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Webheads chat logs from December 8, 2002

Tapped In

Connected to TAPPED IN on Sun Dec 8 02:49:30 2002 PST.

VanceS looks the friendly webhead.

FlorenciaD finds her way in.

FlorenciaD's personal recorder follows FlorenciaD to here.

FlorenciaD exclaims, "Hi !"

FlorenciaD asks, "Are you available ?"

FlorenciaD writes on the whiteboard...

FlorenciaD finds her way out.

VanceS teleports to the reception.

Started recording in Reception (#268)[TappedIn] at Sun Dec 8 03:54:33 2002 PST.

JamesGB has arrived.

JamesGB's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

BJB [HelpDesk] exclaims, "food is a wonderful topic!"

JamesGB has arrived.

SonjaE has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] waves hi to Vance and James

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "hi, is Florencia still here?"

FionaL says, "Hi everyone"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, Sonja. G'day"

BJB [to Sonja]: "are you being affected by the fires?"

SonjaE says, "G'day BJ"

JamesGB leaves for the ASO.

JamesGB's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the ASO.

SonjaE says, "No not in Darwin, we're at the beinning of our wet season"

BJB [to VanceS]: "I didn't see her. I talked with her yesterday and she said she'd be here"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "oh, Florencia might be trying to get an office"

LydiaC says, "Fiona, today we'll talk about"

BJB . o O ( she's on the 18th floor. I'll go see if I can help her )

LydiaC asks, "spanish food, right?"

LydiaC asks, "Do you have any idea about it?"

FionaL says, "not all Spanish food.... i guess we will talk about lots"

Jacqui has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "I wouldn't be able to help you much with athentic Spanish food...I'm in the US"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, Jacqui. Welcome"

FionaL says, "haha~ so you can help us of American food"

FionaL says, "hi"

Jacqui [guest] says, "Hello."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "sorry, distracted a bit :-("

LydiaC asks, "Where are you from, Jacqui?"

cbnm has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, Cbnm. Welcome"

Claire_Chang has connected.

Jacqui [guest] says, "I was born and raised in San Francisco, CA; but, I have been in TX for the past 3 years"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "hi everyone again"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_121 [guest] has lost its link.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "there was someone in my office, and he just left"

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "hi~"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Hi, Claire"

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "Hi~Bj"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Hey I was born in Texas and lived in California 2 years"

LydiaC exclaims, "Hi, Claire!"

BJB [HelpDesk] nods to Vance...sometimes real life can be so disruptive!

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "I am a student of Aiden"

JenniferCL has connected.

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "hi~Lydia"

FionaL says, "hi Claire"

VanceS [to BJB]: "why can't everyone just go on line. So mellow here."

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "hi~~Fiona"

LydiaC asks, "Where are you, in school or..?"

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "in school~~"

JenniferCL leaves for the El.

JenniferCL's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

ToddHs has arrived.

ToddHs's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

SusanneN has arrived.

DiaLog follows SusanneN to here.

TimeLog follows SusanneN to here.

BJB [HelpDesk] hugs Sus

VanceS [the friendly webhead] waves to FionaL, BJB [HelpDesk], LydiaC,

SonjaE, Jacqui [guest], Claire_Chang [guest], ToddHs, and SusanneN [WH].

Jacqui [guest] says, "I am a doctoral student in the College of Education at Texas Tech University."

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "hello~Todd"

SusanneN [WH] waves hello

FionaL says, "Hello to everyone again"

ToddHs says, "hi~claire"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "What are you studying, Jacqui?"

LydiaC exclaims, "Hi, Todd!"

BJB drops 2002/12/08 Webheads (recording).

ToddHs says, "hi~every everyone"

SusanneN [WH] says, "Hi New Webheads Jacqui and Sonja! Nice to have you with us today :-)"

Jacqui [guest] says, "I am studying educational design and instructional technology."

ToddHs says, "hi~lydia"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Hi Todd, where are you logging on from?"

SonjaE says, "Hi sus, nice to meet you here again"

TristaP has connected.

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "how long have you been here?Lydia"

JohnSte has arrived.

White Book of Tarkin Ru follows JohnSte to here.

SusanneN [WH] says, "yes, we did meet once, I remember, Sonja :-)"

LydiaC says, "Claire, today is my BF's birthday.."

FionaL says, "Hi Trista"

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "hi~~Trista"

SusanneN [WH] says, "Hello dr. Cat :-)"

LydiaC says, "Hi, Trista."

TristaP says, "Hello~ everyone"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] bows to Dr. Cat

BJB [HelpDesk] asks, "Hi, John. How are you feeling?"

ToddHs says, "hi~Trista"

FlorenciaD has arrived.

FlorenciaD's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

ChristopherMJ has connected.

Eileen has connected.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] waves to Florencia

JenniferCL has arrived.

JenniferCL's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

LydiaC says, "I've been here for 5 mins."

JohnSte [Dr. Cat] says, "Hi, all. I'm not here for very long today."

FionaL says, "wow~ there are so many people here"

RitaZ has connected.

ChristopherMJ exclaims, "Hi everyone!"

TristaP says, "I had a problem with my password~ so.."

JohnSte [Dr. Cat] says, "I have to finish my grades today."

SonjaE says, "There sure are-its like a party"

SusanneN exclaims, "Hi Chris!"

FlorenciaD exclaims, "Hi everyone !"

VanceS [to FlorenciaD]: "Sorry I missed you in my office a moment agao"

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "so~Do you celebrate for him? Lydia"

ChristopherMJ says, "Like John, I have to run pretty soon, too."

TeresaAlm has arrived.

TeresaAlm's personal recorder follows TeresaAlm to here.

Eileen [guest] leaves for the 8th.

JohnSte . o O ( at least everything up to the final. )

RitaZ says, "Hi, everybody"

SusanneN hugs teresa

ChristopherMJ says, "Hi Tere"

JenniferCL says, "HELLO, everyone"

FlorenciaD exclaims, "Hi Vance !"

