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Webheads chat logs from September 1, 2002

Teresa, Rita, and Vance - Venny and his two daughters

More web cam shots: Vance and Juani | Vance, Juani, Teresa, and Rita | Michael's view of Teresa, Vance, Juani, Venny and one of his daughter's

Tapped In

Started recording in Reception (#268)[TappedIn] at Sun Sep 1 04:34:33 2002 PDT.

VanceS [webcamming] lands in a heap

VanceS [webcamming] wonders if Jeff is here for Webheads

TeresaAlm has arrived.

TeresaAlm's personal recorder follows TeresaAlm to here.

TeresaAlm says, "hi, vance! long time no see."

TeresaAlm says, "vance, will be back in about an hour."

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "Hi Tere, still there?"

TeresaAlm asks, "vance, are you there?"

VanceS [webcamming] wakes up with a start

TeresaAlm says, "good."

TeresaAlm asks, "how was your vacation?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, nice to see you"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "excellent, ready for another"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "me too!!!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I've got my web cam up but I haven't switched it on yet"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "Where did you go?"

TeresaAlm says, "i've just changed my hard disk and am setting up everything."

TeresaAlm exclaims, "i went to the algarve and then to minho, in the north. beautiful!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "ok, if you need some time it's a quarter hour before we really begin (if then)"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Portugal is a beautiful country"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "it used to be very relaxed and cheap"

TeresaAlm asks, "thank you! can i ask for some advice about christine's invitation?"

You hear a quiet popping sound; JeffC has lost his link.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "sure"

TeresaAlm asks, "as far as i understand, the training is to become a moderartor like you, or am i wrong?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yes, I had access to the same sort of thing on my way to becoming a moderator"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "it's for people who have volunteered to give a session, and to show them a few tricks of the trade"

TeresaAlm says, "well, what kind of a group would i be involved in? is there an idea in store? because i haven't volunteered."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "in my case, it will be to introduce them to the community of webheads and 'teach' thru example"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "that's why i was quite put off with the invitation!"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "are you considering moderating a session or helping with the training?"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "i didn't consider anything. the invitation came up 'out of the blue'!"

TeresaAlm says, "maybe i'd consider helping with the training, but i don't really know what that involves."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "you might have been recommended based on your exemplary showing this past year"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'll be calling on all webheads to help with the training"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "voluntarily"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "you could team with me, Chris Jones has also offered to help"

TeresaAlm says, "wow, vance. thank you for such praise, but it's too much."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm sure Daf will join us, maybe some others"

TeresaAlm says, "well, that would be a great idea. i'd love that."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "whoever is lucky enough to have us as trainers will be introduced to webheads and given suggestions on how to accomplish something similar"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "within the framework of whatever it is they want to do in their session"

TeresaAlm says, "yes. it would be very interesting and maybe i'd gain confidence into doing something on my own in future."

Judy has connected.

TeresaAlm says, "maybe something more in the area of email, since i already have so many materials and my upcoming book."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I recall that we were asked at the end of last session if there was anyone we thought would like to conduct a session"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "whom we had met in the course of our encounters"

TeresaAlm says, "i don't remember, to be honest."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I mean the session moderators were asked"

TeresaAlm says, "ok."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "so I guess you were invited to moderate a session"

Judy [guest] says, "Hi! I am taking a course through CU in multiple intelligences, and this is one of our sorces. so I am looking around"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "the call has gone out at any rate"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Judy"

TeresaAlm says, "hi, judy. i'm teresa in portugal."

MargaretD arrives from nowhere.

MargaretD's personal recorder follows MargaretD to here.

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "CU Calgary? California?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Maggi"

MargaretD says, "hi"

Judy [guest] says, "Hi, Vance. What can you tell me about this site? Hi TresaAlm."

Juani has connected.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Juani"

Judy [guest] says, "Hello, Juani."

TeresaAlm says, "vance, just to conclude: maybe i should let christine know that i'd like to help you and not carry out a session on my own, maybe just in 2004."

MargaretD says, "Hi Juane"

Juani [guest] says, "hi everybody...it early morning here"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "You've reached Tapped in which is a place where educators and students interact"

TeresaAlm says, "hi, juani and marge."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "and this is a Webheads session starting and you're welcome to join us"

BJB has arrived.

BJ's Shadow follows BJB to here.

Juani [guest] says, "thanks..."

BJB [away] waves hi to everyone

VanceS [to Teresa]: "That would be fine, I can use the help"

Judy [guest] says, "Hi, everyone."

MargaretD says, "Hi BJB"

VanceS [to Teresa]: "and would appreciate it in fact"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "hi, bj! nice to see you again, my friend!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi BJ"

BJB drops 2002/09/01 Webheads (recording).

BJB . o O ( hope I didn't miss too much )

VanceS [webcamming] claps for BJ

TeresaAlm [to VanceS]: "so that's what i'll do. and thanks for the trust."

VanceS [to Teresa,]: "ok you're on, we'll organize it later"

TeresaAlm [to VanceS]: "i'll be back in a while."

You hear a quiet popping sound; TeresaAlm has disconnected.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "ok, Teresa is setting up a new hard drive in Portugal"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_151 [guest] has disconnected.

