is nuts. You're very good at it Marina. How did you do it?

marina: I just dropped in certain palaces and I save the pieces

Vance: To make a picture avatar you need a picture 44 pixels by 44 pixels.

MichaelC: But if marina knows what she called this avatar she could search her c drive for it by using find....

Vance: I 'may/ have found it. palace.prp. I'll copy it over.

MichaelC: I'll have a look for this too....

Mad: well...mc...no problems with the Palace?

MichaelC: No Maggie. I did nothin. Just waited a few months and everything's back to normal!

Mad: that's the way

MichaelC: I think the Palace people were aware of the fact that several people were having the same problem as I did and they've fixed the bug.

Vance: We're talking about you in hearme, Michael

Mad: the ads are the pits

MichaelC: Then I'd better go and have a listen!

Mad: you don't want to hear it

MichaelC: Mmmm...what have i done?

Mad: nothing...

Mad: that's just it...lol

Vance: I think I'm going to have to exit to load in the new props.

Vance: see you in a minute.

MichaelC: Ho ho ho! Vance - I also found a .prp file

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*** Welcome to The Virtual School House Vance!

Vance: @64,64 !It's Vance

marina: That' nice!

Ying-Lan: Vance ... you got your new avator.

Vance: ok, I did it!

Vance: )APPLAUSE

marina: I would like to to that!

Vance: To do this you need a picture. You make it square and reduce it to 44 x 44 pixels

Vance: Then you copy it and paste it to your suitcase. It's easy.

Vance: How's this?

marina: Yes, I need a scanner.That's why I didn't send any picture yet

Vance: Ying Lan made one long ago. But yours is two frames, right YL?

Ying-Lan: two frame?

Vance: This one is one frame. If I move it ...

Vance: When you move, what happens?

Vance: I've got to figure out how to make a bigger avatar

Vance: I think Michael is doing it.

Vance: There's michael!

MichaelC: Anyone recognise this man?

Mad: I think I will try to get mine from the other computer

marina: Vance, I would like to do a moving avatar. Do I need an animated gif?

Vance: I'm not sure. The Palace has a help page.

Mad: no...I had some

Vance: Try quick reference on User Guide

Vance: or ...

Mad: maybe I'll just get new ones

Vance: Maybe I can make one for you MAD

MichaelC: This avatar is Eddie Mabo.

Vance: Now we all have avatars. Cool, huh? The Palace is fun.

Mad: @64,64 !It's Mad

Mad: sorry...went to the directory and got kicked off hearme

marina: Hi, Mad.I think I'm leaving for now

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