TeresaAlm says, "hi, webheads."

SusanneN hugs Rita, too

FlorenciaD says, "Finally I meet you...."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "what's up Chris? Got plans?"

LydiaC says, "I buy a sweater for him and give it to him yesterday."

JenniferCL says, "there's no one there in 802"

FlorenciaD says, "Luckily BJ guided me inside Tapped in"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] is happy to meet Florencia

TeresaAlm says, "i'm going up to 802."

ChristopherMJ [to VanceS]: "I have to get a presentation ready. Big job interview this week"

TeresaAlm leaves for the El.

TeresaAlm's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

FionaL says, "Just wait for students~ Jennifer"

CindyW has connected.

FionaL says, "Hi Cindy"

LydiaC says, "Hi, Cindy"

Claire_Chang [guest] asks, "I want to go up to 8th floor~~Lydia~~Do you want go with me?"

ToddHs says, "hi~Cindy"

TristaP says, "Hi.~ Cindy"

Claire_Chang [guest] says, "Cindy~~Cindy~~~~~hihi"

Pilar has connected.

LydiaC asks, "Ok, but how?"

SusanneN says, "Now that tere is going to Aiden's office, it is easy top join her for the Taiwan student's class"

CindyW says, "Yes,let's go."

VanceS [to Chris]: "who with?"

JenniferCL says, "shall we go there now"

JenniferCL leaves for the 802.

JenniferCL's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the 802.

ChristopherMJ [to VanceS]: "A university down in the southern Black Forest - good job"

Claire_Chang [guest] leaves for the El.

ToddHs says, "ok~let's go 802"

ToddHs leaves for the El.

ToddHs's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "If you want to join Teresa type /join TeresaAlm"

CindyW goes OUT.

CindyW's personal recorder (recording) goes OUT.

SusanneN says, "Sounds interesting, Chris"

TristaP says, "It seems lots of people here~"

You hear a quiet popping sound; LydiaC has disconnected.

ChristopherMJ [to Jacqui [guest]]: "BTW, Jacqui, welcome to Webheads. I have been to post that in the Yahoo group all week"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] looks to see who's left ??? FionaL, BJB [HelpDesk], SonjaE, Jacqui [guest], SusanneN, TristaP, JohnSte [Dr. Cat], FlorenciaD, ChristopherMJ, RitaZ, and Pilar [guest].

SusanneN says, "Trista, tyep"

RitaZ suddenly disappears.

SusanneN says, "Trista, type /join teresaalm"

SonjaE suddenly disappears.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "That's /join TeresaAlm"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "yes, same thing"

FionaL leaves for the El.

FionaL's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

TristaP asks, "TeresaAlm?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "So, Chris, big job interview, where?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Yeah, Teresa went upstairs to meet with Aiden's studnets"

LydiaC has connected.

Pilar [guest] asks, "Sorry what kind of chat is this?"

ChristopherMJ says, "The Furtwangen University of Applied Sciences"

SusanneN [to Jacqui [guest]]: "I tried to use the techTool, but my sad old computer did not get the wakeup call ."

SusanneN says, "Hello Pilar"

ChristopherMJ ...professorships.

Pilar [guest] says, "hello Susan"

SusanneN says, "This is the weekly Webheads meeting"

VanceS [to Pilar,]: "we are webheads, are you joining from Study.com?"

Pilar [guest] says, "I'm a teacher too"

TristaP says, "Oh! Thank you! So, I have to go now!!! ^_^"

FlorenciaD [to <bjb>]: "this is nice...I'm just seeing to get an idea about how it works..."

Pilar [guest] says, "yes"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I was just in study.com chatting with a bunch of people there"

TristaP exclaims, "Nic to meet you!"

TristaP leaves for the El.

TristaP's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

SusanneN [to Pilar [guest]]: "for some reason we stay in reception where everybody logs in. can I help you?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "yes, welcome, where are you from Pilar?"

Pilar [guest] says, "I'm spanish"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Are you living in Spain?"

SusanneN says, "I live in Denmark, Pilar"

Pilar [guest] says, "Yes, in the north of spain"

JohnSte [Dr. Cat] says, "I live in Puerto Rico, Pilar."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Barcelona? San Sebastian?"

ChristopherMJ says, "Hi Pilar, I'm Chris in Germany"

Pilar [guest] says, "near from San Sebastian"

JamesGB has connected.

LydiaC leaves for the 8th.

LydiaC's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the 8th.

ChristopherMJ says, "Hi James"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, James. Welcome back"

Jacqui [guest] says, "Hi Pilar. I live in the south plains of Texas."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I know some people in Peralta and was in Pamplona a couple years back"

Pilar [guest] asks, "and all of you are students or teachers?"

Jacqui [guest] says, "Yes. I am both -- a teacher and a graduate student."

Pilar [guest] says, "I worked near from Peralta, I worked in Marcilla"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I am a teacher and a lifelong student"

ChristopherMJ says, "Both, but at the moment, I think it's mostly teachers"

JohnSte [Dr. Cat] says, "Well, I have to get back to correcting my last set of compositions. We have final exams next week, and I have to be ready for them."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_67 [guest] has disconnected.

ChristopherMJ says, "See you, John"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "The family I know there is Arpon"

JohnSte [Dr. Cat] says, "See you all next week."

You hear a quiet popping sound; JamesGB has disconnected.

SusanneN says, "And I live not far from Copenhagen - 20 kilometers, in a near-to-suburban district with lakes and hilly forest"

You hear a quiet popping sound; JohnSte [Dr. Cat] has disconnected.

SusanneN says, "Bye john"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] counts noses ..s BJB [HelpDesk], Jacqui [guest], SusanneN, FlorenciaD, and ChristopherMJ.

Eileen comes home.

SusanneN says, "Hi, Eileen"

VanceS [to FlorenciaD]: "Where are you at the moment?"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_29 [guest] has lost its link.