MargaretD says, "fun"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm in Abu Dhabi, Maggi is in Germany, BJ in PA, Juani in Chile ..."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Juani has her web cam on and I'm about to broadcast mine"

juani... has connected.

juani... [guest] says, "I was down for a while"

BJB [away] says, "wb, Juani"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "hi Juani, I see you on your web cam and have mine up"

BJB [away] says, "I see Judy is here, too"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "You need more light on you"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "that's perfect"

juani... [guest] says, "thanks.."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "if anyone has Yahoo Messenger they can see us"

PhilH has arrived.

Morphic Resonance follows PhilH to here.

PhilH [sleepy] waves to all.

BJB [away] cheers for the bright eyed Phil

PhilH [sleepy] says, "hi vance"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Phil"

BJB looks HelpDesk.

PhilH [sleepy] hugs BJB [HelpDesk].

MargaretD says, "Hi Phil"

VanceS [webcamming] exclaims, "You made it outta bed!"

BJB [HelpDesk] hands Phil a pot of coffee

PhilH [sleepy] hugs margaret.

PhilH [sleepy] says, "hi margaret"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Juani must be cold, she has a sweater on"

MargaretD says, "lol"

PhilH [sleepy] slurps coffee.

juani... [guest] says, "yes,it very cold here"

juani... [guest] says, "and the stove is on next to me"

MargaretD says, "I can use or receive webcam with a firewall"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_111 [guest] has disconnected.

MargaretD says, "can NOT"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, I see it"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "so, back home in Chile?"

juani... [guest] says, "yes,back in Chile..and missing the US"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "so you enjoyed it?"

juani... [guest] says, "yes,very much ansd i could work with no problems"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "Maybe you can find work up there, are you trying?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Great opportunity to get a Fulbright grant"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "also competitive, isn't it?"

juani... [guest] says, "no yet..yes theres a lot of work for bilingual people"

juani... [guest] says, "yes,I was very fortunate to be a Fulbright Exchange"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "It says below my web cam that there are no viewers"

ShunI arrives from nowhere.

Shun's Recorder follows ShunI to here.

BJB [HelpDesk] bows to Shun

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Shun"

ShunI says, "Long time no see, Vance."

PhilH [sleepy] says, "Hi Shun"

ShunI says, "Hi, Phil."

juani... [guest] says, "Hi Shun"

ShunI says, "juani, hello."

MargaretD says, "Hi Shun"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "You can see me and Juani on Yahoo web cams if you wish"

ShunI says, "Hi, Margaret."

juani... [guest] asks, "How can I see the others ?"

PhilH [sleepy] pulls up a comfy chair and slurps more coffee.

PhilH [sleepy] says, "I am not webcamming, sorry. Vance I only saw your email this morning."

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "In the list of contacts in Yahoo, does it say 'view my webcam' next to my name?"

BJB [HelpDesk] nods to Vance...I see that

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "Do you use Yahoo Messenger, Phil?"

BJB [to Juani]: "what is your yahoo messenger name?"

VanceS [to BJB]: "do you see one next to Juani?"

PhilH [to VanceS]: "haven't used it so far."

juani... [guest] says, "juani5chile"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "If you want to view our webcams you need to launch Yahoo"

PhilH [to VanceS]: "haven't webcammed for over a year now, either so would need to set it up."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "the messenger that it"

MargaretD . o O ( Phil really slept in today )

VanceS [webcamming] says, "that is"

juani... [guest] says, "I have yahoo on"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "You can probably view the web cams without any setup"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "Am I in your list, Juani?"

PhilH [sleepy] says, "oh, ok I will check it out in a sec."

MargaretD says, "not with a firewall though"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I must be, ..."

PhilH [to MargaretD]: "it is only 5 A.M here."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Maggi is correct, some firewalls might block it"

juani... [guest] says, "I only had Vance on my list"

MargaretD asks, "oh, where are you then Phi?"

PhilH [to MargaretD]: "Victoria, British Columbia :)"

juani... [guest] says, "when I was in Colorado I could use yahoo msn even with firewalls"

MargaretD asks, "on holiday?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "5 a.m. that's dedication"

MargaretD says, "mine blocks it Juani"

BJB [to VanceS]: "I see Yuani, but I'm still waiting for permission to view yours"

juani... [guest] says, "oh..that bad Maggi"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "thanks for the heads up BJ, I uncovered the window and granted"

BJB [HelpDesk] exclaims, "oh, there's that handsome Vance!"

VanceS [webcamming] exclaims, "where? I want to see that!"

juani... [guest] says, "I haven seen Vance yet"

VanceS . o O ( is there another vance here? )

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'll invite you Juani"

PhilH [to BJB]: "what is the web address to view the page you are looking at?"

BJB [to Phil]: "do you have yahoo messenger?"

PhilH [to BJB]: "nope"

juani... [guest] says, "now I see you very clearly"

PhilH [to BJB]: "I have a spiffy firewall too ... probably will cause me grief."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Juani just went off the air"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "Do you have Mac or PC Phil?"

PhilH [to Vance,]: "PC clone"

BJB [HelpDesk] nods sadly to Vance. Bring that beautiful smile back, Juani!

VanceS [webcamming] exclaims, "BJB is so complimentary this morning!"

BJB [HelpDesk] exclaims, "I haven't 'seen' you all for a long time....it's exciting!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "You could download Yahoo Messenger in a jiff, Phil"

MargaretD asks, "and she isn't normally?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Assuming you have a Yahoo account that is"

PhilH [sleepy] nods to Vance.

