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Webheads chat logs from June 19, 2005

This is a quick annotated transcript of the Webheads chat session from Tapped In http://www.tappedin.org on Sunday June 19, 2005

Topics included a chat with Juanita, organization for the Webheads in Action beta conference online, the theme for the conference, the Worldbridges Webcasta conference that Bee is considering attending in Brazil, and INEEN, a new Open Source VOIP tool

2005.06.19 05:03:37 Login

Room: TI_Reception

VanceS joined the room.

DavidWe: Hi, Vance.

DavidWe waves

DennisOl: Hi, Vance.

VanceS: Hi all

JuanaAB: Hi Vance.

VanceS: Hi Juana, long time no see

VanceS: nice to see you here

VanceS: you're back in the states?

JuanaAB: yes,I was disconnected on weekends.

JuanaAB: Yes,I have been here for  a year.I just finished school in NJ.

VanceS: were you studying or teaching?

ChristinLo joined the room.

JuanaAB: I was teaching ESL and Spanish.

VanceS: and what are you going to do now?

JuanaAB: I will go back to Chile on vacation and come back to VA.

VanceS: to virginia? what will you do there?

VanceS: different program?

JuanaAB: I was offered a position as a Spanish teacher in Henrico county .

JuanaAB: VIF program

VanceS: wonderful, what about your family?

JuanaAB: They are in Chile.I have not seen them since September.

JuanaAB: I am flying next Thursday 23.

VanceS: I'll bet you can't wait

DennisOl: Have a wonderful time, Juanita!

JuanaAB: Yes,I am excited about seeing them again.

JuanaAB: Gracias.

DennisOl: No hay de que! How long will you stay there?

JuanaAB: It will be winter for me again.

VanceS: This is Juanita's webheads page: http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/juani.htm

JuanaAB: I will stay there for two months.

JuanaAB: Thanks.Vance.The thing was I could not log in with my previous nickname so I had to sign as anew member.And that happened to me many times .

DennisOl: What a wonderful Webheads page, Juani! I enjoyed skimming through it!

DennisOl: Two months will be a very nice visit.

JuanaAB: I will write something to add .Thanks Dennis.

DennisOl: Yes, please do, Juani.

DennisOl: Many of my students have the same "two first names, two last names" problem, Juani.

VanceS: there's more

VanceS: here's a pic of Juanita and her son Marcelo on Feb 14 here: http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/chat2004/chat2004.htm

JuanaAB: Yes ,two months.And as it is so cold in the south where I live,I have plans to go to the Atacama dessert and some paces with warm weather in the North of my country.

VanceS: you can scroll down to Feb 14

DennisOl: Nice photo! How old is Marcelo, Juani?

JuanaAB: Marcelo is 23 now.He is about to be done with t he University.

DennisOl: What is he studying?

JuanaAB: Comunicacion Audiovisual in UNIACC

DennisOl: Wow! That fits in perfectly with the interests of the Webheads!

JuanaAB: www.Uniacc.cl    is the University of the Comunications for South America,Yes ,and he speaks English,too.

DennisOl: You must be very proud of him, Juani!

JuanaAB: I have learned many things from him.Yes I am.

JuanaAB: I was reading you are from Phoenix,AZ.I was there once on the way to the Grand Cannyon.I remember the palm trees and the hot weather.

DennisOl: I think it's amazing that the younger generations view computers, the Net, and technology in general very differently than, say, someone my age.

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VanceS: as long as we have an august group here may I ask what you think about a conference in November

RobertWB: Is that when GLD is?

RobertWB: Or is it in OCtober.

VanceS: no, we sort of decided to be separate from GLD

VanceS: participate in GLD of course

AidenY: what conference. V?

VanceS: but then have our own converence

RobertWB: But they are not in the same month are they, Vance.

VanceS: I've been talking it up among individuals

RobertWB: Convergence...now thats a nice term for it.

VanceS: I'm pulling up my calendar pages

DavidWe agrees with Bob

VanceS: ok, here's one

DavidWe smiles

VanceS: http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens/conferen.htm

RobertWB: I really dont care when it is...Ill be there at least virutally.

VanceS: venny is partipating in this one ETA: English Teacher Association conference in Taipei Nov 11-13,

VanceS: is anyone going to ACTFL? CLaire?

ClaireB: yes i am

AidenY: I'll be in ETA, too

BeeD joined the room.

DennisOl: Hi, Bee!

