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Webheads chat logs from August 24, 2003

Tapped In

2003.08.24 05:08:26 Login

Room: TI_Reception

ClaireB joined the room.
ChristophJ: Hi Claire!
ClaireB: hi guys
MargaretD: Hi Claire
ClaireB hugs margaret and aiden
AidenY: my son's asking for milk, i'll be back
ClaireB: so where is vance?
AidenY: hello claire
AidenY: i'll be back in a flash
ClaireB: give that kid some milk!
MargaretD: Things will start going fast now Hamza.
ChristophJ: OK Aiden
ChristophJ: Hamza, are you a teacher?
MargaretD: No, a student Chris.
JahidoS: no .. only astudent
ChristophJ: What are you studying?
JahidoS: im looking forward to improve my english
ClaireB: Jahido, is your name Hamza?
JahidoS: yes
ChristophJ: Great, so far your English looks really good
AidenY: i'm back
MargaretD: in the right box that says actions go down to detach and you will have a bigger window.
ChristophJ: That was fast, Aiden
ClaireB: wow aiden, that was quick!
AidenY: hamza, are you a webheads member?
JahidoS: yes
JahidoS: is there any voice chat or anly text chat?
AidenY: yeah, I gave him fresh milk, thank God, he no longer asks for powedered milk
MargaretD: here only text
ChristophJ: text only here
JahidoS: ic
ChristophJ: Voice chat is pretty hard with more than 4 people, I find
AidenY: maybe later, when vance arrives
MargaretD: but there are other places for voice chat
ClaireB: hmm but is vance coming today?
AidenY: have you tried wimba, hamza?
JahidoS: yes
ClaireB: last week he was heading for california
JahidoS: no
AidenY: i'm not sure if he is
SusanneN joined the room.
ClaireB hugs suzanne
JahidoS: i have not.. what is wimba?
MargaretD: Hi Sus
ChristophJ: Hi Sus!
ClaireB: hi sus
AidenY: that's a good tool for voice chats, hamza
ChristophJ: Wimba is a voice chat room
ChristophJ: it's really good
MargaretD: Wimba is a voice chat
JahidoS: good
AidenY: hello sus, (I didn't see you arrive)
ChristophJ: no Vance sighting on Yahoo
ChristophJ: He is not there
SusanneN hugs Chris, Claire, Aiden, Maggi & Corinne and waves hello to Jahido
MargaretD: Jahido is from Jordan.
AidenY: can we share files here, in T12
JahidoS: regarding to what i have understand from webheads.. its a meeting between students and teachers to learn english :)
ClaireB: jahido, which city are you from in Jordan?
AidenY: yes, you're right, hamza
SusanneN: Hamza, is that Jahido's cover name?
ChristophJ: At the moment, Hamza, you are stuck with the teachers :-)
SusanneN -)
JahidoS: amman
JahidoS: the capital
MargaretD: his first name
ClaireB: Ah
ClaireB: This summer Ihad an intern from Irbid
AidenY: i think you're doing pretty well, hamza
DafneG joined the room.
ChristophJ: I've seen pictures of Amman, a beautiful city in the mountains
ClaireB: yes, you are doing well
AidenY: hello Daf
ClaireB hugs dafne
JahidoS: im glad to be here between you all
DafneG: hi there everybody
JahidoS: and hello sus
ClaireB: hi daf
ChristophJ: Hi Daf!
SusanneN tries hard to pass for a student - I'm from Denmark, Hamza, near Copenhagen
AidenY: we're glad you're here
DafneG hugs and kisses everybody on both cheeks
SusanneN hugs Daf!!!
ClaireB: long time no see, daf
ChristophJ: I live in Germany, Hamza, near the Rhine River and the French border
DafneG: yes, been out of town for a while
SusanneN: you sure have, Daf!
SusanneN: we missed you here on our Sunday sessions
DafneG: I have missed you all , too
MargaretD: Hamza is studying programming.
DafneG: interesting!
ClaireB: perhaps vance is enroute to abu dhabi again
AidenY: what year are you in, hamza?
SusanneN: Programmers and online educators unite!
JahidoS: yes sus i know about copengagen the capital of denmark.. and the rhine river christ
JahidoS: 3rd
AidenY: Is programming a 4-year course in Jordan, hamza?
AidenY: yes, sus, what a combination
DafneG: Christopher, how is your diss going?
SusanneN: Great, Hamza - It helps feeling less "foreign" to know just a little about where we all live and what we do
JahidoS: i hope you will pardon me if i am slow aliitle bil.. because its quite hard for me to read and answer all of you :):)
ChristophJ: Daf, I'm drowning in data at the moment
JahidoS: yes 4 years
DafneG: same here, Chris
AidenY: that's alright, hamza, we understand
ChristophJ: Sus, Rif, and Elizabeth are helping me with the reliability
MargaretD left the room (signed off).
MargaretD joined the room.
ChristophJ: I'm doing a prelim summary to get my head straight
AidenY: when are you supposed to hand it over, chris?
ChristophJ: and .... I'm really sick of the whole process
DafneG: me too
ChristophJ: Aiden, the sooner the better
SusanneN: what I meant with that parole is that all kind of programmers need to learn more about the end users - what we need, what we dream of, and what makes the online teaching and learning efoorts a challenge as well as a stiumlating creative impulse for innovations
DafneG: I just want to finish with it asap
ChristophJ: same here, Daf
AidenY: ...can imagine that, chris
ChristophJ: You are now a doctoral student with us, aren't you, Aiden?