RitaZ has connected.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Sunday morning Phil, take it slow"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "here comes Rita logging in"

PhilH [to VanceS]: "well I did have but I think I need to open a new one."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Rita"

juani... [guest] says, "Hola Rita...."

BJB [HelpDesk] hugs Rita

MargaretD says, "Hi Rita"

RitaZ exclaims, "Hi, Vance, good day, Webheads!"

PhilH [sleepy] waves to Rita.

BJB [to Rita]: "I'd like to mention the article MichaelC talked about in the TI newsletter...is that ok?"

PhilH [sleepy] settles into comfy chair (glad he doesn't have to download Yahoo messenger right away).

VennyS has arrived.

Parrot follows VennyS to here.

VennyS [: )] bows gracefully.

PhilH [sleepy] says, "Hiya Venny"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Venny"

BJB [to Phil]: "this herding cats technique can be a little overwhelming sometimes...between the TI window, webcam windows and chat windows!"

RitaZ says, "Hi, Venny"

BJB [HelpDesk] bows to Venny

VennyS [: )] says, "Hello, nice to see you;)"

PhilH [sleepy] grabs a wandering kitten and hand it to BJB [HelpDesk].

VanceS [webcamming] says, "hi, I just invited venny and Rita to webcamworld"

VennyS [: )] grins at VanceS [webcamming].

VennyS . o O ( are you talking about TI2? )

BJB [to VennyS]: "no, we're not"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "grins at Venny, live and on webcam"

VanceS . o O ( TI2?? )

VennyS [: )] saw a cute Vance with nauty geatures

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm going to shut my web cam off a second"

BJB [to VennyS]: "btw, TI2, version one will not be capable of handling languages other than single bit characters"

BJB . o O ( if I have that bit thing correct )

VanceS [webcamming] says, "let my internet connection catch up"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves bye to Vance's image

VennyS [to BJB]: "ohh :("

VanceS [webcamming] says, "brb (on web cam)"

VennyS [to BJB]: "I suppose TI2 will deal with all languages."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I paused it"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "maybe that will help"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "eventually, it may, Venny. It's an expensive part to develop."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yes, I think it does"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "ok, I'll restart it"

VennyS [to VanceS]: "Nice pose :)"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, I think the trick is to pause it now and then"

RitaZ exclaims, "can CU well, Vance!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Next week at this time I'll be at a conference at the university next door"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I guess you all know about that"

BJB [to VanceS]: "you should send a message to meetme about that event"

RitaZ asks, "we are supposed to do as we are doing now, showing abilities, Vance?"

juani... [guest] exclaims, "oh....thatl be great!"

BJB [HelpDesk] wonders if Vance is registered to the meetme maillist?

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "meetme? What is that?"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "that is the TAPPED IN general mail list"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Yeah, there might be some people from the conference in Tapped IN"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "if you send me a short blurb, I can post it for you"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'll b/cast from the conference site"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "did you get my email to Webheads, BJ?"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "is that the kind of blurb?"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Yes, I did see that. Yes, that's what I need, but a little shorter, please"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "ok, I'll knock out the articles and prepositions, hang on ..."

RitaZ says, "by next session Daf we'll already be here, so she'll join us"

AidenY has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] hugs Maggi and holds on for dear life

AidenY says, "hello everyone"

BJB [HelpDesk] exclaims, "Hi, Aiden. Welcome!"

RitaZ exclaims, "hi, Aiden!"

MargaretD says, "lol...Hi Aiden"

AidenY says, "hello BJB, Rita"

AidenY says, "Hi Margaret"

juani... [guest] says, "hello Aiden"

PhilH [sleepy] says, "Hi Aiden"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Aiden"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I've just unpaused my web cam on the occasion of your arrival"

AidenY says, "Juani, Phil and Vance, hello"

VanceS [to BJB]: "email address please?"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "bjb@tappedin.org"

MargaretD . o O ( must be full of hot air...:-) )

AidenY says, "really.."

TeresaAlm has arrived.

TeresaAlm's personal recorder follows TeresaAlm to here.

AidenY says, "Hi, Teresa"

BJB [HelpDesk] hugs Teresa

RitaZ exclaims, "Hi, Tere!"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "ugs, everyone! long time no see!"

PhilH [sleepy] waves to Teresa.

juani... [guest] says, "Hi.Its good to see you"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "vance, good to see you!"

VanceS [to BJB]: "did you get the blurb?"

juani... [guest] asks, "who else has a webcam? or do you have a mic?"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Just checked...not yet, Vance"

PhilH looks uncammy.

BJB [HelpDesk] smirks at Phil

PhilH [uncammy] grins.

BJB [to VanceS]: "just arrived...give me a sec to look"

RitaZ [to Juani]: "have you got your cam on?"

BJB [to VanceS]: "looks good. I'll post to meet me and to the TI foreign lang list"

juani... [guest] says, "yes.Rita it on"

juani... [guest] asks, "do you have yours?"

AidenY says, "I am catching up my my mails and am reading Sus mail, Dafne won the NW2002 art competition"

RitaZ says, "yes, Juani"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Rita's web cam gave me an invalid token :-("

RitaZ asks, "what's that, Vance?"

juani... [guest] asks, "what your email address?"