BeeD waves to all

AidenY hugs Bee

RobertWB: Hi  Bee, you are up early.

VanceS: I need venny to be free because he'll be managing our moodle

Maggi hugs Bee

VanceS: ACTFL 2005 in Baltimore, 18-20 November 2005

ClaireB is going to actfl because in Baltimore, and she loves crb cakes!

ClaireB: hello Bee

BeeD: I had trouble opening the chat

ClaireB: crabcakes

BeeD: had to go to several rooms before gettting it working

BeeD: Hello Dennis...good to see you here with us

VanceS: early November is Eid Al Fitr in the Arab world

VanceS: everyone's on holiday

DennisOl: Thanks, Bee.

VanceS: Hi Bee

BeeD: Hi Vance

VanceS: and we need to avoid thanksgiving

VanceS: same reason

VanceS: when is thanksgiving btw?

ClaireB: is it good to have it when everyone is on holiday, or does that make it bad?

BeeD: What is the conversation all about?

DennisOl: I remember an incident in Irving connected with the Eid Al Fitr.

ClaireB: november 24

ClaireB: about when to have a conference

RobertWB: or a convergence.

BeeD: for the webheads online?

Maggi: fourth Thursday in November

DavidWe: Bonjour, Bee. Ca va?

BeeD: Bonjour David..ça va bien

DafneG hugs bee

BeeD hugs Dafne back

VanceS: I was just reviewing emails from Andy, Jonathan, and Eric Baber

VanceS: all are supportive at this time, but earlier in November best for ANdy

VanceS: he anticipates events late november

VanceS: so I'd suggest two days over 14, 15, 16, 17

MichaelGst2 left the room (signed off).

BeeD: and October? I remember Elizabeth mentioned  November might interfere with the Evo moderation

VanceS: 16, 17 best for me

VanceS: she did

BeeD: Saturday and Sunday?

VanceS: but we can't possibly get consensus

RobertWB: so shoot for convergence.

VanceS: yes, exactly, a conference at this time could support EVO

VanceS: be a part of it

BeeD: Right. What would be the theme? And who would it be for?

VanceS: not elizabeth's responsibility

RobertWB: Podcast the whole thing so if you cant be there, you can be there later.

VanceS: I think the theme would be a flowery expression of what webheads were doing

VanceS: basically it's a showcase of where we're at

VanceS: it's free btw

RobertWB: If the webheads got really interested in Podcasting, would they become Podheads.

Maggi: lol

BeeD . o O ( I am right now cropping some flowers I just photographed for my Flickr group )

AidenY: sorry, a phone call distracted me, where is this conference agaiin?

VanceS: maybe we can podcast our conference

VanceS: the conference will be held at (presenter's choice) Alado and LT

VanceS: both are aware the other is involved

VanceS: both have offered support

DafneG . o O ( updating pages for the EVO training session )

VanceS: I've just finished teaching and can write some emails for a week

RobertWB: and now that there is an Aussie version of LT...can we add them too.

VanceS: and I'm ready to set a date, so that's what I'm bouncing off you

BeeD: November sounds ok for me

DafneG: for me too

VanceS: it's not ideal for everone but it's ok for me

DennisOl: I think you just have to go ahead and set the date, Vance. As you said earlier, "there will never be consensus."

RobertWB: That would allow for an around the clock confernence and make a great connect for our asian friends.

VanceS: Venny has agreed to host the moodle, we'll register through that

AidenY: is this both synch and asnych?

DafneG: we can have our EVO trainees attend the conferece as part of the training ;-)

BeeD: BTW....there is an incredible new space on the web...maybe we could use it as well

VanceS: 17 and 18 are my weekend

VanceS: 16 and 17 would do fine too

VanceS: that's wed thu

RobertWB: Which one is that Beed.

BeeD: Elgg

VanceS: Sat Sun doesn't fit between those two conference

ClaireB: same weekend as actfl, but I suspect that there is internet in baltimore, lol

RobertWB: I have not heard of it.

DafneG: thursdays are really bad for me, teach all day

BeeD: just launched

BeeD: I cannot make it on weekdays either

DavidWe: Usually there is Internet in Baltimore

BeeD: teaching the whole day on Thursday and

BeeD: Friday

DennisOl: http://elgg.net/ "Personal Learning Landscape"

BeeD: very very nifty

BeeD: We could create  a webhead blogging community there :-)

VanceS: 15 16 would be right in the middle but I teach both those days

VanceS: but I can be active at night

RobertWB: Got it Dennis.

