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Webheads chat logs from June 26, 2005

This is a quick annotated transcript of the Webheads chat session from Tapped In http://www.tappedin.org on Sunday June 26, 2005

Topics included blogging | Nordic voice conference November 7 to 12 | Chat with Nick Noakes on EdTech Talk | Jeff Coops's PowerPoint and interview with Dave Sperling | Dennis's work with WiA_OCb

2005.06.26 05:06:22 Login

Room: TI_Reception

After lots of hugging and greeting

DafneG . o O ( I love this early morning hugging )

ElizabethH: Hi Anna, David, and Daf!

ElizabethH: Looks like a quorum.

AnnaK: hi

SusanneN: Elizabeth asks why I like blogs, good question

DavidWe hopes it is a quorum

SusanneN: for myself, they're easy to write

DavidWe wonders if Susanne likes bogs, too

SusanneN: and I find so many relevant and interesting blogs writtne by others

DavidWe is SERIOUSLY outnumbered

DafneG: My students are starting to like blogs ;-)

Maggi: relax David

DavidWe calms down

Maggi: they hug not bite

RobertWB joined the room.

DafneG: I have always liked them. But I did not feel very comfortable blogging

Maggi: hi Bob

DavidWe waves to Bob

AnnaK: hi bob

DafneG: hi Bob

DavidWe: Señor Bob

ChristinLo joined the room.

SusanneN: although I am writing blogs in a personal language about my first hand expereinces and discoveries, , I would never write anything bthat was not meant for being read in public, Elizabeth

Maggi: moralm support for David

DafneG: finally, I feel comfortable

SusanneN: bob the Elder!

RobertWB: Hello to all on this fine? day.

DavidWe concurs with Maggi

DafneG waves hi to Christin

SusanneN: hello Christine!!

Maggi: Hi Christine

ChristinLo waves to everyone here

DavidWe: brb

ChristinLo: Susan, you were talking about blogs?

Maggi folllllws David to get bagel

DafneG: btw, I put The Confederation Bridge pictures in Flickr http://www.livejournal.com/users/dygonza/

ChristinLo: I'm at Knowplace , Open weekend Course, about RSS

DafneG: oh sorry that is my LiveJournal blog

RobertWB: How is that class going for you Christin.

DafneG: http://www.flickr.com/photos/daf/sets/495158/

ChristinLo: The class good, but it's brand new for me, and a little complicated

DafneG: I read that Sus learned everything about RSS in that class

ElizabethH: Daf--why do you feel comfortable now?

ElizabethH: with blogs, I mean?

RobertWB: It takes a bit to get your brain around it all, doesn't it..

DafneG: because I found LiveJournal which I find much more friendly than blogger.

JeffLe joined the room.

RobertWB: But such exercises keep us from things like Alzheimers later in life.

ChristinLo: Yes, I have to practice!

DafneG waves hi to Jeff

Maggi: true Bob

JeffLe: Good Morning all

Maggi: especially the men

DafneG: I feel oppresssed in blogger

RobertWB: Christin, I hope you and the rest of the group will join me next weekend at Knowplace for Search Engines, Folksonomy, Tagging and Cybrarians.

RobertWB: Hi Jeff.

ChristinLo: Bob, I will drown, new terminology again!

DafneG: anyway I am using my blogger too: http://dafraco.blogspot.com  I blogged Sus' screenshot of her presentation for my arch. students

RobertWB: Oh but good stuff all of it, Chirstin.

DennisOl joined the room.

AmyDw joined the room.

DafneG waves hi to Dennis

Maggi: Hi Dennhis

DafneG: hi Amy

RobertWB: Hello, Dennis and Amy

AmyDw: hi

DennisOl waves to Daf

DennisOl: Hi, Robert 

Maggi waves to Amy

AmyDw: I am just figuring out how to use all this :-)

SusanneN: we do, Amy

DennisOl: Hi, Maggi

RobertWB: Be patient Amy, it will all come to you.

DafneG: Welcome to Tapped In, Amy and to Webheads

SusanneN: hello Dennis & Amy

ChristinLo: I'll wear a life jacket, Bob!

ElizabethH: The architecture presentation was terrific--Daf!

ElizabethH: Thanks for sharing all the good stuff with us.