VennyS . o O ( NW2002!? )

VanceS [webcamming] says, "don't know, I'll try again in a minute"

MargaretD says, "I just had company arrive o have to go"

ShunI goes home.

MargaretD exclaims, "enjoy all!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "for tere's it's asking me to update my software"

TeresaAlm says, "bye, marge"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "so I guess I'll do that"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "thanks Maggi"

RitaZ asks, "I think you need my ID on Yahoo, am I right , Vance?"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MargaretD has disconnected.

juani... [guest] says, "Bye maggi"

juani... [guest] says, "yes..mine is juani5chile"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "nice to see you again, tschuss"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I've got it, Rita ... I'll shut down, get the latest version of messenger, and brb"

juani... [guest] exclaims, "Hi Rita.nice to meet you!"

RitaZ says, "I think I'll have to do the same as Vance, get the layest version of Yahoo M"

RitaZ says, "latest"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "do you want me to /show you this? The meeting on Sept 8 will be part of this event:"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "e-Merging e-Learning Conference at Higher Colleges of Technology Men's College, Abu Dhabi, UAE,"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "http://www.admc.hct.ac.ae/admcinternet/eeconfe rence/ee2002/Program.asp"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "A visit with Webheads online community of practice for language learners and teachers, noon"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "GMT, Sunday September 8, 2002. Abstract: Writing for Webheads is an ongoing 'experiment in"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "world friendship through online language learning' whose participants have been meeting weekly"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "online for almost 4 years now. During that time, Webheads have experimented with numerous"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "synchronous and web-based multimedia communications formats, and presented at several live and"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "online conference venues. More recently, the community has formally expanded to embrace"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "language teaching professionals in a community of practice called Webheads in Action. These"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "communities come together online every Sunday for a regular session held at about the time of"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "this demonstration. Therefore we have an opportunity at this session to convene members of the"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "community online to demonstrate 'live' our use of free and easily accessible text, video, and"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "voice enhanced synchronous communications technologies, while showing co."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "---------------------------------------------- ---------------------"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "We have presented at such events often in the past, though it is a unique opportunity for us to"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "be able to do what we usually do at the time we usually do it before a live audience."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm not sure of the format for this event. At first I was told I would have my laptop at the"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "front of a presentation room (you'd see the audience via my web cam and they would see you and"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "hear you via my broadcast). But more recently I was told they would try to give us a computer"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "lab. We have to work out details, but there could be many visitors from Abu Dhabi to this"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "session, or it might be just me putting webheads in touch with a live audience."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "In preparation, at our chat noon GMT Sunday Sept 1, I'd like to encourage participants to use"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "voice and web cams. This will help us to practice and work out bugs, and will also be"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "interesting to our newcomers."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "To participate you don't need a web cam or a microphone - but if you have Yahoo Messenger you"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "will be able to look and listen, and perhaps talk back if you can. We meet as usual at"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "http://www.tappedin.org and the chat takes place there, with those of us wishing to use voice"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "and web cam doing that at the same time we are at Tapped In."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "woops"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "sorry"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "that was the message to bjb"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "how embarrassing"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'll try again ..."

PhilH [uncammy] turns on auto speed text absorber and go into a trance.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "offering to /show rita this url

http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/i ndex.html"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "so sorry everyone"

PhilH [uncammy] grins.

RitaZ exclaims, "can CU, Juani!"

PhilH [uncammy] says, "np, Vance."

BJB [to VanceS]: "that is what you just emailed me?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "no, that was the long version"

BJB . o O ( hard to read with all the broken text )

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "ok...let me scroll back"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "that's what I copied into my email to you and altered"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "it was still in my buffer when I meant to paste the url"

TeresaAlm [to VanceS]: "and rita if this is of any help, i downloaded yahoo mess an hour ago, because i jus upgraded my hard disk."

TeresaAlm says, "i went to the site, clicked on messenger (bottom of page) and proceeded."

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "where are the active x settings in IE, anyone know?"

RitaZ says, "thanks, Tere"

BJB [to VanceS]: "you have a line in the blurb that I don't understand: text, video, and voice enhanced synchronous communications technologies, while showing co."

BJB . o O ( what is co? )

VanceS [webcamming] says, "must be a typo, checking ..."

PhilH [to VanceS]: "under tools menu I think"

BJB . o O ( it's in both versions, Vance )

PhilH [to VanceS]: "Internet options, advanced?"

VanceS [to Bj]: "... while showing conference delegates around the Webheads community."

BJB [HelpDesk] nods

PhilH [to VanceS]: "and under security, or did you find it already?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "not yet, looking ..."

PhilH [to VanceS]: "well allowing them is under security."

PhilH [to VanceS]: "or not allowing them as the case may be."

juani... [guest] asks, "are you all using chat voice?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm still downloading the new Yahoo"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I want to use voice next week"

RitaZ asks, "can we try it, VancE?"

juani... [guest] says, "Yeap..I hope to be here .."

PhilH [to VanceS]: "to summarize, Tools, Internet Options, Security, Custom Level ..."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "the Yahoo download is 26% there, taking its time"

juani... [guest] asks, "you mean we should update our version ?"