VanceS: my night is your day

RobertWB: Thanks BeeD

VanceS: so ..

DennisOl: "Elgg is an electronic portfolio, weblog and social networking system, connecting learners and creating communities of learning."

DavidWe . o O ( Day for Night? )

BeeD: 15 and 16 is very difficult for me

BeeD: 15 is Thursday?

RobertWB: I think this slipped by before...but now that there is a LT in Australlia, why not have it round the clock.

RobertWB: Engage the folks in Austalia and Asia.

VanceS: if we did it Fri Sat it would be 18 and 19th

BeeD: this sounds maybe better

RobertWB: Start at 6:00 PM and end at 6 PM.

DafneG: better for me

VanceS: that would compromise, one day from each of our weekends

BeeD: because in Asia it would be Friday night ,Saturday and Sunday

VanceS: Claire will be impacted in Baltimore

VanceS: are you presenting there claire?

RobertWB: I dont understand BeeD

VanceS: presentations can be any time, day or night

BeeD: they are 12 hours or more hours ahead of us

ClaireB: yes but that is just one hour

RobertWB: Im only suggesting 24 hours.

VanceS: and they don't have to be one after another

VanceS: and they could go an extra day or two

VanceS: we're not time bound

VanceS: in fact

RobertWB: Right and if parts of it are asych...then what difference does it make.

VanceS: we just have to set a date for abstracts etc

VanceS: so we can make a program

RobertWB: and let the asian members make some pressentations on thier time schedules.

VanceS: exactly

AidenY: like GLD

RobertWB: That way everyone gets to get involved.

DafneG: August should be the deadline for abstracts, I think

RobertWB: Yes Aiden, like GLD>

VanceS: presenters can propose times and we'll schedule them in

VanceS: I'm thinking to call it a beta conference

RobertWB: I still want to make sure that you saw my comment about the Aussie Learning Times...

VanceS: a dress rehearsal for the real thing next year

VanceS: keep the pressure off, learn how to do it

VanceS: record the steps

BeeD: are you going to invite other presenters?

DafneG: Webheads in Action Beta Online Beta Conferece?

DennisOl: All good ideas, Vance.

AidenY: what's the real presentation next year?

DafneG: only one Beta

BeeD: WABOBC

DavidWe: Wow!

BeeD: sounds bizarre

DafneG: he he

DavidWe smiles

RobertWB: Wow, its named after me.

DafneG: WiABC

RobertWB: waBOBc

DavidWe gets it

DavidWe: You're right, Bob!

RitaZ joined the room.

ClaireB: hi rita

RobertWB: Hi Rita.

ClaireB hugs rita

DavidWe wonders if he can pose a technology audio/video question

BeeD hugs Rita in Spanish

VanceS: it's all real, just don't wnt to get people up tight

DavidWe waves to Rita

JuanaAB joined the room.

RitaZ hugs all friends!

VanceS: it will be great

DavidWe: Hola, Rita. Que tal?

DafneG: WiABCO

VanceS: Hi Juanita

DavidWe waves to Juanita

DafneG hugs Rita

JuanaAB: I am back

RitaZ: hola, Dave! bien, y tu?

BeeD: OCWiA

DennisOl: Hi again, Juani!

DafneG: wb, Juani

ClaireB: hi juanita

VanceS: I like WiABCO

DavidWe: bien, gracias

DavidWe wonders if he can pose a technology audio/video question

VanceS: ability or permission?

RobertWB: Pose.

JuanaAB: Hola..que se cuenta?

DafneG: Rita gave a wonderful presentation for my architecture students on thursday

DavidWe: What's the best way to stream audio/vidoe from a conference out to anyone who wants to see what's going at a conference in Philadelphia

DavidWe: Cool, Daf.

DafneG: about the Parana Bridge in Rosario, Argentina

DavidWe: bagel, coffee, Rita?

RitaZ: Daf is such a good leader....;-))

DavidWe is having a 2nd breakfast

VanceS: Eric Baber, who has been engaged as a consultant for our conference, has streamed his own conferences before

VanceS: you have to hve a streaming server first of all

DafneG: brb, will give my dad a hug

RitaZ: yes, DAve, please, a donut?

VanceS: for example Windows Media server

DavidWe: donuts?

VanceS: that's what costs money

DavidWe: Okay, I'll have to go and get them

JeffLe: Use Shoutcast is 'essentially' free and widely accessible

AidenY: WiABeta Online Conference

RobertWB: But you can podcast it, virtually for free.