DennisOl: Hi, Sus. Thanks for the comment on the browser you used.

SusanneN: it was such fun to participate Daf

RobertWB: Kewl...I will toss out inflatable ducks for anyone that feels they are in over their heads.

DennisOl: Yes, Daf. You've done some amazing things.

SusanneN smiles to Dennis, that

RobertWB: You will be surprised how much you are already using all the things in the course.

DafneG: thanks, guys

SusanneN: that's what blog conmments< are for

Maggi . o O ( Bob used kewl )

ChristinLo smiles

DennisOl: Sus: Definitely! I've added another section to the "Cyber Bridges" blog, BTW.

DennisOl smiles back at Christin

DafneG: my students are amazed at my international friends ;-)

DennisOl: I'm amazed at your international friends, too!

SusanneN: it was inetresting to know that your students met us teacher veterans as beginner users as well

DennisOl: . . . and at your students' thoughts.

JeffLe left the room.

JeffLe joined the room.

RobertWB: I suspect your students are just amazed with you, Daf....and they shoulld rirghtfully be so.

JeffLe: Just want to let everyone know that EdTech Talk is going on the air earlier than usual - in 10 minutes. Our guest is Nick Noakes from HongKong. We'll be talking about electronic portfolios, digital storytelling, and his thoughts from the recent New Media Consortium's Summer Conference .

DennisOl: Jeff: Sounds wonderful! I wish I could bilocate!

DafneG: we can listen while being here, I guess

SusanneN: they said after session one that they had got new ideas on how to create their own presentations; that's why I decided to solve some techical constraints I was having, by making my presentation in Flickr

RobertWB: Jeff can you tell the group how to log on for that?

DafneG: yes, I told them they could use photostory, buzznet photoblog, blogs, web pages, and whatever

JeffLe: oh yeah. thanks. http://worldbridges.com/livewire/

ElizabethH: Sus--you can make presentations in Flickr? Howso?

DafneG: but they had not seen Flikr used for that

DavidWe . o O ( Not THE Nick Noakes?!? )

ChristinLo: Dennis, could you give the url of the Cyberbridge blog, I want to add RSS!

AnnaK left the room (signed off).

AnnaK joined the room.

DafneG: http://www.flickr.com/photos/daf/

DennisOl: Christin: Just a minute . . .

SusanneN: Elizabeth, I cretaed an album and showed it as a slide whow in Elluminate

DafneG: we could include sound links in Flickr, too

DafneG: that's the photo album I created with the photos sent by Stewart Nelson

DafneG: for my students

DafneG: he was one of the designers of the Confederation Bridge in CAnada, and he came to talk to my students

SusanneN: with sound links in Flickr you have a near perfect presentation tool

IngridBr joined the room.

SusanneN: have not tried that myself yet though

DafneG: and you can leave messages like in Buzznet

AmyDw left the room (signed off).

DafneG: hi Ingrid

SusanneN: hello Ingrid, welcome

IngridBr: Hi everybody

RobertWB: Hello Ingrid.

DafneG: this is the real url to the photoalbum http://www.flickr.com/photos/daf/sets/495158/

DennisOl: Hi, Ingrid!

DennisOl: Christin: The URL for the "Cyber Bridges" forms blog is here:

DennisOl: http://wia-forms.blogspot.com/

ChristinLo: thanks!

RobertWB: Those are some terrific shots of the bridge, daf

DavidWe waves to Ingrid

DavidWe . o O ( Wie Geht's? )

DennisOl smiles at Christin

IngridBr waves back

IngridBr . o O ( gut danke )

DavidWe smiles

DennisOl: The draft of the Call for Proposals form is in its third revision, BTW.

DavidWe reminds everyone that Elvis is on Philadelphia radio - 98.1 FM - if they have access

DavidWe . o O ( for 2 more hours )

DavidWe hums along

Maggi: Hallo Ingrid....schön dich zu sehen

MichaelAC joined the room.

DavidWe wonders if there are Elvis songs sung in German

DavidWe wves to Michael

SusanneN: my flickr presentation set about bridges, for Daf's class, is at http://www.flickr.com/photos/netopnyrop/sets/491420

DavidWe: Hi, MIchael. Welcome

MichaelAC: Hi there everyone

SusanneN: mello Michael!!!

DennisOl: Hi, Michael.