AidenY: well said, sus, i hope I can achieve that this coming school year
JahidoS: my father is adirect english translator for 30 years he is perfect in english.. he is edditing english books.... and i hope to be like him
ChristophJ: Hamza, your English is really good
AidenY: your english is great, hamza
JahidoS: we r studing in english
SusanneN: that's a great goal for you to have
ClaireB: yes, very good
MargaretD: -I wish you lots of luck but you have a good role mo0del.
AidenY: i agree with maggi, hamza
DafneG: me too
ChristophJ: Someday, I would like to learn Arabic. Vance is fluent in Arabic, I believe
SusanneN: what kind of books does your father edit Hanza?
MargaretD: not fluent yet Chris
DafneG: I am learning Dutch
JahidoS: scientific ones
ClaireB: wow daf, why dutch?
AidenY: he is? wow, what about you, chris? are you fluent in German?
ChristophJ: I am learning Scottish (Glaswegian) :-)
AidenY: it's special language, dutch is difficult to learn
DafneG: Why not, Claire?
ChristophJ: Ja ich kann Deutsch fliesend sprechen
AidenY: i won't ask why, chris
DafneG: lol
AidenY: i understood that, chris
MargaretD: I can understand Dutch
ChristophJ: I can understand Dutch on a good day
MargaretD: read it too
JahidoS: i headed to the british council week ago to have an english course, but it was expensive
SusanneN: that's fun to learn how some people are always striving to learn more languages
JahidoS: 200 us $ for each course
SusanneN: for how many lessons, Hamza?
DafneG: I am starting to descriminate some words from conversations
MargaretD: that would be cheap here Hamza.
JahidoS: for 1 month
SusanneN: a full month?
JahidoS: yes
SusanneN: I mean, with classes avery day?
MargaretD: oh, that's different
AidenY: wow, maggi, you're a linguist, how many languages can you speak?
ClaireB: we KNOW why chris is learning scottish lol
ChristophJ: is nae bad
DafneG: we sure do,Claire :-)
JahidoS: i have an exam there and i got the upper intermediate call in english
MargaretD: I get by in about 7 or 8 Aiden
AidenY: whew! that's impressive, maggi
DafneG: wow, Maggi, that is great
ChristophJ bows respectively to Maggi
JahidoS: upper intermediate class in english
CorinneW: Hi Dafne
DafneG: hello Corinne
SusanneN starts to count on her fingers
MargaretD: it's mostly from living in different counts
JahidoS: i think its 3 days in the week only sus
ChristophJ speaks English, French, German, street Spanish from LA, surfer talk, Badisch (local German dialect)
DafneG: BC classes are expensive all over
SusanneN: is thiws a course you really need to get on with your career, Hamza?
AidenY: how long are the sessions, hamza?
JahidoS: no its not important, only i love english and hope to improve my language
SusanneN understands
JahidoS: i think 2 hours three times aweek
ChristophJ: Hamza, this is off the top of my head, but it seems like specialized language (computing, business, etc.) is what you would need. You look very fluent in English here in the chat room
DafneG agrees with Chris
AidenY: are your classes offered in English? what's the medium of communication in your programming classes?
MargaretD left the room (signed off).
MargaretD joined the room.
JahidoS: i wanted to get the general english course
DafneG . o O ( that was fast, Maggi )
SusanneN: I've been studying by practising online with peer colleagues for the last four years by now - adn I admit that for some time, I even think in English very often, espeically when it is related to my online studies
CorinneW: Aiden, that is a slightly confusing question - could mean medium language level
AidenY: i think you would pass the gen. english course with flying colors, hamza
MargaretD: it happened yesterday, too, Daf.
JahidoS: and regarding my english i can understand listen more than speaking :)
SusanneN: but this will not reward me with any degree
AidenY: language of instruction, I mean
DafneG: I think Aiden meant the medium (the language) in which the classes are delivered
AidenY: is that why you're very interested in voice chats, hamza?
SusanneN: lol
JahidoS: yes
JahidoS ):)
JahidoS: you are cliver
CorinneW: Ahhh, well Jahido, it sounds like you need to just loose the inhibitions to speak, voice chats like Aiden suggested or a virtual classroom would be good for you
SusanneN: That was my urge to find out how to get involved with the voice chat tools - I simply needed to hear others talk, and myself as well.
JahidoS: yes
JahidoS: quite good
AidenY: Sus, hamza hasn't tried using wimba
JahidoS: i c
MargaretD: yes, and understanding always comes first because it is passive learning
AidenY: we told hamza that it's a great voice chat environment
DafneG: Wimba is great
SusanneN: I did not have much real life practise in oral English
DafneG: it does not show, Sus
AidenY: now you do, sus
SusanneN: but after a few sessions, I think I was doing pretty well, and forgot even to think of it as anything special
JahidoS: so how to participate in wimba? is it in your wonderful website?
MargaretD: you can try www.strudy.com Hamza
MichaelAC joined the room.
AidenY: hello michael
MichaelAC: Hi everyone
DafneG: hi Michael
ChristophJ: Sus, just sent an e-mail to the researchers
MargaretD: I think David uses Chatterbox.
MargaretD: Hi mc
AidenY: did anyone answer my question regarding sharing of files here in T12
ChristophJ: Hi Michael! Long time
SusanneN: hi Michael! This is another voice chat specialist, meet Hamza from Amman, Michael
MichaelAC: Yes Chris - what have YOU been doing??