AidenY: get what, Dave?

VanceS: the encoder which presenters need to run in order to generate the remote streams is free

RitaZ: uhhh, i can do with a virtual bagel...;-) thanks

VanceS: and the player for all to receive the streams is free

DavidWe: I don't need this to be high quality, just so people who can't be in Philadelphia can mostly hear (and maybe see) what's going on...

VanceS: the server is where the money is

BeeD: and what is this encoder?

DavidWe: Then they can ask questions in chat or TappedIn

DavidWe: donuts, Aiden, for Rita

AidenY: like what Vance did in TESOL?

RobertWB: and there is a VOIP device that can handle up to 56 people on a aVOIP call...and record it at the same time.

DavidWe . o O ( for some reason she would like a donut )

JeffLe: Worldbridges would be glad to make its server available.

VanceS: excellent

DavidWe: Quicktime Broadcaster is available on Macs to send video, I believe

AidenY takes a donut (the one with lots of filling)

RitaZ . o O ( lol )

VanceS: there are so many resources in Webheads

DavidWe: Alternatively, I was going to see about using Alado

RobertWB: IceCast is Opensource.

JuanaAB: That sounds interesting.

DavidWe listens

RobertWB: I have some question about sending video.\

AidenY: haven't heard of Icecast\

JuanaAB: I remember we experience Alado once

VanceS: I'm reading about donusts and servers here

DavidWe: So, just using a web cam or two and having the remote people "talk" back to us in chat or TI

RobertWB: Seems to me, that not many will be able to see the video.

DavidWe needs to SERVE the doughnuts to the high-tech crowd here

RobertWB: and that is very bandwidth expensive.

RitaZ: lol, dave

VanceS: the encoder is a free download from MS that allows anyone to stream audio or video out

ClaireB desperately wants a doughnut

DennisOl: http://www.icecast.org/

VanceS: it works for one or two people in the stream

DavidWe: I'm happy for slow to static images (pictures) but having audio would be good

AidenY: if we use LT, we would be able to see the video

RobertWB: A few random webcams would maybe be more useflu.

VanceS: if yuo want more in your stream that's where yuo need a server

DavidWe hands Claire a coupon for a dozen Dunkin' Donuts

DavidWe nods to Vance

ClaireB: ty david

AidenY: is icecast any good?

DavidWe: Yes, it's just not worth setting up a server for this

DavidWe: I don't expect more than 5-10 "remote" viewers

DavidWe will look at icecast.org

DavidWe: Thanks, Dennis

DavidWe bows to all

DavidWe: Thanks for your input

DennisOl: My pleasure, David.

DavidWe: NECC is happening in Philadelphia starting Monday, 27 June

VanceS: Jeff has been patching in audio and streaming it out through his server past few sundays at around 1400 gmt

DafneG: you can use Alado and have a webcam embeded on a web page, David. That's what Andy does

DavidWe . o O ( National Education Computing Conference == NECC )

RobertWB: Icecast is the open source version of Shoutcast.

DavidWe nods to Daf

DavidWe: Yes, that's what I was thinking

DavidWe: I just learned about Quicktime Broadcaster and need to see what it can do

JeffLe: ...and I'm going to play with streaming video later today.

DavidWe nods

DavidWe: SOunds good

DavidWe: I actually have a friend at the public television radio station in Philadelphia who might be able to help me with server access, at least temporarily

JuanaAB: I haven't been able to use them this year.But in Chile I always use chat and video.

DavidWe nods to Juana

DennisOl: Quicktime Broadcaster: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/

DavidWe: Thanks, Dennis. I know the web site. I have to play with the software and see what it is like to both send and receive

RobertWB: Dennis, do you still have to have a streaming server?

DavidWe has some homework to do

RobertWB: The streaming server is where the cost comes in.

RitaZ will do the same homework and learn sth

VanceS: what i have in mind is letting presenters decide where they want to present

DavidWe nods to Bob

VanceS: for exmaple I may use LT

RobertWB: There are lots of broadcasting systems out there, but someone has to pay for the server.

DennisOl: Bob: I don't know any of the particulars about it. I just thought folks would want to have the website.

DavidWe: Yes. the server software tends to cost money

JuanaAB: the link doesnot open,Dennis

RobertWB: and that is based on the bandwidth used.

DavidWe . o O ( and the server )

DavidWe nods

DavidWe hopes there will be some monetary contributions to the bagel and coffee fund

RitaZ: and donuts!