DavidWe . o O ( mello? )

Maggi: yes David

DavidWe nods

SusanneN: so good to see you

DavidWe . o O ( mellow Yellow - Donovan )

MichaelAC: v mello :)

AnnaK: hi Michael

DafneG waves hi michael

Maggi: Hi mc

DavidWe forgets to offer bagels, etc. to everyone

DavidWe . o O ( even whitefish )

DavidWe smiles

SusanneN: Michael, we also need to talk soon, about teh Nordic

Maggi gives mc a hug

MichaelAC: I understand Sus. Maybe we can meet when it gets coole there!

SusanneN: now that the WIAbeta conference will run one week later, I was thinking perhaps we could

MichaelAC: That would seem like an obvious thing to do - yes

DennisOl gives a thumbs-up to Sus for the Flickr sets

DennisOl passes around poppy-seed kolach to go with the bagels and whitefish

RobertWB: Im sorry, Sus, I did not know the dates had changed.

SusanneN: Dennis, I created these because I was having problems w´ith my Power point slides on Mac for Elluminate

MichaelAC left the room (signed off).

MichaelAC joined the room.

MichaelAC left the room (signed off).

DennisOl: Understood, Sus.

Maggi slaps a slice of whitefish on her bagel

SusanneN: I know nothing about changed dates Bob?

Maggi grabs some kolach too

DavidWe . o O ( kolach? )

SusanneN: the Nordic voice conference will run from November 7 to 12

DavidWe: It's pretty good whitefish, by the way

Maggi: here...try it

DavidWe: Will Odin be there, Sus?

DavidWe winks

DavidWe: Thanks, Maggi

Maggi: open wide

SusanneN smiles to David and his excellent wit

ElizabethH: Hey guys--We're listening in at Worldbridges

Maggi puts a piece in David's mouth

SusanneN: where can I go to Worldbridges and listen, I

DennisOl: kolach is a round, rolled bread--sort of like a jellyroll.

SusanneN: 'I'm behind with this

DavidWe: Oh!

DavidWe: Could be good

DavidWe wonders if it goes with fish

ElizabethH: Here's the address, but you will need to register: http://worldbridges.com/livewire/

RobertWB: There is also a chat area now at worldbridges.

SusanneN: I could not eat fish on bagels

DennisOl: David: Not really because it's sweet. It's tasty, though.

ElizabethH: They are just stating on "electronic portfolios" as a subject.

Maggi: and you are Danish Sus!

DennisOl: Thanks, Elizabeth. I'm not up for multi-modality at the moment, but will go to Worldbridges later.

ElizabethH: Where is the chat area?

DafneG: I am there too

DafneG: you can chat either in Skype or in the chat area (nav bar on the left)

RobertWB: http://www.worldbridges.com/livewire/chat.htm

Maggi: there is a link Elizabeth

DavidWe wonders what is wrong with Susanne

DafneG: I am just listening, reading here, and reading Dennis' blog

SusanneN: Maggi, bagels are not common in Denmark, I consider that as cakes

DavidWe: You have bread, though, right, Sus?

SusanneN: aren't they sweet bakery?

Maggi: they are not sweet Sus

DavidWe smiles

SusanneN: I see

DennisOl: Daf: You and Tere had some very good comments and suggestions. I've started to implement them (in revision 3 of the Call form).

DavidWe: ic

SusanneN: I've never eaten one myself. now back to the webcast

DafneG: thanks, Dennis. I am reading your new entries ;-)

Maggi: they are like a rill with a hole in the middle

DennisOl smiles at Daf

RobertWB: Ive reduced my screen sizes in both and can keep up with the audio and both text windows.

Maggi: roll*

ElizabethH: Got into the chat too.

RobertWB: I see Anna, Elizabeth and myself...Fiesta revistied

AnnaK: ;)

MichaelAC joined the room.

MichaelAC: Back again

SusanneN: wb michael

DennisOl: Hi again, Michael.

DafneG: wb, michael

RobertWB: Hi Michael.

SusanneN left the room (signed off).

SusanneN joined the room.

DavidWe . o O ( wb, Sus )

ElizabethH: I keep getting "welcome" from an automated voice in worldbirdges--what a pain.

DafneG: wb sus

SusanneN: lost connection

DavidWe: No, you lost your connection?