DafneG: I did not read that message, Aiden
AidenY: right, Michael is the man of voice chats
JahidoS: hi mike
MargaretD: no Aiden, but yes you can
SusanneN: Aide, regarding file sharing, yes,m you can create files and share them inside here
ChristophJ: Well, Michael, the stock answer is working on my diss. The real answer..... falling in love
MichaelAC: Hello Hamza - what is your username Hamza?
SusanneN: chech the ME tab
MichaelAC: How sweet Chris!
AidenY: what
DafneG . o O ( how romantic! )
CorinneW: I think that website was wrong, do you mean www.study.com?
JahidoS: jahidos
AidenY: what's ME?
MichaelAC: OK Hamza - got it!
ChristophJ: actually, both
MargaretD: yes
DafneG: You can share the files in your office, Aiden
SusanneN: Aiden, when I enter the Reception, I see this message: Hi
SusanneN! From the Me tab above, you can access your groups, read saved messages, edit your buddies, change your personal settings and more.
ChristophJ is getting a fresh cup o'tea
AidenY: but my office was created in T! Daf, can I still use it here?
SusanneN: ME is your personal space in here
MichaelAC: Hamza - have you been using voice chat?
JahidoS: this is a great website.. great community and wonderful peaple indeed
DafneG: you need to start another office here, Aiden
SusanneN: oh no, all old offices are demolished by the end of September
JahidoS: no not yet
AidenY: Oh, yes, I see it, Sus
MichaelAC: OK I see
SusanneN: I think also from the ME view you will be able to open a new office easily
ChristophJ: Oh, that's good to know. I have an office, too
ChristophJ: nothing is in it
AidenY: you're not alone, chris
CorinneW: It is loads easier to open an office here than in the old version, especially for someone not very technical like myself
SusanneN: we could make a round of offices - Daf has one good example I know
AidenY: it's virtually an abandoned classroom
SusanneN: yes, an empty classroom to arrange as you like it
DafneG: I have not been in my office for a long time now
ChristophJ: ....you all are talking about TI, right (with the demoed offices)
ChristophJ: ?
AidenY: it used be my virtual classroom, where my students met
SusanneN: maybe there's a lot of spider's web around, Daf?
DafneG: right Sus
MichaelAC: We seem to be happier in public spaces!
CorinneW: Yeah I did the same thing and then I set up a group for the same reason
DafneG: but if you go there, you can dust a little bit for me
MichaelAC: Milling around in reception areas!
SusanneN: the background programming running here in Tapped In , version 2 , is pretty different from the old
AidenY: I might be creating another office here for the project/s that I intend to do this SY
ChristophJ is milling around the reception area#
SusanneN: I think each of us can have only one office here
MargaretD left the room (signed off).
MargaretD joined the room.
SusanneN: aiden, yes, you will need another office for your new porject!
DafneG: Michael, this article might be interesting for you:
http://llt.msu.edu/vol7num2/odowd/default.html
SusanneN: SY, is that school year?
AidenY: i'd like to upload the file that I sent to daf about my projects
SusanneN: you will have to create your office first and then upload the file...
MargaretD: I have a pile of classrooms at Nicenet
DafneG: UNDERSTANDING THE "OTHER SIDE": INTERCULTURAL LEARNING IN A SPANISH-ENGLISH E-MAIL EXCHANGE
AidenY: i feel comfortable sharing it with you (people who are here right now)
ChristophJ is glancing at this conversation sporadicaally while working
SusanneN: your file space is pretty limited
SusanneN: but of course you can upload it anywhere and share the URL
AidenY: thanks, sus
DafneG: that is the best way, sharing through web pages
AidenY: if I click on the 'me' tab, will i get booted out?
SusanneN: I don't think so
DafneG: no, Aiden, I don't thingk so
SusanneN: you should certainly not
AidenY: you're right
MargaretD: you never know
AidenY: i didn't
SusanneN: you should be able to work in the ME space still staying
with us until you move to another place
DafneG: good
SusanneN: but sometimes people seem to leave and return unexpectedly
AidenY: am creating my office now, ooppps,
CorinneW left the room (signed off).
AidenY: oh no]
MichaelAC: what??
AidenY: it says, I already have an office
DafneG: that is the astral body
SusanneN: the n go three and have a look :-))
ChristophJ: maybe you have to delete your old office first, Aiden
DafneG: Michael did you see the url I gave you?
ChristophJ: who knows?
AidenY left the room.
MargaretD: -
MichaelAC: Yes Daf - I'm looking at it now. Very useful for the discussion I'm hosting this week. Thank you
JahidoS: the website did not opened
DafneG: I am glad it is helpful
MargaretD: which one Hamza?
JahidoS: http://www.study.com/
MargaretD: ic
DafneG: Can you tell me about the discusion, Michael?
AidenY joined the room.
DafneG: how is your office, Aiden?
MichaelAC: Well it has 2 parts to it Daf.
DafneG listens to Michael
AidenY: ooppss, sorry i didn't know that I'll be transferred to my office
MargaretD left the room (signed off).
MargaretD joined the room.
MichaelAC: Part 1 is about general online facilitation and how to improve skills in that area.
AidenY: i didn't know and after I've posted a few sentences, i realized I was talking to myself?
JiangB joined the room.
DafneG: lol to Aiden
SusanneN: so you DO have an office already Aiden
ChristophJ: Hi Jiang!