VanceS [to Phil,]: "thanks, I see it, the first item there"

RitaZ says, "I got a warning telling me so, but then I could see you all"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I was not able to see either Rita or Tere on web cam and it told me I had to upgrade"

juani... [guest] says, "ah..yeap I haven met Teresa yet"

TeresaAlm says, "vance, i saw you before you started upgrading."

RitaZ says, "neither have I"

PhilH looks afk.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I just closed everything but tapped in and Yahoo"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "into the 40's now"

TeresaAlm says, "juani, i just sent you an invitation to view my webcam."

RitaZ asks, "Tere? can I see your cam?"

juani... [guest] says, "it also told me to update my version"

TeresaAlm says, "rita, i just did the same for you."

juani... [guest] says, "so ..I doing it"

RitaZ says, "thanks, tere, there iam"

juani... [guest] says, "it s funny"

TeresaAlm asks, "rita, can i see yours?"

RitaZ exclaims, "ah...it says :using incorrect software...?!"

RitaZ says, "yes, Tere, please give me your ID"

juani... [guest] says, "its like they want to sell you the latest version"

TeresaAlm says, "it's teca2002pt"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "or give it away"

juani... [guest] asks, "and no other gentlemam apart from vance with webcam?"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "there you are, rita! nice to see you!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm 58% installed"

RitaZ says, "thanks, Tere"

RitaZ says, "cant see you, beside your name it says"not at my desk""

PhilH looks like he's back at the keyboard..

TeresaAlm asks, "rita, who can't you see?"

RitaZ says, "you, tere"

TeresaAlm asks, "i wonder why. let me repeat the invitation, ok?"

TeresaAlm asks, "there you are, juani! great to see you! can you see me?"

VennyS [to TeresaAlm]: "invite me;)"

juani... [guest] exclaims, "no yet!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "76% .. 78 ..."

RitaZ asks, "using incorrect version of software" it says, how come I can see everyone else?"

juani... [guest] says, "you should invite me to view your webcam"

MichaelAC has connected.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "this has never taken so long ..."

juani... [guest] says, "it Sunday.remenber"

MichaelAC says, "Hi everyone"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Michael, saw you on MSN but had to shut it down"

TeresaAlm says, "juani, i just sent you another invitation."

juani... [guest] says, "Hi Michael"

RitaZ exclaims, "Welcomw, Mike!"

PhilH says, "Hi Michael"

TeresaAlm asks, "rita, did you get my invitation?"

BJB [HelpDesk] waves to Michael

You hear a quiet popping sound; AidenY has disconnected.

juani... [guest] says, "it says my version is incorrect.again"

RitaZ says, "yes, Tere, but it says "using incorrect version of software", how come I can"

RitaZ says, "see everyone else?""

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I had version 5 before"

MichaelAC says, "I don't have a webcam but who can I see on camera at the moment. I already have Rita"

juani... [guest] exclaims, "youre probably on the next century with yours!"

juani... [guest] says, "you can see me.....juani5"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I kept refusing invitations to upgrade and finally it stopped asking me (91%)"

juani... [guest] says, "juani5chile"

TeresaAlm asks, "michael, can i have your yahooid?"

MichaelAC asks, "Is that with Yahoo Juani?"

juani... [guest] says, "yes.."

MichaelAC says, "My Yahoo Id is mikecogh"

TeresaAlm says, "thanks."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "99%"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "done, setting up"

RitaZ says, "Michael, I wanted to ask you, but it says you are not online....(?)"

TeresaAlm asks, "rita and juani, can you see me?"

RitaZ says, "no, Tere"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "uh oh, downloading Yahoo companion integration"

RitaZ asks, "ah...that may be ,Vanne, kind of complement we need?"

RitaZ says, "Vance, sorry"

juani... [guest] says, "no..that not necessary"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "got version 5.5 here"

MichaelAC says, "Teresa - can I have your ID? I coudn't accept you for some reason"

juani... [guest] says, "Teresa i cant see you"

TeresaAlm says, "teca2002pt, michael."

TeresaAlm says, "i wonder why you and rita can't see me."

MichaelAC says, "Thanks Teresa - I'll try it"

RitaZ says, "we, Juani, seem not to be able to see Tere, for some reason"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I got teresa, started b'casting, and then it bombed"

juani... [guest] says, "that s strange"

VennyS [: )] is downloading

TeresaAlm says, "i can't see you yet, vance."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, just logging back on"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "it crashed"

juani... [guest] says, "Ive seen you up and down ,Vance"

NigelC has arrived.

Peter Quince follows NigelC to here.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "my own web cam viewer is huge here"

BJB [HelpDesk] chortles...now my version of software is incorrect and I can't see you, Vance! Talk about herding cats!

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "hi, Nigel"

NigelC says, "boo"

MichaelAC asks, "For both Vance and Teresa I get 'using incorrect version of software' message. Please update bit says. Update yahoo or IE?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "oh boy, Yahoo got us on this one"

TeresaAlm says, "i think it's yahoo, michael."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "The picture display is larger than before"

juani... [guest] says, "it reminds me when I participated with Nueva Alejandria in something similar"

VennyS [: )] is installing

TeresaAlm says, "you can make it smaller, vance. go to webcam menu."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, I'm looking for that setting"

juani... [guest] says, "to this and we were using different tools to communicate and show a bi audience the use of internet"

juani... [guest] says, "that was two years ago at least.."

MichaelAC asks, "I have Yahoo 5,0,0, 1066 - is that OK?"