ChristopherMJ [to Pilar]: "What do you study, Pilar? I study Computing Technology in Education - getting my Ph.D."

ChristopherMJ says, "Hi Eileen"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] waves to Eileen

FlorenciaD says, "7wh bjb no...I will"

glria has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, Gloria. Welcome"

BJB [to Gloria]: "are you in Aiden's class?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Hi GLoria"

glria [guest] says, "No"

ChristopherMJ says, "Hi Gloria"

SusanneN says, "I study education theory, but has specialized in the online relations in communities of educational practice, I study at the new Danish University of Education in Copenhagen"

MargaretD arrives from nowhere.

MargaretD's personal recorder follows MargaretD to here.

glria [guest] says, "It first timt I am here."

ChristopherMJ exclaims, "Sus is a great colleague with similar research interest to mine!"

SusanneN hugs Maggi

MargaretD hugs all around

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Welcome GLoria, and hi to Maggi"

BJB [HelpDesk] hugs Maggie...I hope your connection is better today

SusanneN says, "Chris, btw, you told me you had some part of your paper to share with me, but I never found any in my mail"

ChristopherMJ says, "Alla, Maggi, bisch da - Malzeit (Badisch)"

MargaretD says, "we'll see"

ChristopherMJ [to SusanneN]: "I promise I will send it to you today"

MargaretD says, "eh, gude, wie ... Hessish"

SusanneN says, "We had a fine session yesterday, with Maggi, Chris Jones, Teresa, Rita and Nigel"

Eileen has connected.

SusanneN [to Chris]: "I'm looking forward to read and comment :-)"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I'm almost embarrassed to say where I was"

Eileen [guest] leaves for the El.

ChristopherMJ asks, "Cool! It's good to stagger time zones that way. Will the logs be posted in the same place on the WIA site?"

SusanneN says, "Vance, I'll edit the log from yesterday's session"

SusanneN says, "yes, I can mail it to Vance and he will put it up, I suppose"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "If you do that I'll post it"

SusanneN looks at Vance - wher WERE you?

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I'm very glad people met there, and I had every intention to meet with you .. but ..."

SusanneN says, "I can even HTML it first"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I fell asleep on the couch"

JamesGB has connected.

SusanneN says, "We also missed Arlyn who took an initiative to meet us"

MargaretD says, "hi James"

SusanneN says, "I suppose you really needed some rest, Vance"

CynthiaLi has connected.

You hear a quiet popping sound; FlorenciaD has disconnected.

BJB [HelpDesk] wonders if James is having connection problems

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I must have. Anyway, if several people were there it's a quorum"

MargaretD says, "Hi Cynthia"

CynthiaLi says, "hi"

SusanneN asks, "What IS a quorum ...?"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Hi, Cynthia."

MargaretD says, "enough people"

ChristopherMJ says, "Hi James & Cynthia"

CynthiaLi says, "hi~"

BJB [to James]: "can I help you? I'm a helpdesk volunteer for TAPPED IN..."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "If you have a meeting, you might have to have so many people there to make it official, and that's a QUORUM"

You hear a quiet popping sound; JamesGB has lost his link.

SusanneN says, "Cynthia, your class is meeting upstairs with Teresa"

CynthiaLi says, "ok~ thanks SusanneN"

CynthiaLi leaves for the El.

CynthiaLi's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

ChristopherMJ . o O ( so that's what a quorum is )

SusanneN says, "Then, a meeting we did have, so it was a true Quorum"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I think a quorum for Webheads is 2"

SusanneN says, "We made some training with teleportation, emotes and moods"

SusanneN says, "plus has some social chat"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I'll be in Egypt next Saturday, and Sunday"

MargaretD says, "small talk"

SusanneN says, "Yes, a big small talk, Maggi :-"

SusanneN asks, "What are you up to in Egypt, Vance?"

glria [guest] says, "Vance,Is there a beggining class? How can apply for?My English is not good."

SusanneN says, "Oh yes! the Egyptesol"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "That's right"

ChristopherMJ says, "I saw something about Vance meeting Ismail when he's there"

SusanneN asks, "gloria, you might join the conversation class with the taiwan students if you like?"

MargaretD says, "Gloria any practice helps"

VanceS [to Glria [guest]]: "You might try upstairs ... as Susan says"

glria [guest] says, "Yes"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "and also, you can stay and talk with us"

Pilar has connected.

SusanneN says, "Hi, welcome back Pilar"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "where are you from gloria?"

glria [guest] says, "I am from Brazil."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Yes, Ismail and I are giving a presentation and hoping webheads will join us online for it"

SusanneN [to Gloria]: "Are you a student, or a teacher?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "it's at 8 a.m. GMT next Saturday"

glria [guest] says, "I am student."

SusanneN says, "What a nice hour :-)"

SusanneN says, "I can be there, for sure, vance"

IreneH has connected.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] claps and jumps up and down

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Hi Irene"

IreneH leaves for the El.

IreneH's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

VanceS [to Glria [guest]]: "what do you study and where do you live in Brazil?"

SusanneN smiles overbearingly to the sight of the friendly webhead doing his exercises

ChristopherMJ [to VanceS]: "Where will the conference be? Here in Tapped In?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I'm hoping here in Tapped In and in Yahoo on web cam of course"

ChristopherMJ says, "OK, sounds good"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I'm not sure if I'll have my guitar actually IN the conference ..."

ChristopherMJ says, "LOOL"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "but if you have YOURS that will be fun"

ChristopherMJ says, "LOL"

SarahCh has connected.

glria [guest] says, "I am graduated in biochemistry and I live in So Jose dos Campos."

ChristopherMJ says, "OK, Vance, I'll tune it at 7:45 :-)"

SusanneN says, "I can put on my silent webcam, too"

VanceS [to Chris]: "cool"

SarahCh leaves for the El.