MichaelAC: Part 2 is about encouraging eleaners from diverse cult and lingusiticc backgrounds
JiangB: hi
DafneG: where is it taking place, Michael?
SusanneN: Hello Jiang, alias Warren :-)
AidenY: yes, sus
JiangB: thx
MichaelAC: So part 2 is v similar ot the presentation we ran last year.
SusanneN: meet the Webheads in Action :-)
DafneG: hi Jiang
AidenY: it's quite fancy, i've got a laptop, a nice swivel chair and a plant which doesn't look like it needs watering cuz it's still green
JiangB: hi danfneg
SusanneN: are you a teacher, Jiang?
AidenY: hello jiang
JiangB: no i am a student now
JiangB: hello everyone
MichaelAC: At the moment the discussion is in a private discussion soace of a project team but I'm going to see if I can get some extra log ins for Webheads who are interested.
AidenY: Michael, are you talking about your session this coming week?
SusanneN: do you study edication?
JiangB: maybe many years later i will be a teacher
MichaelAC: Yes Aiden. And thank you for your reply to my call for help!
DafneG: if you can get me it, I would appreciate it, Michael
SusanneN: I see
DafneG: in
JiangB: what is your major?
MichaelAC: OK Daf. I'll see. Michael Marzio woulkd like to join in too.
MargaretD: you can try Dave's ESL Cafe Hamza.
DafneG: thanks
AidenY: micahel, is it about distance learning? or can it be applied to that?
MargaretD: he has voice chats, too
JahidoS: where is that maggi
JiangB: may i know your major susannen?

# Tappedin transcript for VanceS, 2003.08.24 06:57:50
2003.08.24 05:50:50 Login
Room: TI_Reception
VanceS joined the room.
SusanneN: Michael, if I knew more about the hours, I might be interested to join as well, but this week has been so busy with several exams
VanceS: hlo all
AidenY: hello vance
DafneG kisses Vance on both cheecks
MichaelAC: I'm not exactly sure Auiden but I am assuming that the context is more distance learning.
ChristophJ: Hi Vance!
VanceS: hi Daf, how nice to see you here again
SusanneN: Jiang, I'm studying education theory related to online learning and teaching
SusanneN hugs Vance
MichaelAC: I will find out more tommorrow when I meet the project team
VanceS: What project team?
MargaretD: www.Daveseslcafe.com I think
ClaireB: hi vance
AidenY: then what I wrote then is a valid topic to talk about, I mean you can use it
DafneG: yes, I emerged from the deep waters of the mediterranean ocean
JahidoS: it seems like im in a marathon to read all of this :)
DafneG: sea, I mean
JiangB: i thinink i shuold go now see you next time good luck and best wishes!!
ClaireB: bye jiang
MichaelAC: And hi from me Vance. Where are you?
AidenY: bye jiang
SusanneN: well, thank you for joining us Jiang
DafneG: bye, Jian drop by again
MargaretD: bye Jiang
JiangB left the room.
MichaelAC: It's a bit overwhelming at first Hamza
AidenY: that's how my students felt at first, hamza
DafneG: Vance are you in CA?
JahidoS: but im pleased to be here indeed
VanceS: yes I am
DafneG: nice to hear that, Hamza
AidenY: we're pleased to have you here, hamza
SusanneN: Hamza wish to practise voice chat - we might arrange one soon
VanceS: Jahido, are you Hamza?
ChristophJ: Where in CA, Vance, San Francisco?
JahidoS: yes i am
VanceS: I have your picture and will post it on our pages on return to Abu Dhabi
DafneG: Are you going back to Abu D., Vance?
ChristophJ: Hamza's English is excellent
DafneG: I see
VanceS: I'm in Lake San Marcos just north of San Diego
JahidoS: u mean my picture?
VanceS: Yes, I believe so
VanceS: went surfing at Carlsbad yesterday if that helps, ten min from here
DafneG: a lake, that sounds so refreshing!
ChristophJ: Have some Brown Cow yogurt for me (the best in the world - coffee and maple)
JahidoS: not excellent it is 50% :)
ChristophJ wishes he could splash in the cool Pacific right now - homesick
DafneG: on which scale, Hamza ;-)
VanceS: it wasn't bad, warmer than san francisco area
AidenY: think of scotland, chris
VanceS: what are you guys talkng about?
DafneG: It is so hot in here
MargaretD left the room (signed off).
MargaretD joined the room.
ChristophJ: I do that about once every 10 minutes, Aiden :-)
MichaelAC: Chris J - Homesick lovesick dissertation sick
DafneG: lol
JahidoS: i have a classification exam at the british council and get the upper intermediate level
VanceS: and how late am I? is it noon gmt now?
ChristophJ is plain sick
AidenY: lol, michael
DafneG: you can communicate quite well, hamza, that's what's important
MichaelAC )
AidenY: you're an hour late
DafneG: shame on Vance ;-)
AidenY: i am about to watch stephen king's Rose Red on Cinemax
SusanneN: Oh, I was a very sad film from Scotland yesterday, about lost youth criminals. There seem to be serious social problems related to unemployment and kids getting kicked out from school in great numbers
MichaelAC: Cinemax?
DafneG: I used to live Stephen King's books
VanceS: really? ahhh, I see, yes, it's six a.m. here ... I thought it was five
ChristophJ: Shame on you, Vance, spleeping in to 5 a.m.