DafneG: it sounds everytime someone joins the room, eliz

ElizabethH: aha

SusanneN: I was listning in world bridges but got disconneceted there as well

DavidWe: They are very welcoming?

DafneG: Sus, when will we have the link to the LT pres

MichaelAC: Where is this world bridges room? Are some of you there now?

DennisOl: BRB

RobertWB: worldbridges.com/livewire

DavidWe . o O ( capitals! )

DafneG: http://www.worldbridges.com/livewire

ElizabethH: Hi Michael--we are at the WorldBridges conference out of Hong Kong.

MichaelAC: Thanlls Bob

DavidWe would like to go to Hong Kong for real

RobertWB: You are welcome

MichaelAC: Vance just said hi via Yahoo from HK airport!

DavidWe . o O ( show off! )

SusanneN: Daf, I don't know, we could ask Hope

RutyH joined the room.

DavidWe waves to Ruty

DavidWe: Hi, Ruty. Welcome

AmyDw joined the room.

RobertWB: Hi Ruty.

DavidWe: Hi, Amy, Welcome

SusanneN: oh, that's where he is today

DavidWe: LEt us know if you all have questions. Several of us are HelpDesk volunteers

SusanneN: hello Ruty and Amy

SusanneN has to move away to get some coffee, any takers? Milk or sugar?

DafneG: say hi to Vance on my behalf

DavidWe: Coffee with milk, PLEASE!

DafneG: plain for me, Sus, pls

DavidWe: Say "salaam alecheim" to Vance, also

ElizabethH: That's funny--Vance is in HK and WorldBridges is coming out of HK, too.

MichaelAC: Vance has jumped on a shuttle to HK city so he's gone already
<Michael had this backwards, I was in the city not able to connect to TI from my hotel room and rushing to get a shuttle to the airport - Vance>

DavidWe: Oh, damn!

DavidWe grins

RutyH: hello to all and we say here SHALOOM

MichaelAC: Is the world bridges thing talking about Digital Storytellijg at the moment? Am I in the rght place?

RobertWB: Shaloom Ruty.

RobertWB: Yes...you are at the right place

MichaelAC: Cool.

MichaelAC: Who's talking?

DennisOl: Hi, Ruty and Amy.

DavidWe: Shalom, Ruty. Are you a teacher?

DennisOl: Aleichem Shalom, Ruty!

AmyDw: hi again :-) I feel bad popping in and out while I figure out what is going on ...

LeeB left the room (signed off).

DavidWe: Not a problem, Amy. You've just wandered in to a meeting of the WebHeads

RobertWB: Dont worry about it Amy, are you having problems...

RutyH: I am weiting for Amy and Cristina T to join me on a conversation.

DavidWe . o O ( Teachers of English as a Second Language, mostly )

DavidWe nods to Ruty

DavidWe: Are you a teacher, Amy?

RutyH: yes David I am a teacher from Israel

AmyDw: yes

AmyDw: computer to elementary students in Delaware USA

DennisOl: Have you heard of Elaine Hoter, Amy?

DavidWe: I'm on my way to Phiadelphia for the start of the NECC conference

AmyDw: I will be there too

DavidWe: I'm in Bucks County right now, near Newtown

DavidWe: Me, too

DennisOl: Oops--I meant that question for Ruty.

AmyDw: wow

DavidWe: I'm giving a Birds of a Feather (BoaF) session on Wednesday - math and technology -

DavidWe: We'll try to "Blow it" into TappedIn, too

AmyDw: I am working with contingent from IEARN

DavidWe . o O ( Live from NECC )

DavidWe: Oh, cool. I know Ed Gragert who works at the NY office of I•EARN

AmyDw: yep

SusanneN: sounds interesting David

AmyDw: some of the folsk wil be staying at my house

AmyDw: folks

DavidWe: Of course it is interesting, Sus. Otherwise....

RutyH: what is David doing?

DavidWe: Cool stuff, Ruty, always

DavidWe smiles

DavidWe: Friend of mine teaches Ottoman History at Tel Aviv University

DavidWe: We were in college together

RutyH: my English is poor. what do you mean?

MichaelAC left the room (signed off).