SarahCh's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

BJB [HelpDesk] will pass on that one...it's 3am for me ;-(

ChristopherMJ says, "3 a.m. is a tall order, that's for sure"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "I have been to Brazil but I don't know So Jose dos Campos, where is it?"

SusanneN [to Gloria]: "I'm a Danish bgraduate stuednet of education theory in Denmark, Europe"

glria [guest] says, "It near So Paulo."

SusanneN . o O ( graduate student, sorry for typing too fast )

VanceS [the friendly webhead] sets BJ's alarm for 2:45

SusanneN says, "No, Vance, this woman need some sleep"

BJB [HelpDesk] smashes the alarm with a large mallet

ChristopherMJ [to Gloria]: "I'm an American graduate student of Educational Technology in Germany"

SusanneN says, "Well done, granny BJ"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "ouch, almost got my finger there"

BJB [HelpDesk] chuckles

Pilar [guest] asks, "Vance why this programm is closed whe a few time passes?"

BJB [to Pilar [guest]]: "are you on AOL?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "do you mean you are losing your connection?"

Pilar [guest] asks, "what is that?"

BJB [to Pilar [guest]]: "it probably has something to do with your server"

Pilar [guest] says, "yes"

SusanneN [to Pilar [guest]]: "that is America Online, AOL"

ChristopherMJ [to SusanneN]: "just sent you my chapter 2 -enough CoP theory for a lifetime :-)"

Pilar [guest] says, "it can be because I am not a member"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Do you go to study.com often Pilar?"

SusanneN says, "Are you sure you did not close any windows, that might also stop your connection to Tapped In"

Pilar [guest] says, "sometimes"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "do you meet the same people there?"

BJB . o O ( TAPPED IN is not making you lose your connection by timing out...it is probably a setting that your server has. )

ChristopherMJ says, "be right back"

Pilar [guest] says, "Paulista always is there"

SusanneN says, "Vance and Pilar , tell us about study.com"

Pilar [guest] says, "vance will say you I don't know speak in English"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Study.com is run by David Winet"

SusanneN says, "Oh, I see now - I know it"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I just met Pilar talking very nicely there"

SusanneN says, "the chatroom is not too excellent, technically spoken, from my side."

Pilar [guest] says, "talking no, typing"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I went there to show a colleague the Chatterbox chat room"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "It works through our firewall here"

glria [guest] asks, "Vance, how can I talk here?"

SusanneN says, "yes, Pilar, I agree, sometimes typing is easier that pronouncing the words by mouht"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "We usually talk on Yahoo Messenger here"

Pilar [guest] says, "yes, and for me it's more fast"

SusanneN says, "we do not have any voice facility either, just mentioning typing as if we were speaking :-)"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Are you able to get voice in YM susanne?"

SusanneN says, "No :-(("

SusanneN says, "I am still stuck with my mac system incompability"

SusanneN says, "Too bad"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "We have a problem getting everyone in one voice chat room"

SusanneN says, "SOME day, I might get a better solution , but go ahead and try it"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "to use Yahoo you must have it installed, do you have it?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Yahoo Messenger?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "We could also try the alado chatterbox chat room, but that's also not possible for Macs"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "and we can try iVisit which is ok for Mac's but doesn't work well for me"

glria [guest] asks, "I still have a Yahho loggin, but I dont know about Messenger?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "let me find the url for you"

SusanneN says, "And besides, the voice is poor in iVisit"

glria [guest] says, "I have Ivisit instaled, but I dont have a web cam..."

SusanneN [to Jacqui [guest]]: "are youstill with us?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "why don't you and Susanne try out iVisit for a moment"

glria [guest] asks, "Vance, how can u find the url?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I can try it too"

SusanneN exclaims, "Vance, did you know that Jacqui is a mec veteran!"

SusanneN asks, "Gloria do you have a microphone?"

glria [guest] says, "Yes."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_10 [guest] has disconnected.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "The url is http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/index.html"

ChristopherMJ says, "Well folks, I'd better get back to my interview preperation. See you all next wek."

SusanneN says, "Then I think you would like to try yahoo Messenger"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "shall I /project it or /show it to you?"

ChristopherMJ says, "bye"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "OK Chris, nice to see you"

SusanneN hugs old Chris

BJB [HelpDesk] waves bye to Chris

VanceS [the friendly webhead] exclaims, "break a leg!"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "(hat"

ChristopherMJ says, "Thanks, will let you know what hapened"

ChristopherMJ says, "bye"

Pilar has connected.

MargaretD says, "caio Chris"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "(sorry, that's what we say to people for good luck)"

SusanneN says, "We'll spit after you"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "welcome back, Pilar"

VanceS . o O ( Danish good luck I guess )

ChristopherMJ asks, "Is that Danish good luck (spitting)?"

SusanneN says, "That's what we do for good luck"

SusanneN says, "yes"

ChristopherMJ says, "ah...thanks, Sus"

Pilar [guest] says, "hello"

ChristopherMJ says, "bye"

SusanneN says, "brb"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ChristopherMJ has disconnected.

MargaretD says, "Hi Pilar5"

SusanneN . o O ( Have a phone call )

glria [guest] says, "What means brb"

BJB [to Pilar [guest]]: "there may be a setting somewhere that disconnects you if you are not active for a certain number of minutes"

MargaretD says, "be right bak"

BJB . o O ( brb = be right back )

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "it means ' be right back/"

MargaretD says, "back"

Pilar [guest] says, "It can be"

glria [guest] says, "thanks"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "When she returns, you can write wb, meaning Welcome Back"

Pilar [guest] says, "vance you tell me you had been living in Peralta..."

glria [guest] asks, "Where in the world is Peralta?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I visited some good friends in Peralta when I was last in Spain"

Pilar [guest] says, "ahhhh"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Peralta is just south of Pamplona"

glria [guest] says, "ahhh"

Pilar [guest] says, "Peralta is in Spain"

RitaZ has arrived.