DafneG: love
SusanneN: it is a Ken Loach movie, called Sweet Sixteen
ClaireB: wow vance it's eaaaaarrrrrllly out there
JahidoS: as i told u i can understant what i hear or read very well .. but im too weak in speaking
SusanneN: poor sleepy Vance, you really missed us, did you?
ChristophJ: That's enough to make him go back to bed
VanceS: I have to get my son up in an hour anyway
AidenY: i loved the first part, tonight's it's the 2nd and 3rd part, am l;ooking forward tow atching it
VanceS: we have to go to LAX
ClaireB: so has he already registered, vance?
SusanneN: what's LAX?
AidenY: when vance?
MichaelAC: and then to?
ClaireB: los angeles airport
VanceS: registration is online these days
SusanneN: oh
DafneG: wow, so many questions
ClaireB: oh, of course, lol
DafneG: how convenient
JahidoS: what is the time there? its 4:00 pm here
SusanneN: where are you heading for?
VanceS: yeah, he's going to Houston and I to rejoin my dear wife in Abu Dhabi
DafneG: it is 3pm here in Spain, Hamza
ChristophJ: 3 p.m. in Germany (and Denmark)
MichaelAC: 10.30 pm in Adelaide, Australia
VanceS: where are you Hamza?
ClaireB: glenn or dusty?
AidenY: it's 9:04 pm here in Taiwan
ClaireB: 9 am in pittsburgh
VanceS: Glenn is in Bolivia at the moment
JahidoS: im in jordan, middle east
ClaireB: such a peripatetic family
MichaelAC: Amazing isn't it.
VanceS: Dusty is going to college in Irvine next year and will have to hang out in Houston or Michigan for the next month till school starts
ChristophJ has no idea of what Claire is talking about
SusanneN looks up peripathetic, never saw that before
MichaelAC: LOL
VanceS: Claire has asked about my two kids
MichaelAC: Good one Sus
ChristophJ: Dusty = Vance's son, got it
JahidoS: it seems lime trans oceans family
ClaireB: = constantly travelling
VanceS: Paripatetic means tending to move about
AidenY: Rose Red is on cinemax, now
ClaireB: peripatetic, not pathetic lol
SusanneN: today's new word!
DafneG: what spelling can do to meanings!
VanceS: well, can someone send me a log of the chat the hour I missed?
SusanneN: what is cinemax?
ChristophJ: Going to Scotland in Oct. and Dec. She's coming here (again) on Sept. 5 for 2 days.
AidenY: it's a cable channel, sus
ClaireB: ok vance, i can
VanceS: just in case I ever get around to posting logs ... hehhehe
SusanneN: aha, I'm not on cable myself
DafneG: great, Chris
AidenY: and they're now showing stephen kind's rose red
AidenY: scarryyyyy
VanceS: Chris has a thing going
ChristophJ: Cinemax is a multi-theatre c inema
ChristophJ: yep, it's really going
SusanneN: Chris has got a very Scottish connection
DafneG: a romantic thing, Vance
VanceS: that's great, congratulations
MichaelAC: Oh that thing
ChristophJ: thanks folks
ClaireB: chris, then week after next you can give us a report
VanceS: yeah, nice when those things happen
SusanneN: do you still use longish phone calls to stay in touch, Chris?
ClaireB: we want all the details lol
MichaelAC: (I didn't mean that to sound disparaging Chris!)
ChristophJ: 3 hours yesteday, and an hour this morning
DafneG: you should put a page on your romantic story, Chris
AidenY: 3 hours!!!!
ChristophJ: no prob, Michael
SusanneN: gee
VanceS: on the phone?
ChristophJ: on the phone (3 hours)
AidenY: i used to do that when I was in college!!!
VanceS: what's wrong with instant messagers?
AidenY: or.. yahoo messenger?
VanceS: or Elluminate or something like that
ChristophJ: ...when the phone call is 2 cents a minute...
AidenY: wimba???
VanceS: oh, well ...
AidenY: lol
ChristophJ: I can get 2 cents a min. here
VanceS: so why don't we move webheads over to the phone lines?
ChristophJ: pretty cool
SusanneN: Of Daf! would you ever do so yourself if you were in a similar situation? lol
MichaelAC: Yes - let's all stop using the phone!
ClaireB: that is fairly cheap
MichaelAC: Actually V - that's a great idea
JahidoS: its too expensive hereeeeeeeeeeeeeee
AidenY: even then 2 cents, that's a lot, multiply it to the lneght of time you spent on a call
ChristophJ: cheaper than a lot of local calls
JahidoS: 1.5 us $ for each minute
VanceS: yeah, I live in Abu Dhabi, fairly expensive there
ClaireB: wow
ChristophJ: that is expense, Hamza
JahidoS: yes it is :)
MichaelAC: Net and phone bridging will get cheaper. then we can try it
SusanneN: the cheap phone cards are a true relief when you need to stay in touch, the classic voicewise
VanceS: something like that in Abu Dhabi, I hardly ever use the phone long distance
DafneG: yes, Sus, phone cards are great
ChristophJ: I got 2.5 cents to the US last week
AidenY: yeah, i use text messaging, SMS
SusanneN: but maybe they're not sold all over the world?
ChristophJ: SMS, too, Aiden
ChristophJ: use that
AidenY: have you tried, MMS? sending photos and short videos, chris
DafneG: SMS is also a good alternative for short messages
ChristophJ: no I haven't, Aiden, is it worh trying?