DavidWe: I work with math teachers mostly - helping them learn to use technology

DavidWe hopes Ruty understands that

DavidWe: There's a big web site that we began 13 years ago - the Math Forum - www.mathforum.org

DavidWe: I've been going to the NECC conference for close to 10 years, I think

ElizabethH: Sounds good, David--NECC conference, I mean.

RutyH: I am working with science teachers helping them to use ICT

DavidWe: What do you teach, Ruty?

DavidWe: Sorry, bad timing, there

DavidWe nods to Elizabeth

DavidWe: Mostly teachers for school students or universities?

RutyH: I teach scuence: biology, chemistry and phisiks

DavidWe: I was a chemistry major in college

DavidWe knows some biology and physics, too

DennisOl: Ruty: Have you heard of Elaine Hoter?

Maggi: Andy Carvin and David Carvitt have linked podcasts and blogs to the conference Elizabeth

RutyH: so go and see about "boil boil and troy"

Maggi: wrong last name

Maggi: David Warlick

RutyH: Dennis, who is Eliane? do you think about a girl from Lebanon?

JamesSB joined the room.

DavidWe: Right, David's a cool guy

DavidWe: But I've known Andy for over 10 years - he started the WWWEDU mailing list and web page

DavidWe waves to James

DavidWe: Hi, James. Welcome

JamesSB waves to everyone.... looks at his watch

JamesSB: sorry I'm only an hour late!

DennisOl: Ruty: As far as I know, Elaine is still at Talpiot College. She started a teacher-training site in the early to mid 1990s. She was an Internet pioneer in Israel.

DavidWe: If any wants me to check particular things out at NECC (about ESL/EFL) let me know - wex@pobox.com

DavidWe: http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2005/glance/

DavidWe: That's the schedule of events

RutyH: how do I go to speek with Cristina and Amy in a privat room?

DavidWe: Make the (Internet) desert bloom

DavidWe: You can have a private chat with either one of them, Ruty, or both of them

DavidWe: Or....

DavidWe: You can go to another "room" in TappedIn

RutyH: yes but how?

DavidWe: Thanks for joining the TappedIn community, by the way, Ruty

DavidWe: Well, to have a private message with someone...

DennisOl: David: I'll send you e-mail with things to look for.

DavidWe: click once on their name in the list of names, to the left of the chat area...

DavidWe nods to Dennis

DavidWe: Please do, Dennis

BjB joined the room.

DavidWe hugs Bj

DavidWe: Morning, Mrs. Berquist

Maggi hugs BJ

RutyH: Thanks!

DavidWe: and then, Ruty,

DavidWe: click the little face icon at the bottom of the list of names

Maggi: double click Ruty

BjB hugs warmly

DavidWe . o O ( you can also double click on a name, as Maggi mentioned )

SusanneN hugs Bj warmly, so long time no see you!

ElizabethH: Hugs, BJ

DavidWe gets more cream cheese for his 2nd half bagel

JamesSB realizes he hasn't had lunch yet!

Maggi swipes some with her finger

DavidWe: Hey, there's more...

JamesSB goes to the kitchen to get something to nibble on

RutyH: I feel as if I have a cammera there

DavidWe combs his hair if Ruty is taking out his camera

DavidWe: I think this is a clean t-shirt

RutyH: Ruty is "she"

SusanneN: this is a very lively room on Sunday mornings!

DennisOl: Hi, BJ.

DennisOl: message sent, David.

Maggi: oopps...David took his glasses off

BjB waves hi to Dennis and Ruty

DennisOl waves back, smile on face

BjB: welcome to the Tapped In community, Ruty

AmyDw: this is really fasicnating! I think I sent a private message to Ruty but not sure :-) Hope to meet some of you at NECC :-)

AmyDw: thanks for your help..

BjB: hi, Amy! From Delaware:-)

AmyDw: hi

RutyH: Hello Amy, now we wait for CristinaT

BjB . o O ( I'm originally from Delaware, now in south central PA )

DavidWe waves to Amy

AmyDw: oh - too funny

DavidWe is getting ready to go to Philly

BjB: my mom and brother live in Middletown, DE

DavidWe: I'll see you guys later on

RobertWB: HYi BJB

AmyDw: so we could be around the corner from each other

DavidWe: I have a bank account in Wilmington

DafneG hugs BJ

BjB: yep

BjB waves hi to Bob

BjB hugs Daf and Sus

Maggi: you can't do like at Yahoo Ruty and have a private message with more than one at a time

BjB . o O ( I'm not quite awake yet...too excited about NECC to sleep last night )

AmyDw: oh

Maggi: not together but separate

AmyDw: Stop by the International Reception sponsored by IEARN -

BjB welcomes Amy to the TI community also

AidenY joined the room.