RitaZ's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Hi Rita"

MargaretD says, "Hi Rita"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "If anyone wants to use voice, just say so and we can direct you."

Pilar [guest] asks, "and what we must do to hear?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "YOu might want to see this url too:

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vste vens/files/efi/software.htm"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I can /show it to you which will open it on your computer"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "The best we think it Yahoo Messenger, but you have to download it"

glria [guest] says, "OK, Il try to download Yahoo Messenger.."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Do you want me to /show you the url (open it on your computer)?"

glria [guest] asks, "But then, how can I talk whit this group?"

tina has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, Tina. Welcome"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Once you install it then you can talk with anyone"

glria [guest] says, "Yes, show it to me."

BJB [to Tina [guest]]: "are you in Aiden's class?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "We open a conference to have many people"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Ok, this will open a browser window on Gloria's computer ..."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] shows glria the URL: http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/index.html

You hear a quiet popping sound; RitaZ has lost her link.

tina [guest] says, "yes..i am in Aiden's class."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Hi Tina, you can type /join teresaalm or you can talk with us if you like"

BJB . o O ( tina may have an assignment to join the conversation in Aiden's office )

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I think there are a lot of people with Teresa from Aiden's class"

BJB [to Tina [guest]]: "type /join TeresaAlm"

tina [guest] suddenly disappears.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "These kids from Taiwan know how to get around don't they"

RitaZ has connected.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "wb rita"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "welcome back, Rita"

You hear a quiet popping sound; RitaZ has lost her link.

BJB . o O ( oops )

MargaretD says, "naja"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "It's interesting to see how much more confident Aiden's students have become"

Pilar [guest] finds its way out.

RitaZ has connected.

SusanneN says, "I'm back now"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Most of them can find their way on the elevator to her office"

BJB [HelpDesk] cheers for Sus

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "wb sus"

RitaZ suddenly disappears.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "poor rita"

MargaretD says, "happens"

SusanneN says, "I suppose PIlar is trying to manage her new Yahoo messenger"

SusanneN says, "Rita is with the taiwan class today I think"

MargaretD says, "she is persistent"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "brb (pp)"

tina has connected.

AidenY has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "welcome back, Tina"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves hi to Aiden

AidenY [back to normal] says, "hello people"

BJB [to AidenY]: "interesting mood you have there ;-)"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "just arrived home"

tina [guest] says, "hello.."

SusanneN hugs Aiden who is still back to normal

AidenY [back to normal] says, "checking out how many of my students from shir chien are here"

SusanneN says, "quite a lot of them in your office"

BJB [to AidenY]: "your group is talking away up in your office. I dropped a recorder and made you an owner"

SusanneN says, "spekaing with Teresa, Rita and Sonja"

tina [guest] says, "could you help me to go back to that chatting room again,BJB"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "good"

BJB [to Tina [guest]]: "type /join teresaAlm"

tina [guest] suddenly disappears.

AidenY [back to normal] says, "i was thinking about that BJ, but forgot to ask you in advance, i guess you read my mind;-)"

SusanneN says, "BJ has her routines, as a pro"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "BJ is a helpful mindreader"

BJB [HelpDesk] smiles...mindreading is a pre-requisite for helpdesk...right, Sus?

AidenY [back to normal] says, "tina, was that my student? I have a student whose name is also Tina"

SusanneN says, "yes"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "yes, Tina said she is your student"

SusanneN says, "she was here before and logged in again"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "we were just talking about how well your students are doing at tapped in"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "it's nice to get to know them"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "they've jazzed up Webheads a bit"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "these students are from shir chien, they love chatting and tappedin unlike my students from listening/conversation class in NKFUST"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "this group seems much more comfortable in the environment"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "oh, so you have two classes here"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "not today"

MargaretD says, "Hi Ai9den"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "hello maggi"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "wb, Maggi"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I meant two classes you are working with in Tapped in/ webheads"

MargaretD says, "again...:-)"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "how's the discussion in my office"

SusanneN says, "Your conversation class I met last week in Yahoo messenger - they acted very naturally and persistenly, despite all the technical trouble we had"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "for tappedin-just shir chien students"

tina has connected.

BJB [to AidenY]: "it's going well."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "oh, that's a great web page with Michael btw"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "for webheads, nkfust, unfortunately, they're not pretty active"

BJB [HelpDesk] bows deeply to Tina...I'm sorry you are having so much trouble...

AidenY [back to normal] says, "thanks, vance, i've just uploaded the chatlogs"

BJB [to Tina [guest]]: "type /join TeresaAlm"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "great"

ClaireB has connected.

AidenY [back to normal] asks, "ok, wait, are my students divided into hopw many groups?"

tina [guest] says, "Thanks /join TeresaAlm"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, Claire.Welcome"

SusanneN says, "I was not aware that you do have different strategies for each class, Aiden"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Great for michael to be so appreciated to"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "too"

ClaireB says, "Hi to all"

MargaretD says, "Hi Claire"

BJB [to Tina [guest]]: "try again...start the line with the /"

tina [guest] says, "Hi Claire."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Hi Claire"

tina [guest] says, "/join TeresaAlm" _________________ | |

BJB holds up a BIG sign: | /join TeresaAlm | |_________________|

AidenY [back to normal] says, "sus, it depends on the students, i can't force them to like what i'm doing, much more appreciate"

BJB . o O ( no space in front of the / )

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "the / has to be at the very beginning"

SusanneN hugs Claire to make her feel even mode welcomed in our midst

MargaretD says, "each class is different"

ClaireB hugs SusanneN

tina [guest] suddenly disappears.

ClaireB asks, "why is everyone in Aiden's office but Aiden is here with us?"

SusanneN says, "I agree, Aiden, and I admire the way you seem to manage the different learning styles and preferences with your students"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "i just arrived, claire"

MargaretD asks, "why not?"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "i'm about to go there, too"

SusanneN says, "Claire, Aiden is having guest teacher voluntt"

SusanneN says, "volunteers"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "btw, i had a great cruise, although, bit, wavy"

BJB . o O ( Teresa and Rita are leading the discussion in Aiden's office )

ClaireB says, "I see."