AidenY: that's how my dad gets in touch with me
SusanneN: aiden, I met a teacher from Iceland who is propagating phone blogging
DafneG: I hate writing with those tiny keys
MichaelAC: Wow - what a cool Dad
ChristophJ is impressed with Aiden's modern dad
AidenY: he's cool and he's definitely "IN"
ClaireB: somewhere there is a service where you can phone in an audio message that will show up as an audio blog on your website
AidenY: and he's good in typing on those tiny keys
ChristophJ: I got my mom on Instant messenger, but I had to travel to the US to install it for her
SusanneN: my dad is so grumpy that he will not even hear of all my internet pleasures
AidenY: lol, chris
DafneG: lol, Chris
SusanneN left the room (signed off).
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DafneG: Sus' astral body left and came back
AidenY: my daugher is telling me to log off and concentrate on the movie
ChristophJ: Mom is giving it a good go though
DafneG: lol
AidenY: that's good to hear, chrisa
MichaelAC: Claire - the phone blog site is http://www.audblog.com/
ClaireB: thanks, michael
MichaelAC: whoops audioblog.com
AidenY: i haven't heard of that, claire
VanceS: hmmm audio blog ...
MichaelAC: No I was right the first time - http://www.audblog.com/
MichaelAC: They are quite amazing
ChristophJ: Is it like an audio report rather than a written one Michael?
AidenY: so is it like a recorded voice journal?
MichaelAC: Yes Aiden
AidenY: wow
AidenY: is it for freee
ChristophJ: Is there text to accompany it, or only audio?
AidenY: can my students use it?
MichaelAC: So when you post your travel photos you can blog a voice narration with them
DafneG: good for your voice portfolio project, Aiden
AidenY: yes
AidenY: i was just thinking about that daf
AidenY: and instead of writingb the9r blogs, just record their voices
MichaelAC: And you coiuld have text as well (I think)
DafneG: great
DafneG: free?
AidenY: question, where do they save the file,
MichaelAC: On their server
VanceS: there's a 'trial' here
MichaelAC: so it's a paid service
AidenY: can others retrieve the file
MichaelAC: Do you mean retrieve and save? Dunno. I've just tried to listen to them
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MichaelAC: And that's no problem
AidenY: yes,
MargaretD left the room (signed off).
AidenY: how much is it?
ClaireB: must go and do some work -- bye all
DafneG: bye, Claire
AidenY: bye claire
MichaelAC: I don't know Aiden. I haven't had time to get back and look at it in more detail
VanceS: you can post one for free and after that it's three dollars a month for twelve two-min post
DafneG: nice seeing you
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MichaelAC: OK - so there;s the price from V
AidenY: oh no, limited, not enough for my students
AidenY: i might as well use wimba voice recorder
AidenY: for free
DafneG: great
VanceS: that's email, right?
SusanneN: the teacher I told you about who is researching in phone blogs is called Lara Stefansdottir, Aiden, she is also a member of Learningtimes. I just lost the relevant link to the tool
MargaretD: or PureVo8ice
AidenY: yes, pure voice
VanceS: purevoice is also email or file transfer and both parties must have the software
DafneG: but with Wimba you do not need to install any software
MichaelAC: Wimba is both email and asyhcn discussions Vance
VanceS: I don't think you need any special sw with Wimba
MichaelAC: (I'm sure you know that!)
AidenY: the only nproblem with pure voice is saving of the file and retreival
SusanneN: but ask in the learningtimes discussion and she will probably get in touch - Lara has been involved with Kidlink for many years
ChristophJ: wimba is live, too in addition to e-mail and asynchr
ChristophJ: i believe
AidenY: yes,
SusanneN: her Icelandig blog is not so easy for you to read I am afraid
DafneG: right, the chat room
JahidoS: ok i get to go now.... thanks to you all
SusanneN: bye Hamza
AidenY: that's what i'll be trying out on firday next week, on how to use wimba within blackboard
JahidoS: very nice indeed meeting you
MichaelAC: Bye Hamza. Good to meet you
AidenY: bye hamza
DafneG: Bye, Hamza, nice meeting you
ChristophJ: bye Hamza, take care
AidenY: see next time and perhapd we could try voice chat next time
MichaelAC: What time is that meeting Aiden?
AidenY: 10 am Taiwan time
JahidoS: here is my yahoo messenger niceriver@yahoo.com
VanceS: next sunday?
DafneG: GMT?
AidenY: i'm still waiting for their confirmatiopn
VanceS: oh, can you fill me in on that?
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AidenY: friday, vance
JahidoS: next sundey i will come
MargaretD: is that email Hamza?
MichaelAC: Mmmm - I can't be there till 11.00 am your time
JahidoS: and meet u on the messenger
AidenY: will expect you, hamza
JahidoS: yes
VanceS: I understand we can use Ellucidate at this time?
AidenY: that's alright
JahidoS: my email and yahoo messenger
AidenY: i think i'd still be there
MichaelAC: Elluminate
VanceS: I haven't been in touch with the developers from our last session
AidenY: besides they will still ahve to confirm the time
JahidoS: bye all
MichaelAC: if you make it a bit later Aiden I can join you
MichaelAC: Bye Hamza!
VanceS: bye Jahido, ma'a salama
AidenY: ok, michale ill let you know
JahidoS: ma3 alsalama shokran
JahidoS: bye
JahidoS left the room (signed off).
VanceS: a3fwan
AidenY: can i upload files in ti reception
AidenY: or should i do it in my office
VanceS: what's happening next Friday?