RutyH: So if we have to talk what is the way?

DennisOl: Hi, Aiden.

AidenY: hello webheads

Maggi: here

AmyDw: can we make a new group?

DavidWe waves to Aiden

SusanneN hugs Aiden!

Maggi: or an individual private message

BjB: oh, cool, Amy. Linda Ullah does a monthly discussion on global projects and frequently discusses iEarn

DavidWe waves bye

AidenY left the room (signed off).

AidenY joined the room.

DavidWe: Ciao, folks. I'm off to Philly

Maggi: or you have to go somewhere else

DavidWe . o O ( wb, Aiden )

AidenY: hi there again

BjB hugs David. See you later

SusanneN: bye David, have fun!

DennisOl: I enjoyed your communication with Teresa's students at "Have Fun with English," Aiden. And I think CJ must've been one of their favorite visitors!

DavidWe: Thanks, Sus

DavidWe left the room (signed off).

DafneG hugs Aiden

SusanneN: I loved to listen to young CJ playing the recorder

DennisOl: Yes, I enjoyed that, too.

SusanneN: he was so focused and hard working

JeffC joined the room.

AidenY: Hi Denis, CJ also had a fun time recording.

AidenY hugs daf back

DennisOl: I bet he did, Aiden!

SusanneN: hello good ol

SusanneN: good old Jeff!

Maggi waves to Jeff

DennisOl: Hi, Jeff.

AidenY: CJ's now preparing for his final exams [this week]

RutyH: Amy we have to have her e- mail

Maggi: uo early Jeff

Maggi: up

JeffC waves... yup

DennisOl: Tell CJ Yeh-yeh Dennis wishes him luck!

DennisOl: (Some of my Taiwanese students call me Yeh-yeh.)

SusanneN: Amy & Ruty, why don't you get a private office?

DennisOl smiles

AidenY: I will Denis. Do you know what it means?

DennisOl: Yes--grandpa.

AidenY: lol, yes!

DennisOl: ^o^

SusanneN: aha, so a single Yeh means father?

AidenY: no, sus, Yeh means 'leaf'

ElizabethH: Hi Aiden!

RutyH: Susana, i AM NEW AND i AM WEITING FOR cRISTINAt AND aMY TO TALK ABOUT OUR PROJECT.

JeffC: I wanted to share a Powerpoint presentation (in draft form) with the group.

AidenY: but they almost sound the same, there's a difference in intonation

AidenY: hi Elizabeth, Good morning

DafneG: go ahead, Jeff show your ppt

DennisOl: Tone! How wonderful--but how frustrating for speakers of non-tone-based languages!

DennisOl: Yes, Jeff. You've piqued our curiosities!

AidenY: i agree, Dennis.

AidenY: Yes, Jeff, please show us.

DennisOl smiles and nods

JeffC: You can view it online (use IE, not Firefox): http://www.freewebs.com/jeffcooper/collaboration1.htm

AidenY left the room (signed off).

AidenY joined the room.

ElizabethH: Aiden--can you join us in WorldBridges?

IngridBr left the room (signed off).

AidenY: yeah sure, Elizabeth, when is this again?

JeffC: I can share it in the Powerpoint form through http://www.yousendit.com/  or... people can download it at http://www.freewebs.com/jeffcooper/collaboration1.ppt

AidenY left the room (signed off).

AidenY joined the room.

JeffC: I appreciate any and all input... jbcoops@gmail.com

RutyH: i did and thanks

IngridBr joined the room.

SusanneN left the room (signed off).

RobertWB: Jeff, i am tryiing to load up your ppt.

DafneG: the webcast is about to finish

DennisOl: Jeff: I just browsed through all the slides: very interesting, very informative. I also bookmarked it (I saw it in OmniWeb, not IE.)

JeffC: One of these days I want to get a program that converts powerpoint to flash (or something more viewable).

JeffLe left the room (signed off).