NigelC says, "1066? they're pulling your leg"

TeresaAlm says, "vance, it's in the webcam window, webcam menu."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "there I found it"

MichaelAC laughs at Nigel

VennyS [to MichaelAC]: "5.5"

NigelC says, "them normans sure were clever, Michael"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Hi Nigel, we're in webcam limbo at the moment"

RitaZ exclaims, "I've got the same as Michael!"

NigelC says, "so I gather, Vance"

TeresaAlm says, "vance, just sent an ivitation."

VennyS [to MichaelAC]: "download the 5.5"

MichaelAC says, "And (to Nigel) so long ago too."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm requesting access to Juani at the moment"

NigelC says, "oh I don't have yahoo messenger installed on this computer"

MichaelAC says, "OK Venny - I will look for 5.5"

You hear a quiet popping sound; TeresaAlm has disconnected.

VennyS [to MichaelAC]: "You can find it on yahoo messenger web page"

NigelC says, "my computer finally gave up accessing the internet last week so we're using my flatmate's and trying to install as little software as possible"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "I still get "using incorrect version of Software. Please update your software."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I've got Teresa's web cam"

RitaZ says, "but maybe we should do that later, Michael, if not itll take long"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "Juani, can you grant permission?"

MichaelAC says, "Good point Rita"

TeresaAlm has connected.

juani... [guest] says, "it says the same to me again when trying to view Vance"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MichaelAC has disconnected.

RitaZ says, "is it Yahoo, then"

TeresaAlm says, "got logged off."

MichaelAC has connected.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "ok, I've got Tere and Juani on my screen"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "good. don't we llok nice?!!!"

MichaelAC says, "And they're the 2 I can't see"

RitaZ says, "so you have version 5.5, Vance, now"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "and waiting for permission from Rita"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yes, I do"

TeresaAlm says, "but i can't see you, vance."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "There's Rita"

RitaZ says, "now Vance is in another dimension ;-)"

RitaZ says, "we cant see him"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MichaelAC has disconnected.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I just invited Tere"

TeresaAlm says, "now i see you, vance."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "and granted permission to Rita"

MichaelAC has connected.

juani... [guest] says, "let see if it works for me"

RitaZ says, "definitely we need to download the new version, I could see Vance with my old one, not now"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "same here, Rita"

VennyS [: )] finished installation:)

TeresaAlm says, "rita nad juani, maybe that's why you don't see me."

RitaZ says, "yes, Tere"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "I see Juani, but can't get Vance"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah we're caught in the cycle of endless upgrade now"

VennyS [: )] saw Ritaz :)

RitaZ says, "good that we have checked this today"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "have you got 5.5 BJ?"

VanceS [webcamming] exclaims, "that's right Rita!"

VennyS [: )] says, "I got 5.5"

VennyS [: )] says, "and can see RitaZ, Vance and Teresa"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "are you able to see me ok Venny?"

RitaZ says, "so we all need top have that ready for next Sunday"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "don't know what version I have"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I've just got two viewers"

juani... [guest] says, "mine is 5.0"

RitaZ says, "thats why, Juani, mine too"

TeresaAlm asks, "bj, can i have your yahoo id?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "pull down Help BJ and the version is under About ..."

VennyS [: )] says, "Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/"

BJB [to Tere]: "bj_berquist"

MichaelAC says, "I've taken the plunge and am installing 5.5"

VennyS [: )] says, "Download the 5.5 version"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "I have 5.0"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_167 [guest] has disconnected.

TeresaAlm asks, "venny, can you invite me to see your webcam?"

PhilH [to VanceS]: "I have now signed up with yahoo and installed messenger though my web cam is not hooked up, can I still view the others?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Yes you can Phil"

MichaelAC says, "I think so Phil"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "what's your ID and we'll invite you"

PhilH says, "my id is phil_s_harrison"

PhilH says, "got to update my contact info here"

juani has connected.

VennyS [to PhilH]: "yep, you can"

juani [guest] says, "back again"

TeresaAlm asks, "phil, can you see me?"

juani [guest] says, "not me"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I invited you Phil"

RitaZ [to VanceS]: "we need to delete version 5 first, dont we?"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "wb, Juani"

TeresaAlm asks, "let me check things: who can see me?"

PhilH says, "oops I screwed up on one of these info screens"

MichaelAC says, "Version 5.5 will install over the old version automatically"

juani [guest] says, "no..I think we could just update"

juani [guest] says, "yes...but it takes some time"

RitaZ exclaims, "thanks, Michael!"

PhilH asks, "do I have to fill in the contact info for each person when they invite me ... who's info goes in there, mine or theirs?"

RitaZ asks, "update, Juani?"

juani [guest] says, "just add as a frind witht he ID"

MichaelAC says, "No Phil - not necessary"

TeresaAlm says, "i don't do it, phil. i just add the yahoo id."

juani [guest] says, "as friend,sorry"

TeresaAlm asks, "vance, can you see me?"

MichaelAC exclaims, "friend or frind - no matter!"

VennyS [: )] says, "let me find my webcam"

MichaelAC exclaims, "Boy this is a techie session!"

PhilH asks, "I can see teca ... who is that?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yes, Teresa"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "that's Teresa"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I think I might be about to crash"

PhilH waves to teresa.