DavidWe . o O ( quarters? )

DavidWe . o O ( yes, and donuts )

DafneG: it opened here, juani

Maggi: vrtua.l ones?

DavidWe didn't know that Rita has such a sweettooth

JuanaAB: let me try again

RobertWB: Or you might could sell advertizing for the event sufficient to get funds for the bandwidth.

DavidWe: Real ones work better in NYC parking meters, in my experience

VanceS: anyway, if i choose to b/cast on LT then in the program it will direct people to go there

DavidWe: This is pretty low-key event, Bob, but thanks for that idea

DavidWe: Cool, Vance

DennisOl: Juani: I opened it in three different browsers.

JuanaAB: not here

VanceS: now it might be useful if Jeff is awake if he would channel what I say at LT and webcast it

VanceS: that can be arranged

DavidWe smiles

VanceS: that way people could HEAR me and not have to register with LT

VanceS: but Jeff would have to stay awake 48 hours to accommodate all requests

DavidWe wonders where ALL the donuts went

DavidWe offers to make more coffee for Jeff

ClaireB hands david money to cover the cost of doughnuts

VanceS: so in this beta version we'll just work on an ad hoc basis

JeffLe: Webcasting LT content is very doable and my alarm clock is pretty reliable.

VanceS: and Andy can do some of this as well

DavidWe thanks Claire and goes to refill the platter

RitaZ . o O ( loves Dunkin donuts with cream! )

BeeD is brewing some strong Brazilian coffee

DavidWe will save more of those Dunkin' donut coupons

JeffLe: I could hook up with some remote partners elsewhere on the globe to activate the stream

DavidWe: Oh, man! Brazilian coffee

DafneG: What time will the event start, Vance?

VanceS: Incidentally, Global Learn Day IX October 9, 2005 http://bfranklin.edu/gld9/

VanceS: the event will start whenever the first presenter is ready

VanceS: Nov 18 / 19 means maybe Nov 17 in some parts of the world

VanceS: I don't feel too time-bound

VanceS: just giving dates for point of reference

VanceS: meaning about that time

VanceS: I'll write up a CFP and send it to the webheads outlets

RobertWB: So this time of day would be three fourths of the way through the whole thing.

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DavidWe: Have any of you had real Turkish coffee - with the finely ground coffee "Mud" at the bottom of the cup?

ClaireB: oh yes

RitaZ: terribly strong!

JuanaAB: Yes,me,too.

DavidWe: I have a Turkish coffee pot, but I've never used it

JuanaAB: too strong for me

DavidWe: My friend who studies Ottoman history (and teaches in Tel Aviv, Israel) bought it for me at the bazaar in Istanbul

VanceS: coffee is just the thing yuo need

VanceS: to brainstorm a conference theme

DavidWe smiles

LeeB left the room (signed off).

VanceS: Bee keeps reminding us

VanceS: we'll need a thems

VanceS: theme

BeeD: yes

VanceS bows to bee

BeeD: ABC

DavidWe . o O ( easy as 1,2,3 )

RobertWB: BeeD what about an element that precedes the get together via blogging or maybe something in that ELgg space you spoke of.

BeeD: ABC easy as 1,2,3?

DavidWe . o O ( Jackson 5 song )

RobertWB: Something asynchronous.

BeeD: we could blog about the preparations

VanceS: what works and what's beta in online collaborative education

RobertWB: or pick subjects that will be presented at the conference.

BeeD: reflections on a conference

RobertWB: sort of pre conference preparation.

AidenY: I think i've been absent for a long time, I don't even what ABC is.

VanceS: for a CfP to be written now, I'm thinking what to tell people this will be about

AidenY: I think i've been absent for a long time, I don't even what ABC is.

DafneG: lol

AidenY: even know...

VanceS . o O ( aiden can say that again )

RitaZ: lol

BeeD: hehehe

AidenY: see, my stuttering is coming bbbbaack

RobertWB: Bridges.

VanceS: which of Aiden's kids is this really?

RobertWB: Bridges accross continents.

AidenY: lol

RobertWB: Bridges across time.

VanceS: not bad bob, worldbridges even

VanceS: bridges in cyberspace

RobertWB: Oh , World bridges is already taken isnt it Lee.

RobertWB: Jeff....not lee.

DafneG: lol

VanceS: I was just doing word associations

RobertWB: Maybe he would let us borrow it.