AidenY: which webcast is that, Daf?

JeffC hasn't used OmniWeb... did it view ok?

DennisOl: Yes.

JeffC: cool

DafneG: I think there is one application that does that, Jeff, but I think you have to pay for it

DennisOl: I just saw individual slides, though--not a timed presentation.

JeffC nods to Dafne.

JeffC: It's not a timed presentation.

RutyH: what is timed presentation?

DennisOl: I didn't really mean "timed"--I meant I didn't see it as a slide show. I just viewed individual slides one by one.

JeffC: I've been offered a job teaching online... this is the material for the course I am going to give.

RutyH: Amy did it last year

DennisOl: It's very good, Jeff. For the course, it would probably be better to break it into a number of different PPTs, each on a specific topic, though.

DafneG: Elizabeth, while copying I closed the window and my chat was not saved :-(

Maggi: looks good Jeff

ElizabethH: I'll grab it, Daf.

DafneG: thanks, eliz

ChristinLo left the room (signed off).

JeffC: Well... the course is only 5 hours... using Placeware. My plan was to spend the first two hours introducing myself, the presentation, and getting to know the students. The third and fourth hours would be getting the students (guessing mostly educators) to use some of the sites (register at Tapped In, Hilites, etc.), the final hour would be to get the students to come back with ideas of their own.

DennisOl: Ah, I see. Well, that changes things.

AidenY: are some of you multitasking? split in two places at the same time?

DennisOl: Your plan seems good!

RobertWB: We are always multitasking....

DafneG: I was in Worldbridges

MaureenN joined the room.

DafneG: and surfing around

RobertWB: UJust finishing up at world bridges.

DafneG: now I am here

AidenY: that was what Elizabeth was talking about earlier

AidenY: I didn't get that

AidenY: is that over?

DafneG: yes, there was a webcast

DafneG: yes it is over

DennisOl: Is there a way a complete Worldbridges transcript can be made available? Is that what you were referring to, Elizabeth?

DafneG: but you can listen tothe recording, Aiden

RobertWB: Each one of those gets a bit better every time.

ChristinLo joined the room.

RutyH: can we put pictures here?

JeffLe joined the room.

JeffC: Yes Ruty... "image notes"

DennisOl: Thanks, Daf. I'll listen to the recording.

DennisOl: WB, Christin!

DafneG: your announcement page for the WiA-OC was praised by Jeff, Dennis

DennisOl: Really?

JeffLe: I'll put a link on worldbridges, if you like.

DennisOl smiles

DafneG: I asked him about a Worldbridges logo..

RutyH: where is the place?

AidenY: whta's the url?

DennisOl: No, don't like it yet, Jeff. It's still in development. It will be ready soon, though.

DafneG: and he said they are going to have a contest to select a logo

DafneG: well, I will let Jeff talk about their logo

JeffLe: Speaking of praise, I was watching an interview we did with Dave Sperling a couple of years ago and he had lots of praise for Dennis' efforts on eslcafe.com when asked about his favorite parts of the site.

DennisOl: Aiden: It's http://www.d-oliver.net/WiA-OC/

JeffLe: roger that. No link yet.

AidenY: thanks

DennisOl: Jeff: I did a lot of work with Dave when "The Cafe" was being started. I'm also in touch with him regularly and will probably visit him this summer.

DennisOl: Aiden: Remember that this is a draft. One part is in the 2nd revision, another the 3rd, but it's still in development.

AidenY: ok

DafneG: Dennis was also our star student in the TESOL "Teaching Vocabulary and Grammar Online" course ;-)

DennisOl: Jeff: When Dave first started "The Cafe," he put out a call for people to serve as a start-up team. I think I was the only one who responded.

DennisOl blushes at Daf's kind words

JeffLe: Interview is at http://koreabridge.com/kotesol/2003/sperling.htm  in case anyone would like to hear the praise directly

DafneG: and we are really happy that he is a webhead now

ElizabethH: Daf--I managed finally to copy the text of the chat. I'll e-mail it to you and Bob.

DennisOl blushes again

AidenY: how do I click a link, i could not open the link

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DafneG: thanks, Elizabeth

DafneG: you may have a popup blocker, Aiden

DennisOl: Thanks for the link, Jeff. Have you ever interviewed Dave Shaffer?