ClaireB says, "nice for Aiden! :-)"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "It's probably good to step back and let them enjoy communicating with others"

SusanneN says, "Nice for her class, too, I guess"

ClaireB says, "Yes, I used to like to do that with my students"

MargaretD says, "adapting to your students myakes it more fun for you too"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "that's what I do here in TI, I get them out in the fish bowl and mingle with other people, then my turn tomorrow, f2f"

SusanneN says, "the chatlog can give you an idea on how well they are progressing"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "yes, maghgi, but sometimes, frustrating"

CynthiaLi has arrived.

CynthiaLi's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "cruise, where was that ...? I'm recalling ..."

SusanneN asks, "Aiden, do you use that chatlog with them face to face?"

CynthiaLi says, "Hi~ Aiden. I have to leave.. See you tomorrw"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "for the past chats yes"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "bye cynthia"

CynthiaLi says, "Bye.."

SusanneN says, "Bye cynthis"

You hear a quiet popping sound; CynthiaLi has disconnected.

AidenY [back to normal] says, "see you tomo. dpon't forget the chatlogs ok"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "oopps, too late just have to email to the rest of the group"

ClaireB says, "yes, at Vance's presentation last year, I was impressed by the chatlogs that he showed us"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I chose instances which showed language development or inquiry"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "vance, i left friday for a 3day cruise with my family and that's why I had to ask the webheads for their help to carry on the discussion without me"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "cruise where?"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "off the coast of Japan"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "oh, so you went to Japan then"

SusanneN says, "I just love to read chatlogs. It is such an impressive kind of fluency and nochalant nolinear conversation style that I've come to appreciate, and I often find myself adding more comments to the log as read them."

AidenY [back to normal] says, "but never really landed, we never got off the ship"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Nice scenery?"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "see, that's the thing, how do you measure development, or learning improvements"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "deep blue, yes, but wavy"

SusanneN says, "Cruises at high sea must be a little hard to endure"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "very hard to measure, and also to attribute causal relationships"

glria [guest] asks, "Vance I just finished the Yahhoo messenger. Now I have to learn how to use it. So, Thanks for your help. Until what time you will be here?"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "yeah, i woke up 2 in the morning bec, the ship was rocking so badly"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "then scenes from titanic came flushing into my head"

ClaireB says, "wow, the next time I want to be out of town, I'll just send my students here. l0l"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "miki, was awake too and told me "you think too much""

SusanneN says, "Vance, I think one real problem in our world is the wish for measurability and fast progress, language wise"

SusanneN [to Claire]: "It is really an amazing thougfht"

VanceS [to Glria [guest]]: "if you have YM running, we can use it now"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "but then again, sus, learning takes time"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "and patience"

MargaretD says, "I worked on a Norwegian freighter for 3 months in the South Pacific...that was an expeerience"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "we could actually do this, given a study 1 year time"

glria [guest] says, "But I know nothing how it works.."

SusanneN exclaims, "Oh poor Aiden, Titanic nightmares onboard a ship is bad!"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "a controlled grou["

FionaL has connected.

AidenY [back to normal] says, "group"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "helloo fiona"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "nice to see you here"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "they're in my office"

SusanneN [to Maggi]: "I can imagine it was great"

DafneG arrives from nowhere.

Dafne's Private Eye follows DafneG to here.

AidenY [back to normal] says, "by the way, fiona"

SusanneN exclaims, "Hi ina!"

ParmjitB has connected.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Hi FIona, Gloria, if you have it running, I'll invite you to a conference"

SusanneN hugs Daf!

FionaL says, "i cant stop being kicking out from tappedin"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "you have to bring the chatlogs tomorrow to class"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "what is your Yahoo ID"

DafneG says, "good morning"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "Hi Daf"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "hello daf, thanks for being in my class"

2002/12/08 Webheads is full. Stopped recording.

ClaireB hugs daf

You hear a quiet popping sound; ParmjitB has disconnected.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "what's the news today, sad about the craziness in Caracas?"

DafneG says, "hello everybody"

FionaL asks, "all of the chatlogs this semester?"

ClaireB asks, "yes, how is it in Caracas?"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "only for tonight fiona"

DafneG says, "very badk, Claire"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Hi Fiona, what is your question?"

SusanneN to Daf We know it is chaotic :-(

ClaireB says, "please keep safe, Daf"

FionaL says, "gees.... i just keep loggin' out tonight"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "fiona, we will discuss about them tomorrow in class"

FionaL says, "i didnt say anything tonight"

BJB drops 2002/12/08 webheads2 (recording).

AidenY [back to normal] says, "oopps"

FionaL says, "ohh...."

glria [guest] says, "My Yahoo ID is "glofialho""

ChrisHua has connected.

DafneG says, "My family is fine, but some friends were hurt on Friday"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_48 [guest] has disconnected.

AidenY [back to normal] says, "hello chris"

ClaireB asks, "hurt in a crowd?"

SusanneN says, "Fiona, now and here's your chance :-)"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "ok, I invited Gloria"

DafneG says, "there was a killing, 5 people were killed and other 30 are hurt, some are in a very delicate condition"

AidenY [back to normal] says, "i can't wait to read the chatlogs later"

AidenY [back to normal] asks, "oh no, daf, where?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] listens to Daf "!!!"

SusanneN says, "I'm in Yahoo, too, Vance, invite me :-)"

SusanneN says, "Daf, I'm so sorry to hear that"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "oh, Dafne, how awful"

glria [guest] says, "Now, I going to Yahhoo"

ChrisHua projects AidenY [back to normal]. <webhead>

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_30 [guest] has disconnected.

ClaireB says, "please be very very careful, daf"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "5 more?"