DavidWe . o O ( Bridges of Madison County? )

BeeD: lol

RobertWB: World bridges would be good.

AidenY: lol

JeffLe: Speaking of Worldbridges, just wanted to Dave has just gone online with this week's EdTech Talk at http://worldbridges.com/livewire/

DavidWe looks

JeffLe: All are welcome... to tune in, skype in, and bring bagels...and donuts

RobertWB: When is it.

RitaZ: thanks, Jeff!

DavidWe: Shall I register, Jeff?

VanceS: now I take it

JaneAP joined the room.

DavidWe waves to Jane

DavidWe: Hi, Jane. Welcome

BeeD hugs Jane in Canada

JaneAP: Hi There! I'm in Denver Colorado right now!

DafneG: Webheads Bridging the gap: F2F-Online

JaneAP: Visiting my cousin

AidenY: hi Jane

DavidWe waves to Jane's cousin

VanceS: you just tune it

VanceS: tune in

VanceS: hi Jane / cousin

JaneAP: What's the discussion this morning?

DavidWe: well, food, coffee and other things...

DavidWe: some educational topics, too

JaneAP: The coffee is delicious...thank you! I needed it

ChristinLo joined the room.

DavidWe waves to Christine

JeffLe: Starting off with a discussion of using 'clickers' in class

DafneG: we are talking about a Webheads Online conference, Jane

ChristinLo waves

RobertWB: I am listening as we speak.

VanceS: the use of clickers in classrooms

ClaireB: must go catch a plance -- bye to all until next week!

JeffLe: Then a discussion of moodle and using other Discussion forums in classes

ClaireB: plane

DavidWe waves bye to Claire

DavidWe: Ciao

RitaZ: bye, Clari!

DafneG: bye, Claire take care

RobertWB: Could you explain clickers again.

DennisOl: Tchau, Claire.

VanceS: what is a clicker? one of those frog things?

ClaireB left the room (signed off).

DavidWe grins

BeeD: clickers?

RobertWB: Like voting devices....polls.

JaneAP: How do clickers work...I don't understand what they are

VanceS: like, do you understand ?? click clickclick click .. (silence) click click

DennisOl: I've used them, Bob. What are they actually called?

DafneG: I am listening too

RitaZ: and me..., no idea

AidenY: CyberBridges

BeeD: scissors

RobertWB: I wish there were a way to text in a question.

BeeD: grasshoppers

BeeD: click

RobertWB: Cyberbridges sounds good.

JaneAP: Do you mean students who are multi-tasking while we're teaching

DennisOl: Look at this: http://gadgets.engadget.com/entry/1234000847043471/

BeeD: Webridges

ArnoldK joined the room.

RitaZ: im quoting : wireless remotes that feed data to a computer

JaneAP: Thanks for the link, Dennis.

BeeD: Webhead bridge across cyberspace

DennisOl: My pleasure, Jane.

JuanaAB: none of the links open in this computer,I will have to restart

JuanaAB: BRB

JuanaAB left the room (signed off).

JaneAP: Have any of you used clickers?

DennisOl: Yes--to give input in meetings.

VanceS: not me

JaneAP: with students or with faculty?

AidenY: Bridge over troubled waters :-)

RobertWB: What if everyone had a clicker, and the world was all wifi...

DennisOl: This is what the link that I posted says about them: "We’ve seen them take over some TV shows, allowing studio audience members to cast votes or help out contestants. Now “clickers” — wireless remotes that feed data to a computer — are catching on in schools from the Ivy League down to grade schools. In a typical classroom scenario, students can vote on an issue posed by a professor and have the results tabulated in realtime. Fans say the devices lead to more discussion and interactivity in classrooms, but we’re waiting for a hack that will let students electronically stuff the ballot box or even alter the questions on the fly.

AidenY: wwooooowwww

RobertWB: Then you could vote on any issue anytime.

VanceS: let's stage a click-in at the whitehouse

JaneAP: Are they really more efficient than a show of hands?

DennisOl: I've mostly used them in faculty gatherings, but they're very useful with students, too. I haven't used them myself because they have to be checked out at my school.

JaneAP: Does the school buy the clickers?

RobertWB: Nothing could be sicker, than me and my clicker.

BeeD: lol Bob

AidenY: Gotta go, hubby's picking up me in 10 minutes. party time!

DennisOl: Enjoy, Aiden!

RitaZ: liked the rhyme, Bob ;-)

JaneAP: Bye Aiden!

AidenY: can someone upload the transcript somewhere?