AidenY: online/f2f training on using wimba within blackboard
AidenY: this is for the research project that I want to do
DafneG: you can get to your office files from reception ,Aiden
MichaelAC: Aiden's meeting with Blackboard folks
AidenY: i have prepared the proposal and I'd like to share it with you
AidenY: and I'd like to hear your comments, suggestions
SusanneN: yes, as members of Learningtimes we are able to meet in the Elluminate classroom, but we have no access to record a session without agreement with a leader
SusanneN: aide, that is great
VanceS: did you post the proposal on WIA list?
AidenY: i'm excited about doing the oral portfolio assessment
AidenY: not yet
MichaelAC: As I've heard A's proposal and have a ton of work to do I'll dip out here
AidenY: am afraid to do that, i want to hear your opinions first
MichaelAC: Nice to catch up with you all.
SusanneN: Ok, Michael
VanceS: cya Michael
VanceS: latahs
SusanneN: bye for now
DafneG: CU, Michael
AidenY: bye mike
MichaelAC: I'll be in touch Aiden.
AidenY: ok
ChristophJ: Bye Michael
AidenY: i'll try to upload it in my office
MichaelAC: Good night all. (morning, afternoon etc)
MichaelAC :)
AidenY: how can you read it if I do that?
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SusanneN: we will need to visit your office then I think
AidenY: i'll try to do that then
VanceS: if you upload it to where? Your tapped in office?
AidenY: yes
SusanneN: those features have been reprogrammed so I have forgotten the rules :-)
SusanneN: yes
AidenY: is it ok, if i do it now
SusanneN: you have a file space in your office
VanceS: and then announce to WIA where we can go to find it?
AidenY: no not yet vance
AidenY: if you guys think it's ok, then i'll upload it in "WIa if not, i'll hold on to it
DafneG: I have some comments
SusanneN: you just need to make it public (that would be, for those who knew you had it there)
VanceS: well, reason I'm asking is because I've got to get motivated toward the airport in half an hour
VanceS: but once I get back to Abu Dhabi and resume normal life I hope to get more involved as per previously
AidenY: yes, that's correct sus
SusanneN: do you wish to have our connets, and not from the whole big list Aiden?
SusanneN: comments
AidenY: be back in a flash, will upload it
AidenY: yes, sus
DafneG: I will send themto you later, or we can discuss them tomorrow
VanceS: if you want to limit access you could use Webheadsinaction
SusanneN: Vance, we will look forward to your upcoming engagement level
SusanneN: wia is still a bigger group
VanceS: the files there are no longer available to non members due to change in YahooGroups policy
SusanneN: true
AidenY: yes, in WIA2, vance
DafneG: Aiden wants to give it for comments to a small group of Webheads, I guess
SusanneN: daf, what did you try to sa` I'm not sure I goit your message
AidenY: daf's right
AidenY left the room.
DafneG: Aiden sent me the project, and I have some comments to make
SusanneN: the WIA 2 list has not so many mamners, Right?
SusanneN: m-e-m-b-e-r-s - a word that I often misspell
SusanneN: I see
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DafneG: but i need to make notes to be able to discuss them with Aiden
AidenY: back...it's there
AidenY: take your time, Daf
VanceS: i'm checking
DafneG: I am engaged with the narration of the implementation of my unit for the diss
AidenY: but I think I'll give it to Frank (Wimba Twn) and tell him it's a general proposal
DafneG: I have finally found the tone
DafneG: I will try to write my comments this evening, Aiden
AidenY: thanks, daf
SusanneN: I am not sure I will find time to read it carefully enough to make the relevant comments , as I do have so many unended projects, to be honest
AidenY: that's alright, sus
VanceS: there are 11 members in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/webheadsinaction/
SusanneN: but as you know I am a very curious person, too, so I will skim it and see if I have something to say about the way you put things
DafneG: I might send my comments with the word comment feature
DafneG: to make it faster
AidenY: yes, that's a cool way to do it, too
VanceS: besides those present today there are Damian, Chris Jones, Elizabeth HS, Joao Fernandez and Teresa
SusanneN: I will certainly be following your project as a lurker on the sideline somehow and maybe join some chats if desired
AidenY: you're gonna love the chats part sus
SusanneN: I sure will, Aiden :-))
VanceS: Susanne and Maggi would have to join if wishing to participate if you use webheadsinaction as your file repository
AidenY: vance, what's that about?
VanceS: did I misunderstand? I thought you wanted to upload to webheadsinaction
VanceS: you said WIA2, is that what you meant?
AidenY: well, once it's done and revised, yes, vance I will
SusanneN: it is SO weird, for some days I've been unable to reach my Yahoo groups and mail, still using the same old password
VanceS: ok, well I'll be in the air for the next 36 hours, asleep for the following 5 or 6 and at work till about this time in two days
SusanneN: but I can access my yahoo messenger identlty
VanceS: can I participate or is that too late for you to get feedback?
AidenY: sure, vance
SusanneN: Vance, sounds like a very long travel!
AidenY: i'd love to hear form you
VanceS: ok, then where can I read the proposal?
SusanneN: I wish you a pleasant journey!
AidenY: and the people who are here right now are of course welcome to join anytime
SusanneN: that's great Aiden
AidenY: in the files section, in my T12 office
VanceS: oh, ok
SusanneN: that should not be so hard to find
AidenY: i'll send it to you, vancestevens@yahoo.com?