TeresaAlm says, "absolutely. these are the sort of tantrums technologies can have that we have to count on."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Yahoo has frozen up"

PhilH says, "there's rita ... smile"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Happened when I started a voice chat"

TeresaAlm says, "so you can see us, phil. great! btw, where are you? i'm in lisbon, portugal."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "might have to restart it, darn"

VennyS [: )] asks, "Can anyone try to see me?"

PhilH says, "I am in Victoria, BC Canada, Teresa"

PhilH [to VennyS]: "something went wrong with yours, can you invite me again"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "there I just crashed Yahoo on purpose"

TeresaAlm says, "wow, we are far away, but so close after all! :-)"

PhilH [to VanceS]: "and yours said you were not online ... grin"

VennyS [to BJB]: "Can you see me?"

TeresaAlm says, "just lost juani's and vance's webcams."

VennyS [to Teresa]: "I can see you"

MichaelAC exclaims, "Teresa - I now see you!!!"

TeresaAlm asks, "no, venny. will you send me an invitation?"

PhilH [to VennyS]: "I can see you"

TeresaAlm asks, "great, michael! had you ever seen me before?"

VennyS [: )] grins at PhilH.

MichaelAC says, "No !!! (laughing)"

RitaZ says, "cant see anybody but me...:-("

BJB [to VennyS]: "I think I have to restart...brb"

VennyS [to RitaZ]: "I can see you"

You hear a quiet popping sound; NigelC has lost his link.

juani [guest] says, "I got the same message to update"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "venny, i can see you now!"

MichaelAC says, "Yippee - now I have Rita, Vance and Teresa - a galaxy of faces"

RitaZ [to VennyS]: "Whats your ID?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, now I've got to get everyone back here"

You hear a quiet popping sound; BJB [HelpDesk] has lost her link.

VennyS [to VanceS]: "I can see you"

juani [guest] says, "it very cold here,,I must do some exercise or Ill freeze"

MichaelAC asks, "Venny - what is your ID?"

PhilH [to Venny,]: "hey your window is larger than the others but they all say they are 100% in zoom."

PhilH [to Juani [guest]]: "can you invite me to view you exercising?"

PhilH grins.

TeresaAlm says, "i can't get the image size in venny's window, so it's very big."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Yeah, Venny, and your image is frozen"

VennyS [: )] says, "my ID should be Vennysou"

MichaelAC exclaims, "Ta!"

TeresaAlm says, "yes, vance. same here."

juani [guest] asks, "what your ID?"

2002/09/01 Webheads is full. Stopped recording.

VennyS [to VanceS]: "yep. on and off from time to time"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "maybe if you reduced it ..."

PhilH nods in agreement with Vance.

TeresaAlm asks, "rita, did you get to see me?"

MichaelAC says, "OK Venny - i have you"

BJB has connected.

TeresaAlm exclaims, "michael, you seem to be getting everyone! great!"

PhilH [to Michael]: "can you invite me mike?"

RitaZ exclaims, "No, Tere this window telling me i need to update is popping up all the time, Id better do it, cant see anybody!"

BJB drops 2002/09/02 Webheads2 (recording).

PhilH [to Rita]: "well I can see you fine ... wave"

MichaelAC says, "I don't hink I can Phil - I'm in a separate session with eveeryone....but I'm not sure"

MichaelAC says, "Phil - I need your ID first"

PhilH [to Michealac]: "phil_s_harrison"

MichaelAC says, "OK"

TeresaAlm says, "i guess the update is a 'must', rita."

PhilH says, "I will have to dust off the old webcam over the next couple of days."

RitaZ says, "yes, tere, thanks,"

RitaZ says, "now i need to go, but will do so asap"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "another inspired webhead I see"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I want to try voice"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Michael just started one"

RitaZ says, "sorry to have to go, folks, nice to have seen you today...though not all :-("

PhilH [to Micheal]: "I have to find my mike and headset ... just a sec"

VennyS [: )] says, "let's try it, Vance"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "let's go, vance!"

RitaZ says, "bye, CU next Sunday"

juani [guest] says, "bye Rita....have a good week"

RitaZ says, "you too, Juani, thanks"

TeresaAlm says, "bye, rita. loved seeing you."

RitaZ says, "me too, tere, thanks"

You hear a quiet popping sound; RitaZ has disconnected.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "starting voice conference"

juani [guest] says, "ok.."

rif has connected.

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "Hi Rif, did anyone get our voice invitation?"

PhilH [to VennyS]: "can you make your image smaller?"

TeresaAlm says, "hi, rif. welcome."

rif [guest] says, "hi all! Have a nice weekend"

Jan has connected.

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "Hi, Jan. Welcome to TAPPED IN"

Jan [guest] says, "thank you"

BJB [to Jan [guest]]: "May I help you with something?"

Jan [guest] says, "@quit"

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_38 [guest] has disconnected.

BJB . o O ( guess not )

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "who can hear us in the voice chat?"

rif [guest] exclaims, "fingers up!"

BJB [HelpDesk] growls...I can't even open yahoo messenger since I 'UPDATED'

PhilH [to VennyS]: "hey who is your friend?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "great, Rif can hear, and Venny, and Juani"

TeresaAlm asks, "vance, did you start a conference?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, inviting you"

rif [guest] says, "Sound is extremely good on my side"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I can hear Juani and Rif and Michael"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "and Venny"

PhilH says, "Hey Juani I can see you"

Michael's view at this juncture

You hear a quiet popping sound; PhilH has disconnected.