RobertWB: Bye Aiden, nice to see you.

VanceS: have fun

BeeD: ciao Aiden

RitaZ: bye, Aiden!

VanceS: volunteers for uploading??

DafneG: bye Aiden, it was nice being with Joy at Alado on Fri :-)

VanceS volunteers

AidenY: you too, guys!  yes, upload and let us know in YG where it's uploaded

RobertWB: Rita, its actually from a song about Jerry Springer by a local gal in Texas, Terri Hendrix.

AidenY: yes, Daf and tere, and Paddy were there during the trial session

RitaZ: thanks, Bob, must listen to it

RobertWB: I can see using clickers in scenario learning.

AidenY: it was fun, you guys were great

DennisOl: Here's a photo showing someone getting ready to use clickers in a presentation:

DennisOl: http://www.ryerson.ca/lt/development/distspeaker/Pychyl_04/pychyl_picture1.htm

BeeD: BTW...I have received a mail about an event here in Brazil...and was wondering whether it would be a good idea to present something about the webheads then...it is in October...need your help and advice

DennisOl: The clickers are lined up on the right-hand side of the table.

DafneG: now they are talking about something I know, Moodle

AidenY: ok, time is clicking away, 5 minutes to dress and put on makeup!

AidenY: bye guys, this time for real

RitaZ: enjoy, Aiden!!

DafneG pushes Aiden away

BeeD: check it out: http://www.expoelt.com/index.htm

DafneG: otherwise she will get one of those looks

AidenY got pushed out

AidenY left the room (signed off).

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DennisOl: This looks really interesting, Bee.

RitaZ hugs BJ

BjB hugs warmly

RobertWB: Look at all the advertizers on that website.

BeeD: It does, doesn't it?

BeeD: But do not know whether I will have the courage to give 1 and a half hour of presentation f2f...lol

BeeD: unless you all help me :-)

RobertWB: Oh Bee, you would do fine.

RitaZ: what can I do for you, Bee?

VanceS: if you call on webheads you will be supported

BeeD: thanks...I was thinking of doing it f2f with an online support

BeeD: do not know whether they will be plugged to the net though

VanceS: ahhh, hmmm

JaneAP: Bee, I don't see a date on the site...when is it?

DavidWe hugs Bj

BeeD: End of October

VanceS: we can all stand by our fax machines

RobertWB: Oct 27-29

BeeD: would be nice advertising for the conference in November

JaneAP: You must be the Queen Bee of ELT in Brazil!

BeeD: no way Jane...

BeeD: This looks like an Argentinian thing Rita...have you heard of it?

JaneAP: Oh no?

RitaZ: why, bee?

BeeD: http://www.expoelt.com/about.htm

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DavidWe waves to Lee

RitaZ: ah, yes, Bee, its a well known group of people here

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BeeD: I got it through Braztesol

JaneAP: Interesting that the headquarters are here in Denver

RitaZ: having a special knack for organizing congresses, I presented in one in Bs As 3 months ago..., big commercial thing

DennisOl: I imagine a Net connection could be arranged through the hotel--but it would probably be expensive.

BeeD listens attentively

JaneAP left the room (signed off).

BeeD: I'd have to ask

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RitaZ: incredibly gifted people for joining other peolpe....;-)

BeeD: These are the rating criteria for the papers: http://www.expoelt.com/call.htm

VanceS: I was listening to the webcast

DafneG: I am listening to it, too

DennisOl: In some local and regional TESOL conferences here in the U.S., for example, any presentations that require special hardware or a Net connection have to be arranged by the presenter.

RobertWB: Its pretty good, but I still miss the text chat on the side.

DafneG: right, Bob

DafneG: it is nice to be able to comment on what the presenter is saying

LeeB: I agree Daf.

VanceS: yes, we're all experimenting

DafneG: I think it happens in most TESOL conferences, Dennis

DennisOl: I also agree.

VanceS: you can skype jeff can't you? and participate that way?

DennisOl: But the difference is that in large conferences, presenters make arrangements through a provider. What I'm talking about is having to make all the arrangements by oneself.

LeeB: What link are you on for the webcast?

RitaZ: need to leave, dear folks...., have a good week you all! (or CU later at Bee's...?)

DennisOl: I'm planning to present in Denver and/or Salt Lake City in the fall, for example, and will need to take laptops and a projector with me. If I want Web access, I'll also have to arrange for it through the conference venue (in Denver, a large hotel).