DafneG says, "People were gathered peacefully and unarmed and people from buildings shot"

SusanneN says, "Daf is safe back in Spain, Claire"

DafneG says, "The whole country is paralized because the oil industry joined the strike"

DafneG says, "and now with the killing, more people are joining the strike"

ClaireB says, "yeah, I thought she was in Spain, but I forgot momentariy"

DafneG says, "we really want a peaceful way out of this"

DafneG says, "but it won't come unless there are new elections"

ClaireB says, "believe me, I understand. I want a peaceful way out of the deal with Iraq, but I don't hold out much hope"

ClaireB asks, "how can you get new elections?"

AidenY [back to normal] leaves for the El.

AidenY's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

You hear a quiet popping sound; ChrisHua has disconnected.

DafneG says, "2 million signatures were collected asking for it"

DafneG says, "but the president says he won't go to elections because he will rule until 2021"

DafneG says, "but tell, me what have you been up to, today"

VanceS . o O ( we are trying to invite glofialho to the conference so far without success )

ClaireB exclaims, "2021! That is ridiculous!!"

DafneG says, "He IS ridiculous, to say the least"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "he's almost as mad as our president"

ClaireB says, "well, no more ridiculous than our politicians"

DafneG says, "worst, Vance"

ClaireB says, "we have someone in the Senate now who just celebrated his 100th birthday last week, and they keep on re-electing him"

ClaireB says, "Strom Thurmond"

SusanneN says, "Claire, this is ridiculous"

You hear a quiet popping sound; FionaL has lost her link.

DafneG says, "this one is 40 something, so he has many years ahead"

ClaireB says, "more's the pity"

MargaretD says, "keeps the seat warm"

ClaireB says, "exactly"

ClaireB says, "bush is not only mad but extremely dangerous"

MargaretD says, "people are finally beginning to se that"

DafneG says, "the problem with this man in my country is that he is insane"

ClaireB says, "I think this Bush is much worse than his father"

DafneG says, "medically insane"

JacquiCy has connected.

SusanneN says, "Dafne, insanity seem to be another advantage in politics"

SusanneN says, "Hi Jacqui, welcome back"

ClaireB asks, "doesn't one have to be a little insane just to want to be in politics?"

DafneG says, "he takes pills for his mental illness"

JacquiCy says, "I was wondering around the site and lost my connection."

DafneG says, "said by psychiatrists"

SheilaHua has connected.

ChrisHua has connected.

DafneG says, "the whole country is paralized and he denies the success of the strike"

SusanneN says, "In my early youth, I thought politics would be part of my life, but I soon was so disappointed by what I experienced that I decided to live otherwise and not waste time with inside party political strides"

SheilaHua leaves for the 8th.

SheilaHua's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the 8th.

ClaireB [to VanceS]: "thanks for agreeing to join our TESOL group"

MargaretD asks, "Chavez was elected by a majority or?"

ChrisHua leaves for the 8th.

ChrisHua's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the 8th.

DafneG says, "yes, he was, because people believed his populist discourse"

DafneG says, "but nowadays 80% of the population opposes him"

SusanneN says, "In Denmark, we do have a suspect party leading our country for that last year, and so many changes are taking place."

MargaretD asks, "and now he is taking advantage of that mahndate?"

DafneG says, "and that's why he does not want to go to elections"

VanceS [to Claire]: "my pleasure"

ClaireB says, "it seems to me that sooner or later the majority will force Cavex to have an election, if that big a majority opposes him"

ClaireB [to VanceB]: "it won't be a pleasure, but it may keep the central office happy"

MargaretD says, "let's hope so"

DafneG says, "yes, that's why people are in the streets"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] wonders if glria is still here ..s BJB [HelpDesk], SusanneN, MargaretD, ClaireB, DafneG, and JacquiCy.

SusanneN says, "No gloria left long ago from here"

DafneG says, "all the refineries have stopped working so oil is not being sent anywhere"

MargaretD says, "poor Bush then too"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "too bad, there is Xstarkiki in Yahoo on web cam if anyone wants to meet her"

SusanneN says, "Your country is in a terrible dilemma, Daf"

DafneG says, "yes, Sus"

ClaireB says, "nice to see all of you; gotta run"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ClaireB has disconnected.

SusanneN says, "This is one more reason to have local energy power supplies instead of relying at petrol"

DafneG says, "yeap"

MargaretD says, "he oil money should go to the people like in Norway"

DafneG says, "but cars won't be able to work without gas, and that will definitely stop all commercial activities"

SusanneN [to VanceS]: "I'd love to see xstarkiki on her webcam - but I do need an invitation from her, I asked for it and she did not seem to get my demand"

SusanneN says, "yes, cars are vital"

MargaretD says, "trucks are more important"

DafneG says, "food cannot be transported"

SusanneN says, "Maggi, yes, of course, trucks are not cars :-)"

DafneG says, "besides, most truck drivers are in strike"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "she was having trouble with her connection and my yahoo just crashed"

MargaretD says, "doesn't look good"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I got a pic so you can meet her there"

MargaretD says, "rural people will be better ofrf"

SusanneN says, "Ok, Vance :-)"

MargaretD says, "city people will have it hard"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I am really concerned about the world situation and the huge mistakes politicians are making"

DafneG says, "maybe, Maggi"

DafneG says, "that's right Vance"

SusanneN asks, "Daf, are city shops being plundered, like it often happen in chaotic riots?"

SusanneN says, "Vance, I am so concerned, too"

DafneG says, "no, Sus, because what the population wants is a pacific way out of this"

Gloria has connected.

DafneG says, "the protests are pacific"

SusanneN says, "Hi gloria"

DafneG says, "hi gloria"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Hi Gloria, is this the Gloria here earlier?"

SusanneN [to DafneG]: "yes, you're right, that is better if there is no cirme or violence to blame people for"

MargaretD says, "peaceful is a better woerd"

DafneG says, "the only violence comes from the government, the militars and the paramilitars armed by the government"

Gloria [guest] says, "Hi,.. Something occured and I had to reestart my computer."