SusanneN smiles her helpdesk smile
DafneG: The Spanish is winning the Formula1 race
VanceS: you could start a TI group for it ... try vance_stevens@eudoramail.com
MargaretD: so mch for the Schumis
VanceS: the yahoo acct is filling with photos from a visit with Sylvia
VanceS: Daf will remember her from Salt Lake City
DafneG: have a safe and pleasant trip, Vance
SusanneN: oh oh, eudoramail - is that a new online readbale mailbox?
SusanneN: read-able
DafneG: yes, I do, Vance
VanceS: she lives in San Diego and showed Dusty and I around for a day
DafneG: I need to install Eudora
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AidenY: ok
AidenY: just sent it vance
SusanneN: a double identity, Vance?
VanceS: ok, that's me. I was just testing the DSL with Zone Alarm
VanceS: I'm going to move there
Vance_aGst1 left the room (signed off).
VanceS: brb
SusanneN hugs a great goodbye to Maggi, Chris Vance Daf and Aiden
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Room: VirtualVance

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Room: TI_Reception

VanceS joined the room.
ChristophJ: bye Sus
VanceS: there I'm on DSL now
VanceS waves bye to Sus
ChristophJ: Are you at an internet cafe vance, or is it laptop with a wireless or ????
VanceS: can someone email me the logs from the first hour today?
HenryKa joined the room.
ChristophJ: sure, Vance
AidenY: which email, eudora?
VanceS: no, at the house of my ex-sister in law
DafneG: Schumacher got in the 8th position
ChristophJ: not a good day for Germany
VanceS: sorry ex-STEP sister in law
ChristophJ is connecting the dots
VanceS: my dad's first marriage
DafneG: no, Chris, i am Shcumacher fan, but I am happy for the spanish guy
VanceS: his son, his son's first wife
ChristophJ has a few relations like that too
DafneG: he is the youngest to win a F1 race
AidenY: complicated, vance
VanceS: there's a whole clan of grandkids here I've just met for the first time in 40 years
DafneG: nice to have big family
ChristophJ: I have 2 first cousins I haven't seen since the mid 80s
VanceS: hey this is like, you know, California, dude?
AidenY: lol
DafneG: lol
ChristophJ: bet you're stoked, vance
VanceS: gnarly
AidenY: yeah, sound like one, vance
ChristophJ: tubular
ChristophJ: He was surfin' , gotta talk the talk, already walks the walk
VanceS: right down to the nose
VanceS: hi Henry, wondering what's going on here no doubt
VanceS: we're a group of serious researchers, actually
DafneG: lol
ChristophJ: Hi Henry, yes, very serious researchers (lapsing into our surfing past)
AidenY: ooppps, didn't notice Henry joined us, hello there
DafneG: hi Henry
AidenY: my daughter's telling me to watch, i'd better go, before she gives me the look (she got it from her father)
AidenY: tonight,, it's stephen king's night
ChristophJ: If she makes popcorn, Aiden, that'll get you to watch
DafneG: lol
AidenY: he was in the movie too,k he played the role of the pizza deliveryman
DafneG: I am leaving too, my diss is giving me the look
AidenY: lol chris
AidenY: lol
ChristophJ: I am doing sume mundane diss work
AidenY: anyway
ChristophJ: better give it my concentration
DafneG: lol
AidenY: nitey nite folks
DafneG: bye, folks, nice to be back here
ChristophJ: enjoy the flick Aiden
AidenY: if you could join me on Friday, please do, woul;d ap[preciate it
ChristophJ: flick = movie
AidenY: sure will, chris
DafneG: see you around, and do not over heat your phone, Chris
SusanneN: goodbye, hubby has given me that look too and I responded long ago that I would join him
ChristophJ blushes
DafneG: lol
SusanneN: lol, Daf, did YOU say so?
VanceS: I'll read your proposal when I get sorted in Abu Dhabi
DafneG: are you still there, Sus
AidenY: thanks, vaNCe
ChristophJ: bye everyone
AidenY: ciao
SusanneN: I got back :-))
DafneG: bye all
DafneG: lol
AidenY left the room (signed off).
VanceS: what time Fri?
SusanneN: I'll join the gppdbye ceremony
DafneG left the room (signed off).
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SusanneN: ooh typos are haunting my keyboard today
VanceS: hmmm any idea what time Friday?
SusanneN: friday, what happens Aiden?
SusanneN: nope
SusanneN: we'll have to mail her and ask for more niformation
VanceS: oh well, I guess I'll get in travel mode
VanceS: yeah, can you send me transcript from first hour?
SusanneN: get ready, pack, drive!
VanceS: if you were there
SusanneN: I think Calire will I came in late
MargaretD left the room (signed off).
SusanneN: claire
SusanneN: if not, yes
VanceS: ok, well nice to see you this early morning in Sunny Southern Cal
SusanneN: Bye bye and good luck
SusanR joined the room.
VanceS: ok, cya from abu Dhabi later
SusanR waves a quick hello
VanceS: hi Susan and bye
SusanneN: Hi Susan, we're all leaving
VanceS: or do you need anything?
SusanR: I am fine. Just dropped in!
SusanR: Have a good day.
SusanneN: see you next week perhaps
VanceS: for Webhead? or for Tapped In?
SusanR: See you online.
SusanneN: Susan has been with us before
SusanR left the room.
VanceS: oh, ok, well I'm going to jump in the door while it's still revolving
SusanneN: well, over and out!
VanceS left the room (signed off).

2003.08.24 06:57:50 Signoff
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