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "who else needs an invite?"

PhilH has connected.

PhilH says, "reception"

BJB [to Phil]: "you be there"

PhilH [to BJB]: "I be"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "be"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I is"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, we've got Teresa in the voice chat now"

TeresaAlm says, "vance, an apple a day. . ."

BJB [HelpDesk] sighs...I downloaded the latest version of yahoo messenger and restarted...still get the same message about your webcam, Vance

juani [guest] says, "keeps the doctor away..that true"

juani [guest] says, "I love apples..and i paid a lot for them in the US"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "no doctors around here today"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "don't know bj, maybe you need to restart"

MichaelAC says, "Bye everyone - time for bed"

PhilH waves bye to Micheal.

rif [guest] says, "bye"

You hear a quiet popping sound; MichaelAC has disconnected.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, time for dinner for me"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "that apple didn't fill me"

BJB [to VanceS]: "do I install ym only or do i have to install yahoo experience?"

BJB . o O ( hope not )

VennyS [: )] says, "very interesting;)"

rif [guest] says, "Did you restart BJ after you did install"

PhilH says, "This has been very informative and fun ... thanks Vance and everyone."

BJB [HelpDesk] nods to rif.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "no, no Yahoo experience, just the messenger"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I didn't no"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "am trying again...thanks, Vance"

TeresaAlm exclaims, "bye, everyone. have agreat week!"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "we'll help you till you solve it BJ"

rif [guest] exclaims, "bye see you later!"

You hear a quiet popping sound; TeresaAlm has disconnected.

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "don't want to hold anyone up...I'll let it download again and do a restart. If it doesn't work, I'll email you ;-)"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "ok, Rif, nice you could join us"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "good plan BJ"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "bye Juani"

PhilH says, "bye juani"

rif [guest] exclaims, "I am here :-) I said Bye to Teresa !"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "yeah, I'm going to exit Yahoo"

juani [guest] says, "Bye everyone.Have a good day.it 10 oclock here."

You hear a quiet popping sound; SRI_104 [guest] has disconnected.

PhilH says, "7AM here ... but I have to go too ... ummm ... to church ...yeah, that's the ticket."

VennyS [: )] is going to bathe his two daughters.

VennyS goes home.

BJB [HelpDesk] logs out to do a restart

You hear a quiet popping sound; BJB [HelpDesk] has disconnected.

VanceS [webcamming] searchesses the room for rif [guest] and PhilH.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "ok, just three of us"

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "so Phil are you a convert to Webheads now?"

PhilH [to VanceS]: "I think so Vance."

VanceS [webcamming] asks, "What is it about CMC that makes it so compelling?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "We don't actually DO anything week after week yet we all turn up and we all go away satisfied"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "well, we learn how to use the tools"

PhilH says, "sounds like a good plan."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "we're all learning"

rif [guest] exclaims, "We should all have something in common I guess!"

PhilH says, "we are all educationists."

PhilH grins.

VanceS [webcamming] says, "we're all human, I think that's it"

PhilH says, "well I am at least partly human"

PhilH grins.

PhilH says, "and partly machine ... bra hahahaha"

rif [guest] says, "laughs :*)"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I had a look at your cv, look pretty human to me"

PhilH says, "androids can be so very convincing."

PhilH asks, "are you teaching at a military college Vance?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm CALL coordinator here, full time, teaching Webheads"

PhilH says, "what does that mean (CALL)"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "computer assisted language learning"

PhilH says, "doh"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "Rif has a doctorate in that"

PhilH says, "excellent."

rif [guest] says, "I am happy with it. I think it is fun"

rif [guest] asks, "Vance are you close to Sharjah?"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "about 2 hours from Sharja by car"

PhilH [to Rif [guest]]: "do you have a web site?"

rif [guest] says, "me, nope. I had when I was in the US. But, it is down now, and I did not work on it yet"

PhilH says, "It is so much trouble to keep them up to date, I really admire how much time you must spend on yours, Vance."

BJB has arrived.

BJ's Shadow follows BJB to here.

PhilH hugs BJB [HelpDesk].

BJB [HelpDesk] hugs Phil

BJB . o O ( needed that hug...I still get the same message about the cam )

BJB [HelpDesk] shrugs...not meant to be, I guess.

PhilH says, "what is the door sound in yahoo messenger, I keep hearing it."

rif [guest] exclaims, "Murphy's law!"

PhilH nods.

BJB [to Phil]: "that just lets you know when a friend has logged in...you can change the sound"

BJB . o O ( or turn it off, I think )

PhilH says, "I see."

VanceS [webcamming] says, "I'm going to run people, see you next week I hope"

PhilH says, "I'll be here"

BJB [HelpDesk] says, "see you, Vance. Have a good one"

rif [guest] says, "well, I need to leave too."

PhilH says, "thanks Vance ... now I will go and read your emails."

rif [guest] says, "Nice meeting you Phil"

PhilH [to Rif [guest]]: "likewise Arif"

VanceS [webcamming] says, "till later ..."

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [webcamming] has disconnected.

Disconnected from TAPPED IN on Sun Sep 1 07:17:46 2002 PDT.

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