Gloria [guest] says, "Now apears that Yahoo is running.."

SusanneN says, "I fear that we are already expe is world war 3 in different places and stages"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "we can try again"

SusanneN . o O ( experiencing ww3 )

tina has connected.

CandyL has connected.

SusanneN exclaims, "Hi Tina!"

tina [guest] suddenly disappears.

Gloria [guest] says, "I think so.."

CandyL leaves for the El.

CandyL's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] agrees with Susanne "and the last thing America or the world needs is a war with Iraq"

SusanneN asks, "gloria, you're glofialho in YMS , right?"

DafneG says, "brb"

SusanneN nods sadly to Vance

Gloria [guest] says, "Yes, I only don know how to use the messenger ywet"

ConnieChe has connected.

SusanneN smiles at Connie in her carnival costume

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "to me, whether you shoot civilians from buildings or bomb them from high flying aircraft or shoot at their houses from helicoptor gunships or blow up their buses it's all the same"

ConnieChe [wearing fang and cloak/] says, "hello~~everyone"

SusanneN says, "Gloria, stay here in this window, too, and we mighht guide you to manage YMS"

Gloria [guest] says, "Il appreciate"

ConnieChe [wearing fang and cloak/] leaves for the 8th.

ConnieChe's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the 8th.

SusanneN [to Gloria [guest]]: "Did you add my name to your friends list; it is susannenyrop"

SusanneN agree totally with Vance

Gloria [guest] says, "I didn yet."

MargaretD asks, "the same what Vance?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "the same mentality, the same crime"

SusanneN says, "all the same, it is all violent warfare or terrorism"

MargaretD says, "I see"

VeronicaL has connected.

VeronicaL leaves for the El.

VeronicaL's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the El.

MargaretD asks, "what is the difference between terrorists and freedom fighters?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "we've got gloria, adriana, susanne and I in web cam yahoo now"

SusanneN . o O ( We're now in Yahoo, too )

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "that's easy Maggi, terrorists are on their side, freedom fighters are on yours"

MargaretD asks, "oh reallly?"

SusanneN laughs sarcastically

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "what's the diff between strapping a bomb on your body and strapping one to your helicopter gunship, eitehr way you kill a dozen innocents"

MargaretD asks, "and what were those peole who fought the British rule in the U# in the 1700's?"

SusanneN agree with maggi, this is a very complex question

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "excellent example, and how do them compare with modern combattants?"

MargaretD says, "the weapons"

Avana has connected.

MargaretD says, "the principles behind the cause"

Avana [guest] says, "hello, everyone"

MargaretD says, "the circumstances and nditions leading up to conflict"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Hi, Avana"

Gloria [guest] says, "the conference is not working now in my computer. Idont know whi.."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "If you take both those, principles and weapons, then would you say freedom fighters were Israelis or Palestinians?"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] asks, "Or Iraqis or Americans?"

SusanneN says, "Oh, poor Gloria, we need patience to make these tools work for us :-)"

SusanneN says, "The confilct between Israel and Palestine is hopelessly complicated through years of sad history"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_147 [guest] has disconnected.

Gloria [guest] says, "Yes, but next time Il be more experient I think.."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "It's ok gloria, we all get it bit by bit"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "we can try again next week"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "or next Sat, 8 a.m. GMT, Ismail and I will be trying to reach you from Egypt"

Gloria [guest] says, "By the way, I need to learn the meaning of these sign ": -)"

JacquiCy says, "I will adjourn at this point. I have been online for 2 hours (it's nearly 8:00 a.m.)..."

Avana has connected.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "two eyes : a nose - and a mouth ) smiling"

JacquiCy says, "I would very much like to attend another session."

SusanneN says, "I'll join you in Egypt witt Ismael for the Egyptesol conference, vance"

JacquiCy says, "You are a very friendly group."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "yes, me too, I must go home"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "I hope you will join us at 8 a.m GMT Saturday"

BJB [to Jacqui]: "you might want to check the calendar at the top of your screen"

SusanneN says, "I need to get offline soon, too"

BJB . o O ( lots of discussions take place here that you might enjoy )

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "also there are people here 16:00 GMT Sat"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "and noon GMT sunday, all webheads"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_57 [guest] has disconnected.

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "plus the other discussions as BJB mentions"

MargaretD says, "I don't live there and don't have enough knowlege of the situation as it actually is to make a judgement call"

SusanneN says, "Jacqui , did you have a good connection today? I found you've been very silent"

JacquiCy says, "Thank you folks. I will check the calendar for other times when I can join, now that the semester has ended for me."

BJB . o O ( the times on the calendar are PST, Jacqui )

SusanneN says, "I Saturday at 16 GMT is our new hour"

JacquiCy says, "Yes. The connection was fine. I started wandering around the site and didn't realize that my connection had been severed."

SusanneN says, "Oh"

Gloria [guest] says, "I have to go now, people are asking for lunch here.. Thanks for all and for invite-me to the conference room. I study the softwre and next time will be better."

SusanneN says, "We will put up our chatlog at the homepage some time"

MargaretD says, "bye Gloria"

SusanneN exclaims, "Bye Gloria, so noce to meet you!"

JacquiCy says, "Adios."

Avana has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] waves bye to Gloria

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "wb, Avana"

Avana [guest] leaves for the El.

Gloria [guest] says, "By margareth and susanne ald all of you.."

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "bye al, I'll be going shortly"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "nice to see everyone"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_177 [guest] has disconnected.

SusanneN says, "I need to have some coffee with pancakes, hubby is calling me :-)"

BJB [HelpDesk] goes to do some chores

BJB looks away.

SusanneN says, "Bye bye, all of you"

You hear a quiet popping sound; JacquiCy has disconnected.

MargaretD says, "bye"

VanceS [the friendly webhead] says, "bye all"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SusanneN has disconnected.

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [the friendly webhead] has disconnected.

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