BeeD: Yes Rita...Graham is on tonight

RitaZ: great, bee, will be there, Bye all!

DennisOl: It sounds fascinating, Bee. I hope to be there as well.

DavidWe: Ciao, Rita

DavidWe waves

DennisOl: Take care, Rita.

BeeD: hmmm...I'll have to check on that one Dennis...because if I there is no connection, it is difficult to talk about the webheads...can always do a PPT and project what has been going on..

DennisOl: Yes, a PPT would work.

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BeeD: with screen shots and all

DennisOl: Yes.

BeeD: but the fun would be to do a workshop and get the people connected with others all over the world

DennisOl: Hear, hear!

DafneG: I did not have connection in my presention at the VenTESOL convention in Maracaibo, last month, it was difficult, but I was lucky enough to have Doris F2F

DafneG: but of course, it was very different from my pres in Sevilla and Ceta where I had WEbheads online

RobertWB: Im gonna have to bail on everyone....phone is ringing and I have things I have to do.

RobertWB: See you all next week.

RobertWB: bye now

DennisOl: I remember, several years ago, doing a number of presentations on websites, but simply showing colored transparencies.

DavidWe waves bye to Bob

DavidWe tips his hat

DennisOl: Take care, Bob.

BeeD: see you later (will you be there tonight Bob?)

BeeD: for Graham's presentation?

RobertWB: Bee that is my plan, but I am sort of at everyones mercy today...they all want a piece of me.

RobertWB: But ill do my best to make it.

VanceS: cya

VanceS: ah blogstreams

RobertWB: Im sure it will be a good session anyway....and if I dont make it, Ill at least read the transcript.

LeeB: Bob, before you go, are you using iNEED? I downloaded it and it looks great. I have not used it yet

VanceS: what time?

RobertWB: INEEN...yes.

LeeB: Oops.

VanceS . o O ( I think it's too late for me ... )

BeeD: 21 GMT

DafneG: what is INEEN?

BeeD: The transcript will be archived

LeeB: It is like Skype but seems to have more features. I will get the link.

BeeD: all the special sessions are

DafneG: I will try to make ti this afternoon, Bee, it is 5 pm for me

DafneG: thanks, Lee

BeeD: ok Daf...I think Graham has done some good work on it

LeeB: http://www.ineen.com/

RobertWB: INEEN is open source SKYPE and closer to ture VOIP>

DafneG: thanks :-)

BeeD: Does anyone know how to record a conversation on Skype or YM?

RobertWB: you can get more people on a call, and it has it's own recording capability.

DafneG: have you tried the new Beta YM?

BeeD: I have it now

RobertWB: Records converstations as an MP3

DafneG: I will check it out, bob and lee

BeeD: INEEN records the conversations Bob?

DennisOl: Thanks, Lee.

RobertWB: My INeen number is 2003331

BeeD writes it down

LeeB: My number is 2014004 if you want to experiement by calling.

BeeD: Thanks Lee

DennisOl: INEEN seems to have LOTS of possibilities.

RobertWB: Got it Lee.

DafneG: I will try it later today. I have too many things open right now

RobertWB: Ill watch for you online..

RobertWB: Im gonna be giving a presentation in Augus on VOIP in Knowplace.ca

DafneG: multitasking as usual

DennisOl: Today's session has been especially informative. I've added lots of bookmarks and have a lot of things to learn about and play with. Thanks, everyone!

RobertWB: I will know much more about it by then.

LeeB: I will also look for you.

RobertWB: In two weeks, I am giving one on Folksonomy and Tagging, Visual Language, Radio and Podcasting.

RobertWB: Intros to....

RobertWB: Weekend of July 4th.

DennisOl: Folksonomy???

DafneG: you are a very busy guy, Bob

RobertWB: as opposed to Taxonomy.

LeeB: I tried to call others not on line through their phones and I could not do it but I think it will be allowing free calling to regular phones soon.

BeeD: Bob is everywhere!

VanceS: I must go people

RobertWB: I have been cloned....

RobertWB: I gotta go too.

DafneG: bye, Vance, see you

LeeB waves bye to Vance

RobertWB: bye all and happy day to all.

VanceS: bye all

BeeD waves bye

LeeB: Bye Bob!

DennisOl: I look forward to hearing more about the conference, Vance. Ma'a salaama!

RobertWB left the room (signed off).

JaneAP: I have to go too...it's been short and sweet. I've been so busy lately, I've sort of lost track of Webheads

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