RutyH: use shift and the mouse together

BjB . o O ( or hold down ctrl as you click on the link )

DafneG: I think you have to use the ctrl key

JeffLe: No. I think I have a short video of one of his Kotesol presentations somewhere.

DennisOl: Dave Sh has been active in online ELT for a long time--and is a frequent presenter at KOTESOL conferences, no?

ElizabethH: I get annoyed with Sperling sometimes--he seems a great self-promoter.

DennisOl: Elizabeth: He isn't.

AidenY: ok, will try

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DennisOl: But he comes across that way.

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DennisOl: You have to understand that he has financed EVERYTHING on his site himself--and only decided to go (partly) commercial because he couldn't otherwise afford to offer all the free services.

AidenY: it works but I lost my connection

Maggi: bye Christine

IngridBr: bye everybody

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Maggi: bye Ingrid!

DennisOl: Also, Dave Sp is a self-promoter because he has had little support from academia--though he's had a lot of criticism.

DennisOl: end of sermon

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ElizabethH: Is he still doing the ESL Cafe, Dennis?

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DennisOl: Yes, Elizabeth.

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ElizabethH: I'll keep that in mind, Dennis.

DennisOl: The ESL Cafe is best known for its discussion forums and joblists now, though.

DennisOl: It wasn't intended to be that in the beginning, but that's what developed over time.

ElizabethH: I should check it out again?

ElizabethH: I have some students in REO who really want to chat, so maybe the forum there would be the right place for them.

DennisOl: Well, I don't know if anything will change your impression. But if you understand the reasons for his self-promotion, maybe you'll see it from another point of view.

Maggi: I arranged for Dave to talk ov er the Internet at our local teachers confe3rence

Maggi: he was great

DennisOl: The chatroom at Dave's Cafe is usually a safe place for students.

DennisOl: However, when a lot of teachers are there, the students are often ignored.

Maggi: I send lots of people who come here there

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DennisOl: The chatroom is especially good for students when a participant named "Auntie" is there. She's very good about trying to get all the student posters involved.

Maggi . o O ( same here )

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ElizabethH: It's a real art

ElizabethH: I've got to go for now--good seeing you all.

JeffC: Maureen, I just read your post regarding a student with Aspergers. There is a Special Ed group at Tapped In that you might want to post it to. Ooops... too late... have to email her.

DennisOl: It was good to chat with you, Elizabeth. I've been an admirer of yours for a long time!

ElizabethH: Jeff--wee you over in WorldBridges earlier/

ElizabethH: were you?

JeffC: me?

JeffC: or the other jeff?

ElizabethH: Why thank you, Dennis--have we met f2f?

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ElizabethH: Bob--I just sent you the chat transcript.

AidenY: me too, i've got to go and work on some stuff. Good night all.

DennisOl: Elizabeth: I don

ElizabethH: Bye Aiden--however brief it was fun.

RobertWB: Thanks Eliz, I got it to work anyway, but then I knocked myself out of Tapped in.

DennisOl: Oops. I don't remember. Maybe. I used to go to TESOL every year.

DafneG: got it, eliz, thanks

AidenY: bye.

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DennisOl: However, I've known about your work for quite some time.

ElizabethH: Thanks for the tip on the Cafe, Maggi and Dennis--I'm going to steer some students there.

DennisOl: There are also lots of Student Discussion Boards, Elizabeth.

RobertWB: It's been an interesting morning.

ElizabethH: Are the SL lists still going out of LaRobe?

ElizabethH: LaTrobe?

DafneG: I am leaving too, need to keep working

DafneG: see you around, folks

DennisOl: Yes, as far as I know, Elizabeth.

RobertWB: Me too Daf,

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RobertWB: Daf, did you try to Skype inat Worldbridge.

ElizabethH: Bye, Daf, and thanks for the work on the EVO materials. I hope to get them all cleaned up by the end of June.

DafneG: not today, Bob, but I have done it before

RobertWB: Ok, I think that is what knocked me off.

DafneG: I have had no prob with skype so far

RobertWB: Bye all.

ElizabethH: Dennis--if there are any other Student Discussion Boards that you have the address for, let me know.

DafneG: I have been here and in skype

ElizabethH: I'm at ehansonsmi@yahoo.com

RobertWB: later.

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